The True Cost of California's Minimum Wage Hikes

[BotanyBoy]

So you're a corporatist and billionaires boot licker.

Gotcha.

How??

Because you can't come up with any justification as to why they should be heavily punished and lose their rights because they were successful other than because you can?

 

[BotanyBoy]

You sound silly.

How?

Deciding to pay a CEO 1.000 an hour instead of 3.000 in your book means stealing from them

The only people who decide what a CEO's pay is the consumer, board members and or share holders.

If the company does well and pays the CEO 3 dollars instead of 1 that's the CEO's 3 bucks....he or she fucking earned it did they not?

But continuing to oay blue collar workers the miserable sallary of 10 an hour instead of 15 is ok. Cuz they aren't valuable

Exactly.

 

[hashtag46]

Quote: But continuing to oay blue collar workers the miserable sallary of 10 an hour instead of 15 is ok. Cuz they aren't valuable

Exactly.

I have a better solution:
Let's just euthanize them, because the planet is overpopulated and they're increasing the CO2 emission.

 

[hashtag46]

Your ideology of meritocracy is flawed.

A company shouldn't be allowed to make billions of dollars in profit every year, if it's at the expense of the citizens.
There's no evidence that their wealth led to a trickle down effect -on the contrary- . It just filled their pockets.

 

[BotanyBoy]

I have a better solution:
Let's just euthanize them, because the planet is overpopulated and they're increasing the CO2 emission.

Or you could just tax everyone a equally for justified reasons and budget accordingly instead of taxing out of hatred and envy.

Your ideology of meritocracy is flawed.

How so?

 

[BotanyBoy]

Your ideology of meritocracy is flawed.

A company shouldn't be allowed to make billions of dollars in profit every year, if it's at the expense of the citizens.

As long as the citizens voluntarily gave them their money, why not?

There's no evidence that their wealth led to a trickle down effect -on the contrary- . It just filled their pockets.

So what?

Company X made a good product and marketed it and sold 500 million units a year and everyone loves it.

Why shouldn't they get to make billions a year?


Can you justify arbitrarily limiting peoples income or not?

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

The idiocy of that is self-evident. A dollar never collected by goverment is just as availible to be "multiplied" as one run through the bureaucratic inefficiency is of the government's coffers.

Also...as I pointed out in the lumber thread why is it that this is not a problem at all for businesses but the possibility of raising the cost of building a house by 1.5 to 2 percent is catastrophic.

This particular post shows how this harms business owners which of course those voting for the minimum wage hike have little to no sympathy for. Those that this hike is supposed to help will ultimately be the victims as well.

There will be less employment overall as a result. This is just common sense. Businesses they were operating on marginal profit margins will close. Business plans and that are no longer viable with higher costs will not be implemented. Obviously some jobs will be automated, and if not automated...outsourced to other states or countries where feasible.

Less available jobs will mean more need for public support which will of course require more taxes.

At some point products and services that cannot be outsourced or automated will have to receive across the board price increases. Phil's incremental price increases tend to accumulate in the same way that they argue about the multiplier effect of government spending as prices increase prices across the community.

Now that her nurse on the lower end of the spectrum are now being artificially i flated, you have more dollars for them to compete for bottom tier, class c housing will result in increased rents. Which will lead to Californians demanding rent control which will lead to blight and destruction as landlords refuse to upgrade housing.

Don't worry, the Democrats have already tipped their hand...



They plan to impose an income tax on the robots that they plan on replacing the people, so, you know, they can spend their days of leisure engaged in poetry slams...

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Your ideology of meritocracy is flawed.

A company shouldn't be allowed to make billions of dollars in profit every year, if it's at the expense of the citizens.
There's no evidence that their wealth led to a trickle down effect -on the contrary- . It just filled their pockets.

A company that is making billions of dollars a year in profits is rewarding its shareholders who are people, who are citizens and who are benefitting by not having to earn their living via the mechanism of sweat equity as we all had to do in pre-modern agrarian societies...

