The Obamagood Thread

[RjThoughts]

Yes, because the Politics Board is hidden but someone gave me the password?

Sad, but I do wish you well. Hopefully you will see the light. I just don't understand this thinking but very glad that I don't think like your or the others. My father gave me a sense of pride and purpose. Did you have a father?

Pride and purpose. I've heard that before. A phrase used by those who feel obligated to place themselves higher than their fellow man.

Pride and purpose. Two words put together that used to mean something, when men and women would take satisfaction in doing good during the day, whether it be working hard for the day, making a child smile, teaching someone something. Purpose. Knowing what you were meant to do, not what was expected to do, or what your parent said you had to do, to be.

Pride and purpose. Something you misinterpreted or are purposely misunderstanding to fit the narrative to which you believe we all should listen.

Did I have a father? Yes, but he couldn't give me a small loan of a million dollars.
Did I have a father? Yes, but he wasn't home to coddle me due to the fact he had to work two, three jobs so my siblings and I could move out of public housing.
Did I have a father? Yes, he allowed me to think for myself, to question everyone, everything, to learn from the answers I was given, to those I found for myself.
Did I have a father? Yes, one that allowed me to be myself, to not conform into the norms others expected of me.
Did I have a father? Yes, one that pressed that with hard work and education, I could be whatever I wanted.

So, Alex, tell me, did I fail my father? Did I make him upset, sad?

 

[RjThoughts]

He's not a socialist at all. So if by clueless you mean he hasn't got a clue how to do it you might have a point.

I am a racist. But that doesn't change the fact that Obama's skin is his greatest detriment not anything he did. He is not full of double talk, he barely double talks at all which is again one of his weaknesses. He (like Bush before him) really needs to realize America is filled with 5th graders and speaking to us like we're adults is a poor idea.

I don't have problems in my personal life, nothing out of the ordinary anyway.

I'm leaning towards Alex is someone's alt

 

[AlexVega]

The last couple of postings were disturbing.

I for one do not understand. Guess this is what makes American, American. There are those of us that go out and make it happen. Then there are those that sit around and take what ever is handed to them.

Personally, I want the choice and refuse to accept hand-outs.

 

[RjThoughts]

Is that all you have?
*shakes head*

An Alt.

 

[AlexVega]

Is that all you have?
*shakes head*

An Alt.

Sorry but I just feel sorry for you. Only you don't realize how foolish you are. Guess that is a good thing or maybe you mask the pain in alcohol.

I just see no reason to engage with you. Hopefully when you see someone holding their hand out, you take it to lift yourself up. You can do better.

 

[RjThoughts]

Sorry but I just feel sorry for you. Only you don't realize how foolish you are. Guess that is a good thing or maybe you mask the pain in alcohol.

I just see no reason to engage with you. Hopefully when you see someone holding their hand out, you take it to lift yourself up. You can do better.

You see no reason to engage with me, but you find it necessary to project your pain and your solutions onto me.

Mask the pain in alcohol? If your father had actually given you a sense of pride and purpose, you would have known how injurious that phrase is.

No, you're another Lit wingnut hiding behind an alternative name.

 

[Sean Renaud]

I'm leaning towards Alex is someone's alt

Odds on Jen. She can put together coherent thoughts when pressed.

The last couple of postings were disturbing.

I for one do not understand. Guess this is what makes American, American. There are those of us that go out and make it happen. Then there are those that sit around and take what ever is handed to them.

Personally, I want the choice and refuse to accept hand-outs.

No, there aren't really people who go out and make it happen. That's the myth and one day we'll find the proper way to squash it.

Sorry but I just feel sorry for you. Only you don't realize how foolish you are. Guess that is a good thing or maybe you mask the pain in alcohol.

I just see no reason to engage with you. Hopefully when you see someone holding their hand out, you take it to lift yourself up. You can do better.

So literally wait until someone gives a hand out? Not that I disagree with you I just think you lost your script.

 

[phrodeau]

Odds on Jen. She can put together coherent thoughts when pressed.



No, there aren't really people who go out and make it happen. That's the myth and one day we'll find the proper way to squash it.



So literally wait until someone gives a hand out? Not that I disagree with you I just think you lost your script.

Script? Sounds like complete improv to me.

 

[IrezumiKiss]

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[AlexVega]

You see no reason to engage with me, but you find it necessary to project your pain and your solutions onto me.

Mask the pain in alcohol? If your father had actually given you a sense of pride and purpose, you would have known how injurious that phrase is.

No, you're another Lit wingnut hiding behind an alternative name.

Odds on Jen. She can put together coherent thoughts when pressed.



No, there aren't really people who go out and make it happen. That's the myth and one day we'll find the proper way to squash it.



So literally wait until someone gives a hand out? Not that I disagree with you I just think you lost your script.

I feel really bad for the two of you. Clearly, you two are immature and have some issues. Sad reality is, in ten years you will be in the exact place and desperately seeking out new excuses for your own failure. Emotionally the two of you are still in grade school. Intelligence wise, my guess would be 5th grade.

This is why I will not be engaging with you. There is no value and you resort to childish games. Subconsciously you realize the failures and this is why you tend to act like the playground bullies.

Thank you, but you are not worth my time. I can see why you want a socialist style government as you do need a baby sitter and a sugar mamma

Have a good life

 

[Sean Renaud]

Yep that's Jen. I hope I'm in the same place more or less in ten years. A little richer, a little lazier but overall yeah that's the plan.

