The True Cost of California's Minimum Wage Hikes

[4est_4est_Gump]

The same people are going to cry havoc and let slip the dogs of war because the "mom and pop" retailers are going out of business....

Because, the 1% is cashing in...

 

[Ishmael]

The same people are going to cry havoc and let slip the dogs of war because the "mom and pop" retailers are going out of business....

Exactly. The bleeding heart, economic shit for brains, are putting into place policies that make it damn near impossible for small businesses to get off the ground and then bitch about the soaring profits at the Walmart's etc.

I'd love to be able to bring in a high school or 1st/2nd year college kid and teach them the biz. from the ground up. That isn't going to happen in this environment.

Ishmael

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

I know.


You make that which you rely upon the true enemy of government. It boggles the mind...

 

[Ishmael]

I know.


You make that which you rely upon the true enemy of government. It boggles the mind...

Quite frankly one of my options is to have the pieces parts fabricated in Juarez. I can drive down once a month and meet the fabricator on the El Paso side of the border, hand them the cash, load the shit on my trailer and be down the road.

Ishmael

 

[Rightguide]

It's not just a Minimum Wage rampage. There is a full scale economic war being waged aginst the private sector on behalf of the public employee pension plans as well. Despite a doubling of state tax collection in the last nine years, Governor Brown is proposing a dangerous 42 percent increase in gasoline taxes and a 141 percent increase in vehicle registration fees, These are designed to cover escalating pension contributions which are about 11 billion a year now, twice what they were 8 years ago when he took office. This pension plan is the World's largest and currently burdened by unfunded liabilities approaching one trillion dollars. It even includes a $100 registration fee to hammer citizens who buy electric cars, because they had the temerity to improve the environment by not using gasoline.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Quite frankly one of my options is to have the pieces parts fabricated in Juarez. I can drive down once a month and meet the fabricator on the El Paso side of the border, hand them the cash, load the shit on my trailer and be down the road.

Ishmael

A lighter shade of NAFTA...

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

It's not just a Minimum Wage rampage. There is a full scale economic war being waged aginst the private sector on behalf of the public employee pension plans as well. Despite a doubling of state tax collection in the last nine years, Governor Brown is proposing a dangerous 42 percent increase in gasoline taxes and a 141 percent increase in vehicle registration fees, These are designed to cover pension contributions which are about 11 billion a year now, twice what they were 8 years ago when he took office. This pension plan is the World's largest and currently burdened by unfunded liabilities approaching one trillion dollars. It even includes a $100 registration fee to hammer citizens who buy electric cars, because they had the temerity to improve the environment by not using gasoline.

Yes, in that regard, California is the Titanic writ large...

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

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database glitch. RLOCK() seems to be a bit buggy.

 

[RobDownSouth]

I did c&p the whole thing, but the author wants this word to spread, so I feel that I have not violated any of the guidelines here at Lit or any other standard.

Laws, especially laws you don't like such as copyright laws, are considered "advisory in nature" by glibertarians.

"Maximum Rules For Thee, But Not For MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!"
-The Glibertarian Prime Directive

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

stfu dickdownsouth

 

[Ishmael]

A lighter shade of NAFTA...

Pretty much.

Ishmael

 

[Rightguide]

Yes, in that regard, California is the Titanic writ large...

Yes, but the difference is, the crew of this ship, dressed in Mao suits, and despite having radar and knowing where the big iceberg is, is ordering a course correction for a catastrophic head-on collision and ringing up an order for "flank speed" to hurry it up.

 

[RobDownSouth]

stfu dickdownsouth

Always trying to squelch the opinion of people who disagree with you....just like a good Glibertarian!

"Maximum Rules For Thee, But Not For MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!"
-The Glibertarian Prime Directive

It's a darn shame your "atrial fibrillation", recurring pneumonia(s), and chronic obesity prevents you from having us settle this mano-a-mano.
Oh well, send out Conager and his alt army to do your fightin' for ya

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Pretty much.

Ishmael

Yes, but the difference is, the crew of this ship, dressed in Mao suits, and despite having radar and knowing where the big iceberg is, is ordering a course correction for a catastrophic head-on collision and ringing up an order for "flank speed" to speed it up.

No, they are oblivious to even the tip of their destruction.

They, like most monetarists, believe in the magic of spending 'multipliers.' Every dollar the State spends comes back as a dollar-three-sixty-five...

 

[RobDownSouth]

No, they are oblivious to even the tip of their destruction.

Dooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooom!
Glooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooom!

They, like most monetarists, believe in the magic of spending 'multipliers.' Every dollar the State spends comes back as a dollar-three-sixty-five...

Spending multipliers are a proven economic fact, not a belief.

 

[Disgustipated]

The combined amount of knowledge you dingbats have of California could fill a thimble. Stick to racism and hooch, dummies.

 

[Rightguide]

No, they are oblivious to even the tip of their destruction.

They, like most monetarists, believe in the magic of spending 'multipliers.' Every dollar the State spends comes back as a dollar-three-sixty-five...

Actually, they know exactly what they are doing and they don't give two shits of they destroy private sector enterprise in the process. What they forget is that Gray Davis was recalled 12 years ago for trying to raise the vehicle registration fee increase from $46 to $158.

 

[Conager]

No, they are oblivious to even the tip of their destruction.

They, like most monetarists, believe in the magic of spending 'multipliers.' Every dollar the State spends comes back as a dollar-three-sixty-five...

The idiocy of that is self-evident. A dollar never collected by goverment is just as availible to be "multiplied" as one run through the bureaucratic inefficiency is of the government's coffers.

