The UN Disabilities Act and failure of Senate Republicans

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I think this article sums it up best.

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preparation for the alien landing. Sound familiar? Save for the alien landing part (for now, at least), that rhetoric sounds an awful lot like the hogwash offered up by many on the far right and, sadly, by those who on Tuesday led the Republican effort in the Senate to vote down the United Nations Convention on the Rights of Persons With Disabilities.

All but eight Senate Republicans voted to defeat a treaty inspired by and modeled on the Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA), the landmark disabilities rights law passed in 1990. With cries of the treaty’s threat to American sovereignty, I’m curious whether these same Senators and other treaty opponents thought The X-Files was a documentary film rather than a dramatic exploration of our fear of the irrational and unfamiliar.

The U.N.’s Convention on the Rights of Persons With Disabilities was first signed by former President George W. Bush (the ADA was signed by his father), and later by President Obama. Its biggest booster – former senator and Republican presidential nominee Bob Dole, now a frail 89 who was recently released from Walter Reed – was wheeled onto the floor of the Senate by his wife, Elizabeth, in a show of support just before voting began.

It didn’t help.

The treaty failed to garner the necessary two-thirds majority and went down on a vote of 61-38, with Republicans accounting for all the “No” votes.

What in the name of Fox Mulder happened here? Does this treaty really threaten our sovereignty? And are space aliens involved?

Despite fulmination by some on the far right, the United Nations Convention on the Rights of Persons With Disabilities is a treaty designed “to promote, protect and ensure the full and equal enjoyment of all human rights and fundamental freedoms by all persons with disabilities, and to promote respect for their inherent dignity.” Take a few minutes to read the treaty. It rests on principles of human dignity and decency, calling upon the best of who we are as human beings to protect the vulnerable among us.

The United States, which has the strongest disabilities rights protections in the world as a result of the Americans with Disabilities Act, could have shown its leadership by ratifying the treaty and helping to encourage other nations to commit to the same basic protections by including things like sidewalk ramps and wheelchair-accessible bathrooms.

Instead, the treaty's opponents, led by Sen. Mike Lee (R., Utah), stoked irrational fear of so-called foreign bodies deciding what is best for American families. Lee and others preyed particularly on the concerns of parents who homeschool their disabled children. “The Senate rightfully rejected a treaty that could threaten the rights of parents to determine the best education, treatment, and care for their disabled children,” Lee said in a statement released on Tuesday.

This is nonsense.

Early in the day, Sen. John Kerry (D., Mass.) quashed such fear-mongering, explaining on the floor of the Senate that the treaty “has no recourse in American courts and no effect on American law.” “It really isn't controversial,” Kerry added. “What this treaty says is very simple. It just says that you can't discriminate against the disabled. It says that other countries have to do what we did 22 years ago when we set the example for the world and passed the Americans With Disabilities Act.”

The official statement from White House Press Secretary Jay Carney offered a disappointed, but hopeful look at the Senate’s failure, commending “former Senator Dole and the bipartisan coalition of Senators who worked to secure the treaty resolution’s passage, including Senators Reid, Kerry, Lugar and McCain. We hope the Senate will reconsider this treaty soon in the next Congress. As President Obama declared in a written statement read in tribute to Senator Dole just before the vote, “disability rights should not stop at our nation's shores.”

No, it shouldn’t.

The truth is out there. Somewhere. But not Tuesday in the United States Senate.
 
As John Stewart said, "apparently republicans hate the UN more than they care about helping people in wheelchairs."

What a disgrace.
 
As John Stewart said, "apparently republicans hate the UN more than they care about helping people in wheelchairs."

What a disgrace.

Treaties are symbolic and have no force of law with respect to the States and individuals so I don't really care one way or another ... but how would the Senate consenting to the treaty help people in wheelchairs?
 
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FUCK the U fucking N!:mad:


And you're profoundly misunderstanding like the rest of your ilk. This wasn't a treaty to get the US to sign onto something new. It was a treaty that would have gotten other nations to be more like us. The US would have had to do NOTHING new to comply with the treaty since we've exceeded its requirements for the past 22+ years. There would have been ZERO cost to America here in any way, shape, or form.

Republicans are stupid, paranoid, failed leaders unfit to lead America in modern times.
 
And you're profoundly misunderstanding like the rest of your ilk. This wasn't a treaty to get the US to sign onto something new. It was a treaty that would have gotten other nations to be more like us. The US would have had to do NOTHING new to comply with the treaty since we've exceeded its requirements for the past 22+ years. There would have been ZERO cost to America here in any way, shape, or form.

Republicans are stupid, paranoid, failed leaders unfit to lead America in modern times.

No, TURDSNIFFER


I got it.....I UNDERSTAND IT


I am OPPOSED to ANYTHING that that WAR CRIMINAL John FAG Kerry wants and am against ANYTHING that THE UN says and does
 
And you're profoundly misunderstanding like the rest of your ilk. This wasn't a treaty to get the US to sign onto something new. It was a treaty that would have gotten other nations to be more like us. The US would have had to do NOTHING new to comply with the treaty since we've exceeded its requirements for the past 22+ years. There would have been ZERO cost to America here in any way, shape, or form.

Republicans are stupid, paranoid, failed leaders unfit to lead America in modern times.

If it didn't concern us, why waste the time on it? Does the Senate have nothing better to do than waste time on fluff issues?
 
kl

As A professor with a disability. I am annoyed. But I have spent a lifetime dealing with helpful experts who want to control my life
 
Treaties are symbolic and have no force of law with respect to the States and individuals so I don't really care one way or another ... but how would the Senate consenting to the treaty help people in wheelchairs?

Article VI, paragraph 2 of the United States Constitution says otherwise.