 

[Ishmael]

A company that is making billions of dollars a year in profits is rewarding its shareholders who are people, who are citizens and who are benefitting by not having to earn their living via the mechanism of sweat equity as we all had to do in pre-modern agrarian societies...

Add to that the fact that no one is forced to do business with those companies. Those companies are obviously providing a superior product or service at a competitive cost to the consumer.

Ishmael

 

[Tristyn]

A company that is making billions of dollars a year in profits is rewarding its shareholders who are people, who are citizens and who are benefitting by not having to earn their living via the mechanism of sweat equity as we all had to do in pre-modern agrarian societies...

A company using roads & bridges it didn't build.

A company using a workforce it didn't educate.

A company using public utilities it didn't generate.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Add to that the fact that no one is forced to do business with those companies. Those companies are obviously providing a superior product or service at a competitive cost to the consumer.

Ishmael

A company using roads & bridges it didn't build.

A company using a workforce it didn't educate.

A company using public utilities it didn't generate.

Perfect example.

Yes, it did build that. Yes it did educate that. Yes it did create energy.

Entrepreneurial activity always precedes government. When there were no highways, there were things called rivers and oceans. Government can only come into existence when the real builders make it possible for it to establish a foothold.

 

[water505]

A company using roads & bridges it didn't build.

A company using a workforce it didn't educate.

A company using public utilities it didn't generate.

What's that supposed to mean?

The government inherently has no wealth nor does it create wealth. They collect money from taxpayers who pay for all of the above.

 

[water505]

A company using roads & bridges it didn't build.

A company using a workforce it didn't educate.

A company using public utilities it didn't generate.

Perfect example.

Yes, it did build that. Yes it did educate that. Yes it did create energy.

Entrepreneurial activity always precedes government. When there were no highways, there were things called rivers and oceans. Government can only come into existence when the real builders make it possible for it to establish a foothold.

Obviously an Obama worshipper. They love mindless platitudes.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Obviously an Obama worshipper. They love mindless platitudes.

Are you sure it's not Lizzy???

 

[water505]

They're parrots who regurgitate mindless bullshit.

 

[Tristyn]

Obviously an Obama worshipper. They love mindless platitudes.

Are you sure it's not Lizzy???

I'm preparing for 2020.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

I'm preparing for 2020.

I TOLD YOU IT WAS LIZZY!!!





Is that how you spell Lavy???

 

[water505]

I'm preparing for 2020.

That's nice. All you need to do is convince tens of millions of voters to support a lying, out of touch socialist moron, and she'll be a shoo-in.

Best of luck.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

That's nice. All you need to do is convince tens of millions of voters to support a lying, out of touch socialist moron, and she'll be a shoo-in.

Best of luck.

It worked in 2016!!!

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[Disgustipated]

They're parrots who regurgitate mindless bullshit.

You believed a fake Onion article because it fit your narrative. Your BFF can't formulate an original thought and C&P's his "facts" from a right wing blog.

Do you really want to go there, miles?

BTW - does AJ still believe miles and vettebigot aren't back? Who the fuck else would talk to his dumbass?

 

[water505]

It worked in 2016!!!

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Not really!

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Not really!

Worked for me...

 

[Rightguide]

A company using roads & bridges it didn't build.

A company using a workforce it didn't educate.

A company using public utilities it didn't generate.

So the company didn't pay taxes that supported the construction of those roads and bridges, didn't pay property taxes that support local schools, or pay taxes and utility fees to turn the lights on in their businesses? What exactly is it that strips them of the collective right to use those aspects of public infrastructure?

 

[Tristyn]

So the company didn't pay taxes that supported the construction of those roads and bridges, didn't pay property taxes that support local schools, or pay taxes and utility fees to turn the lights on in their businesses? What exactly is it that strips them of the collective right to use those aspects of public infrastructure?

A good corporate neighbor is always willing to work as a team with the local community/local government to ensure the shared relationship is a winning and productive one.

 

[Rightguide]

A good corporate neighbor is always willing to work as a team with the local community/local government to ensure the shared relationship is a winning and productive one.

At least as long as their relationship can exist in a non-hostile business environment.