The unemployment number, as you know, is totally fiction

[BoyNextDoor]

4.7 percent unemployment ? That is the biggest joke there is in this country. The unemployment rate is probably 20 percent, but I will tell you, you have some great economists that will tell you it's a 30, 32.

And the highest I've heard so far is 42 percent. I've seen numbers of 24 percent. I actually saw a number of 42 percent unemployment. Forty-two percent.

 

[trysail]

Everybody knows the government figure is a joke.

I laugh every time I hear some professor or media talking head or bloviating pol cite it.

They have to know people are laughing at them when they do but it doesn't seem to stop them.

There is a newly unemployed former bureau-rat this week. Mustafa Ali, the former "environmental justice leader" (whatever the fuck that is) at the EPA resigned. I wonder where he'll look for work. I suspect there aren't a lot of employers looking for "environmental justice leaders."





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[Bidin~Time]

Some of us have been preaching that for years!

 

[RobDownSouth]

One good thing about Trump in the White House is that we will no longer hear wingnut nation spluttering indignantly "but...but...U6!"

Another good thing is that we will no longer hear Contrifag32 spluttering "can't trust no nigger numbers from the White House!"

 

[Liar]

4.7 percent unemployment ? That is the biggest joke there is in this country. The unemployment rate is probably 20 percent, but I will tell you, you have some great economists that will tell you it's a 30, 32.

And the highest I've heard so far is 42 percent. I've seen numbers of 24 percent. I actually saw a number of 42 percent unemployment. Forty-two percent.

63 percent unemployment.

Now you can say that you've actually seen that number too.

 

[rocket_surgery]

It has always been about how you define unemployed. One way gets you 5%, another way gets you 40% and everything in between.

 

[Hard_Rom]

It has always been about how you define unemployed. One way gets you 5%, another way gets you 40% and everything in between.

Exactly^^^. Kindergarteners and 90 years olds generally are unemployed. Depends on how you define unemployment.

Up here unemployment numbers are not usually contested by any of the parties. If the Liberals say 6% then the other parties agree but just say they could have it down to 5 or was 5 when they were in.

I very much doubt US unemployment is over 10 using the worst of real numbers.

 

[SyKoKo]

4.7 percent unemployment ? That is the biggest joke there is in this country. The unemployment rate is probably 20 percent, but I will tell you, you have some great economists that will tell you it's a 30, 32.

And the highest I've heard so far is 42 percent. I've seen numbers of 24 percent. I actually saw a number of 42 percent unemployment. Forty-two percent.

you are incorrect

its 55% under a D

its 4.7% under Trump

DEAL WITH IT

 

[SyKoKo]

under the regime of teh BLACK MAN the "work" found was in BAR TENDING and MAID SERVICE....look it up

under StrongHorse Trump, mining came back, manufactoring jobs were up....real jobs,

not FAG jobs


FACT

now go slap a WHITE MAN

 

[HisArpy]

Exactly^^^. Kindergarteners and 90 years olds generally are unemployed. Depends on how you define unemployment.

Up here unemployment numbers are not usually contested by any of the parties. If the Liberals say 6% then the other parties agree but just say they could have it down to 5 or was 5 when they were in.

I very much doubt US unemployment is over 10 using the worst of real numbers.

I disagree.

From what I remember, the unemployment figure for 18-55 year old black males is something like 50%. A quick & dirty formula with simple math using just that statistic tells you that a max of 10% unemployment cannot be correct.

330 million in the US.
1/3 are black. (110 mil)
1/6 are black males (1/2 of the black pop or 55 mil).
50% of those are unemployed. (27.5 million).

Math check:

330/3 = 110. 110/2 = 55. 55/2 = 27.5 million unemployed black males.

27.5/330 = 8% ALONE.

You can adjust for other factors (too young/old/disabled) but no matter what you do you still get over 5% just in the black MALES unemployment category. Black FEMALES are also unemployed (I don't know the stat off the top of my head) as well as other minorities and whites.

The number, if calculated correctly, should be somewhere around 15-18% unemployment. Or so said the last article I read on this from a statistician.

<5% is a blatant lie. 5% - 8% is biased and skewed analysis purposefully designed to support a conclusion regardless of the data. 8% - 10% is manipulated data with skeptical results. >10% is merit worthy for discussion depending on data sampling and analysis.

 

[Liar]

Does the unborn count?

 

[HisArpy]

Does the unborn count?

No, chicken eggs aren't included in the analysis.

 

[KingOrfeo]

330 million in the US.
1/3 are black. (110 mil)

No, only 12.2%.

 

[Hard_Rom]

No, only 12.2%.

Correct. 1/3 of Americans are not black. So that drops the figure down to 4%.

 

[RobDownSouth]

I disagree.

From what I remember, the unemployment figure for 18-55 year old black males is something like 50%. A quick & dirty formula with simple math using just that statistic tells you that a max of 10% unemployment cannot be correct.

330 million in the US.
1/3 are black. (110 mil)
1/6 are black males (1/2 of the black pop or 55 mil).
50% of those are unemployed. (27.5 million).

Math check:

330/3 = 110. 110/2 = 55. 55/2 = 27.5 million unemployed black males.

27.5/330 = 8% ALONE.

You can adjust for other factors (too young/old/disabled) but no matter what you do you still get over 5% just in the black MALES unemployment category. Black FEMALES are also unemployed (I don't know the stat off the top of my head) as well as other minorities and whites.

The number, if calculated correctly, should be somewhere around 15-18% unemployment. Or so said the last article I read on this from a statistician.

<5% is a blatant lie. 5% - 8% is biased and skewed analysis purposefully designed to support a conclusion regardless of the data. 8% - 10% is manipulated data with skeptical results. >10% is merit worthy for discussion depending on data sampling and analysis.