Having said that, no nation can impose its own interpretation of the treaty upon any other nation in that treaty without mutual consent.
 
Article VI, paragraph 2 of the United States Constitution says otherwise.

Having said that, no nation can impose its own interpretation of the treaty upon any other nation in that treaty without mutual consent.

No, the 'supreme law of the land' as relating to treaties applies to actions taken by the Federal government. Supreme Court decisions have consistently held that treaties have no effect on state law or individuals, absent enabling legislation that has been passed through the normal legislative process.
 
You just said it didn't have an impact on the US. :rolleyes:

I meant that the US wouldn't have to do anything to implement the standards in the treaty since our own laws exceed them. Therefore there's no cost to us, no down side at all. It's just like if there was a UN treaty to ban race discrimination in the workplace, there would be no legal or practical impact on America.
 
:rolleyes:
I meant that the US wouldn't have to do anything to implement the standards in the treaty since our own laws exceed them. Therefore there's no cost to us, no down side at all. It's just like if there was a UN treaty to ban race discrimination in the workplace, there would be no legal or practical impact on America.
 
Republican hate crippled children because it reminds them of their recent Presidential campaigns.
 
Its more of the same and to be expected. The fruitcakes that still blather on about the nefarious intentions of the U.N. are the same crowd that swears Sharia law is seeping into America.

When they speak, they mainly come off as assholes-pricks of the first order.

So i take it with a grain of salt and stick with the non asshole crowd.:cool:
 
The people of Wheelchairzania, Gimpistan and the Amputeean Islands are up in arms about this.
 
You just said it didn't have an impact on the US. :rolleyes:

The US would have had to implement no changes to be covered under it, however it would have made us look good in the international community.

Basically, free PR.

What is the downside?
 
I think this article sums it up best.

~~~~~~~~

preparation for the alien landing. Sound familiar? Save for the alien landing part (for now, at least), that rhetoric sounds an awful lot like the hogwash offered up by many on the far right and, sadly, by those who on Tuesday led the Republican effort in the Senate to vote down the United Nations Convention on the Rights of Persons With Disabilities.

All but eight Senate Republicans voted to defeat a treaty inspired by and modeled on the Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA), the landmark disabilities rights law passed in 1990. With cries of the treaty’s threat to American sovereignty, I’m curious whether these same Senators and other treaty opponents thought The X-Files was a documentary film rather than a dramatic exploration of our fear of the irrational and unfamiliar.

The U.N.’s Convention on the Rights of Persons With Disabilities was first signed by former President George W. Bush (the ADA was signed by his father), and later by President Obama. Its biggest booster – former senator and Republican presidential nominee Bob Dole, now a frail 89 who was recently released from Walter Reed – was wheeled onto the floor of the Senate by his wife, Elizabeth, in a show of support just before voting began.

It didn’t help.

The treaty failed to garner the necessary two-thirds majority and went down on a vote of 61-38, with Republicans accounting for all the “No” votes.

What in the name of Fox Mulder happened here? Does this treaty really threaten our sovereignty? And are space aliens involved?

Despite fulmination by some on the far right, the United Nations Convention on the Rights of Persons With Disabilities is a treaty designed “to promote, protect and ensure the full and equal enjoyment of all human rights and fundamental freedoms by all persons with disabilities, and to promote respect for their inherent dignity.” Take a few minutes to read the treaty. It rests on principles of human dignity and decency, calling upon the best of who we are as human beings to protect the vulnerable among us.

The United States, which has the strongest disabilities rights protections in the world as a result of the Americans with Disabilities Act, could have shown its leadership by ratifying the treaty and helping to encourage other nations to commit to the same basic protections by including things like sidewalk ramps and wheelchair-accessible bathrooms.

Instead, the treaty's opponents, led by Sen. Mike Lee (R., Utah), stoked irrational fear of so-called foreign bodies deciding what is best for American families. Lee and others preyed particularly on the concerns of parents who homeschool their disabled children. “The Senate rightfully rejected a treaty that could threaten the rights of parents to determine the best education, treatment, and care for their disabled children,” Lee said in a statement released on Tuesday.

This is nonsense.

Early in the day, Sen. John Kerry (D., Mass.) quashed such fear-mongering, explaining on the floor of the Senate that the treaty “has no recourse in American courts and no effect on American law.” “It really isn't controversial,” Kerry added. “What this treaty says is very simple. It just says that you can't discriminate against the disabled. It says that other countries have to do what we did 22 years ago when we set the example for the world and passed the Americans With Disabilities Act.”

The official statement from White House Press Secretary Jay Carney offered a disappointed, but hopeful look at the Senate’s failure, commending “former Senator Dole and the bipartisan coalition of Senators who worked to secure the treaty resolution’s passage, including Senators Reid, Kerry, Lugar and McCain. We hope the Senate will reconsider this treaty soon in the next Congress. As President Obama declared in a written statement read in tribute to Senator Dole just before the vote, “disability rights should not stop at our nation's shores.”

No, it shouldn’t.

The truth is out there. Somewhere. But not Tuesday in the United States Senate.

So you are crying about a dog and pony show. :rolleyes:
 
The US would have had to implement no changes to be covered under it, however it would have made us look good in the international community.

Basically, free PR.

What is the downside?
It comes from the opposition to the ADA, and those who dream that it might be repealed. It's another layer of regulation to get past.

Seriously, there are people who gripe about how low the elevator buttons are these days.
 
So you are crying about a dog and pony show. :rolleyes:



I thought Santorum summed it up best. The law would prevent parents of disabled kids from being homeschooled in the way the parents wanted. This is the guy who took his dead baby home so all his other kids could kiss it goodhye.
 
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