Also...as I pointed out in the lumber thread why is it that this is not a problem at all for businesses but the possibility of raising the cost of building a house by 1.5 to 2 percent is catastrophic.

This particular post shows how this harms business owners which of course those voting for the minimum wage hike have little to no sympathy for. Those that this hike is supposed to help will ultimately be the victims as well.

There will be less employment overall as a result. This is just common sense. Businesses they were operating on marginal profit margins will close. Business plans and that are no longer viable with higher costs will not be implemented. Obviously some jobs will be automated, and if not automated...outsourced to other states or countries where feasible.

Less available jobs will mean more need for public support which will of course require more taxes.

At some point products and services that cannot be outsourced or automated will have to receive across the board price increases. Phil's incremental price increases tend to accumulate in the same way that they argue about the multiplier effect of government spending as prices increase prices across the community.

Now that her nurse on the lower end of the spectrum are now being artificially i flated, you have more dollars for them to compete for bottom tier, class c housing will result in increased rents. Which will lead to Californians demanding rent control which will lead to blight and destruction as landlords refuse to upgrade housing.

 

[Disgustipated]

The combined amount of knowledge you dingbats have of business could fill a thimble. Stick to cucking and alt-making, dummies.

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[Rightguide]

The idiocy of that is self-evident. A dollar never collected by goverment is just as availible to be "multiplied" as one run through the bureaucratic inefficiency is of the government's coffers.

Also...as I pointed out in the lumber thread why is it that this is not a problem at all for businesses but the possibility of raising the cost of building a house by 1.5 to 2 percent is catastrophic.

This particular post shows how this harms business owners which of course those voting for the minimum wage hike have little to no sympathy for. Those that this hike is supposed to help will ultimately be the victims as well.

There will be less employment overall as a result. This is just common sense. Businesses they were operating on marginal profit margins will close. Business plans and that are no longer viable with higher costs will not be implemented. Obviously some jobs will be automated, and if not automated...outsourced to other states or countries where feasible.

Less available jobs will mean more need for public support which will of course require more taxes.

At some point products and services that cannot be outsourced or automated will have to receive across the board price increases. Phil's incremental price increases tend to accumulate in the same way that they argue about the multiplier effect of government spending as prices increase prices across the community.

Now that her nurse on the lower end of the spectrum are now being artificially i flated, you have more dollars for them to compete for bottom tier, class c housing will result in increased rents. Which will lead to Californians demanding rent control which will lead to blight and destruction as landlords refuse to upgrade housing.

As an aside to the added cost of building homes; in California, a full one-third of the cost of a new house is the cost of compliance with the States overly oppressive regulatory scheme for new construction.

 

[Disgustipated]

As an aside to the added cost of building homes; in California, a full one-third of the cost of a new house is the cost of compliance with the States overly oppressive regulatory scheme for new construction.

Tract homes? Custom homes? Mixed-use? How about coastal regulations so the property doesn't fall into the sea?

I really can't wait for the generation of the old & ignorant to leave this earf.

 

[Rightguide]

This is how friggin crazy the Communists (Democrats) in California are. Keeping in mind all of the state's economic nightmares, they bring us this:

California single-payer healthcare bill passes first committee test

A sweeping measure that would establish government-run universal healthcare in California cleared its first legislative hurdle Wednesday as scores of supporters crammed into the Capitol to advocate for a single-payer system.

The Senate Health Committee approved the measure on a 5-2 vote after a nearly three-hour hearing, but Democrats and Republicans alike signaled unease with the major question still unanswered in the legislation: how the program would be paid for.

The bill, SB 562, would establish a publicly run healthcare plan that would cover everyone living in California, including those without legal immigration status. The proposal would drastically reduce the role of insurance companies: The state would pay for all medical expenses, including inpatient, outpatient, emergency services, dental, vision, mental health and nursing home care.

The measure says the program would be funded by "broad-based revenue," but does not specify where that money would come from.

More here:

http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-pol-sac-single-payer-healthcare-20170426-story.html

 

[Conager]

Not sure who Phill or the nurse that voice to text speaks of are. Maybe Fata's Phil is emigrating to the People's Republic of California

 

[Disgustipated]

This is how friggin crazy the Communists (Democrats) in California are. Keeping in mind all of the state's economic nightmares, they bring us this:

California single-payer healthcare bill passes first committee test

A sweeping measure that would establish government-run universal healthcare in California cleared its first legislative hurdle Wednesday as scores of supporters crammed into the Capitol to advocate for a single-payer system.

The Senate Health Committee approved the measure on a 5-2 vote after a nearly three-hour hearing, but Democrats and Republicans alike signaled unease with the major question still unanswered in the legislation: how the program would be paid for.

The bill, SB 562, would establish a publicly run healthcare plan that would cover everyone living in California, including those without legal immigration status. The proposal would drastically reduce the role of insurance companies: The state would pay for all medical expenses, including inpatient, outpatient, emergency services, dental, vision, mental health and nursing home care.

The measure says the program would be funded by "broad-based revenue," but does not specify where that money would come from.

More here:

http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-pol-sac-single-payer-healthcare-20170426-story.html

Great! Now tell us why you lived in the Socialist State of California all your life, dummy.

 

[RobDownSouth]

Great! Now tell us why you lived in the Socialist State of California all your life, dummy.

He is like Lit's KooKooKorean, he wants to enjoy the amenities provided by the state while lamentin' the fact that #ThosePeople also enjoy access as well.