^^^ This post is hashtag-class stupid.

The percentage of Black or Mulatto folks in America is 14.4% of the entire U.S. population, according to the United States Census Bureau's 2015 estimates (latest available). That's a far cry from 1/3 of the population that you claim. LINK

That is 46 million people total. For sake of argument let's assume a 50/50 female/male split.

That's 23 million black/mulatto males, nowhere close to your claim of "55 million".

I challenge your claim that "50% of african american males are unemployed". This is true for african american TEENAGERS but not for the African American population as a whole. As a whole, the number of unemployed African American (male and female) is 9.6% according to the bureau of Labor Statistics (which is roughly double the number of unemployed whites).

If you have any documentation as to the number of unemployed African American males that differs from mine, by all means show your work.

 

[contrifan32]

One good thing about Trump in the White House is that we will no longer hear wingnut nation spluttering indignantly "but...but...U6!"

Another good thing is that we will no longer hear Contrifag32 spluttering "can't trust no nigger numbers from the White House!"

Show me where I ever used your racial slur you lying sack of shit.... you heart still pumps sewage.

 

[HisArpy]

^^^ This post is hashtag-class stupid.

The percentage of Black or Mulatto folks in America is 14.4% of the entire U.S. population, according to the United States Census Bureau's 2015 estimates (latest available). That's a far cry from 1/3 of the population that you claim. LINK

That is 46 million people total. For sake of argument let's assume a 50/50 female/male split.

That's 23 million black/mulatto males, nowhere close to your claim of "55 million".

I challenge your claim that "50% of african american males are unemployed". This is true for african american TEENAGERS but not for the African American population as a whole. As a whole, the number of unemployed African American (male and female) is 9.6% according to the bureau of Labor Statistics (which is roughly double the number of unemployed whites).

If you have any documentation as to the number of unemployed African American males that differs from mine, by all means show your work.

You will note I said specifically "From what I remember".

You were spectacular in discovering a way to debunk my figures but you didn't even BOTHER to use the figures you discovered to determine what the real unemployment number is.

So, who is stupid? Me for misremembering the math from a statistician? Or you for being too lazy to do more than throw rocks from the cheap seats?

Moron. You doubt my numbers but YOUR OWN FIGURES prove you're an idiot.

9.6% unemployed blacks "nearly double" the unemployed whites. 9.6 + 4.8 = 14.4% unemployment rates for only blacks and whites. Add in the rest of the unemployed minorities and see where that gets you.

Did I mention you're a MORON!

 

[KingOrfeo]

You were spectacular in discovering a way to debunk my figures but you didn't even BOTHER to use the figures you discovered to determine what the real unemployment number is.

No need, the Bureau of Labor Statistics already did that; 4.7% in February. You'll also see the unemployment rate peaked at 10% in 2009 and has been in steady decline ever since, thank you, Obama.

 

[phrodeau]

I can't wait until all those teenagers get jobs and start filling our orders and building our infrastructure. I'm sure it will mean a big improvement.

 

[HisArpy]

No need, the Bureau of Labor Statistics already did that; 4.7% in February. You'll also see the unemployment rate peaked at 10% in 2009 and has been in steady decline ever since, thank you, Obama.

Sumbuddy needs to jump start their brain into working again.

Didn't we already discuss that the existing statistics aren't being truthful? So, to use those selfsame statistics as a rebuttal is worse than lil Robbie from the South's plan to fail.

 

[Hard_Rom]

No matter were I look unemployment figures look the same. The only place to quote very high numbers are biased sites with a political agenda. You folk have to separate your perceived bias from reality. It is ruining your country and contributing to the US being ranked as a 'flawed' democracy. Conspiracy theories, hatred and mistrust are making the US a laughing stock. Get a grip!

http://countryeconomy.com/unemployment/usa
2016 2015
Unemployment Rate 4.7% 5.0%
Male unemployment 4.8% 5.2%
Female unemployment 4.6% 4.8%
Unemployment less than 25 years 10.0% 11.3%
Unemployed male less than 25 years 11.4% 12.1%
Unemployed female less than 25 years 8.4% 10.3%
Unemployed 25 years and over 3.9% 4.0%
Unemployed male 25 years and over 3.9% 4.1%
Unemployed female 25 years and over 3.9% 4.0%

 

[BoyNextDoor]

The 5 percent figure is one of the biggest hoaxes in modern politics.

 

[KingOrfeo]

Didn't we already discuss that the existing statistics aren't being truthful?

Discuss != establish.

 

[HisArpy]

No matter were I look unemployment figures look the same. The only place to quote very high numbers are biased sites with a political agenda. You folk have to separate your perceived bias from reality. It is ruining your country and contributing to the US being ranked as a 'flawed' democracy. Conspiracy theories, hatred and mistrust are making the US a laughing stock. Get a grip!

http://countryeconomy.com/unemployment/usa
2016 2015
Unemployment Rate 4.7% 5.0%
Male unemployment 4.8% 5.2%
Female unemployment 4.6% 4.8%
Unemployment less than 25 years 10.0% 11.3%
Unemployed male less than 25 years 11.4% 12.1%
Unemployed female less than 25 years 8.4% 10.3%
Unemployed 25 years and over 3.9% 4.0%
Unemployed male 25 years and over 3.9% 4.1%
Unemployed female 25 years and over 3.9% 4.0%

And yet, the Bureau of Labor Statistics that Southpawrobbie found says that the numbers for unemployed blacks are higher than what you quoted.

Imagine that...

 

[Hard_Rom]

You idiots should just pray to God for the real numbers. About the only source you all agree on.

Statistics lie, science lies! Fucking morons!