 

[RjThoughts]

Yep that's Jen. I hope I'm in the same place more or less in ten years. A little richer, a little lazier but overall yeah that's the plan.

Ignorance is such bliss. I have "her" on ignore.

 

[AlexVega]

Yep that's Jen. I hope I'm in the same place more or less in ten years. A little richer, a little lazier but overall yeah that's the plan.

Ah yes, more proof to being broken. Tell me, if you are doing so well then why do you cry for more entitlements and social program?

Maybe the reality is you are poor and owning a business is a fantasy in your mind?

And now I'm Jen, awesome. Clearly I'm spot on with you and the other ones. It's your lives, thankfully not mine. Enjoy

 

[Sean Renaud]

Ah yes, more proof to being broken. Tell me, if you are doing so well then why do you cry for more entitlements and social program?

Maybe the reality is you are poor and owning a business is a fantasy in your mind?

And now I'm Jen, awesome. Clearly I'm spot on with you and the other ones. It's your lives, thankfully not mine. Enjoy

Because I understand how the world works and more entitlments and more social programs mean more people will have more money to spend at my business.

It's also worth noting that I don't have to train my employees from scratch thanks to entitlements.

But yes you have the attitude and word choice of Jen. Maybe you aren't her but I doubt it.

 

[RjThoughts]

Because I understand how the world works and more entitlments and more social programs mean more people will have more money to spend at my business.

It's also worth noting that I don't have to train my employees from scratch thanks to entitlements.

But yes you have the attitude and word choice of Jen. Maybe you aren't her but I doubt it.

"She" doesn't equate increasing education funding as a social program. Most of the conservatives on Lit think that's just a handout, and believe in their capitalism always hearts public education should be "For Profit."

 

[AlexVega]

"She" doesn't equate increasing education funding as a social program. Most of the conservatives on Lit think that's just a handout, and believe in their capitalism always hearts public education should be "For Profit."

Clearly, if you were educated maybe you could find a better job and stop seeking hand outs.

Education is a must in today's world. However, there is a price for that as nothing in life is free. One should work or take on loans to pay for education. What disturbs me about Obama is that he's attacking the loans and not the real problem, that the education system is out of control and gouging students. The real criminals here are those in education. But I'm sure you will still demand college must be free and toss more tax payer funds at the issue, just like your ignorant stance on Obamacare.

There needs to be competition in Education and Healthcare. Make those enterprises compete for money and "people" and remove all federal funding.

Clearly though, you are one that doesn't understand the value of competition and see it as a threat. Because competition forces you to stand on your toes and give up the sloth way of life.

 

[Sean Renaud]

Clearly, if you were educated maybe you could find a better job and stop seeking hand outs.

Education is a must in today's world. However, there is a price for that as nothing in life is free. One should work or take on loans to pay for education. What disturbs me about Obama is that he's attacking the loans and not the real problem, that the education system is out of control and gouging students. The real criminals here are those in education. But I'm sure you will still demand college must be free and toss more tax payer funds at the issue, just like your ignorant stance on Obamacare.

There needs to be competition in Education and Healthcare. Make those enterprises compete for money and "people" and remove all federal funding.

Clearly though, you are one that doesn't understand the value of competition and see it as a threat. Because competition forces you to stand on your toes and give up the sloth way of life.

Education is a must but this concept that nothing is "free" is ultimately stupid. I mean can you define what precisely defines free? The education system is gauging students, that's what happens when a product is a must have and it's sold for profit. We should expect nothing different. I don't care if college is free or not at this point but yes I will toss more tax payer funds at the issue as it is a good solution. Obamacare's ultimate problem is that it doesn't spend tax payer money properly. We should have gone with Universal Health Care but didn't.

I do see the value of competition but in the real world that requires an active government to knock back winners. That's just the reality of the scenario because if they don't then you simply have winners and the game is over.

 

[AlexVega]

Education is a must but this concept that nothing is "free" is ultimately stupid. I mean can you define what precisely defines free? The education system is gauging students, that's what happens when a product is a must have and it's sold for profit. We should expect nothing different. I don't care if college is free or not at this point but yes I will toss more tax payer funds at the issue as it is a good solution. Obamacare's ultimate problem is that it doesn't spend tax payer money properly. We should have gone with Universal Health Care but didn't.

I do see the value of competition but in the real world that requires an active government to knock back winners. That's just the reality of the scenario because if they don't then you simply have winners and the game is over.

Do you work for free? Maybe the real question should be, do you work? If you did work, would you expect to take home a paycheck? Of course you would, so again, how can anything be 'free'

Again with the excuses. Take responsibility and find something you can take pride in.

You and that other guy spin in circles and end up in the same place. Looking for handouts. Time for you and him to pay your fair share! Give back and stop taking.

 

[Sean Renaud]

I've been known to volunteer from time to time yes but that's not the point. It depends on how exactly you want to define free. IF free is defined as things that I don't pay for there are lots of things that are free. If you mean someone pays well that's how society works.

I take pride in a great many things but you're trying to get off subject here.

I give back plenty. Including having literlaly put my life on the line for the country.

 

[AlexVega]

Sounds like someone has some guilt issues. I'm not the enemy and clearly you are battling some inner demons.

 

[Sean Renaud]

Of course you're the enemy at present. But no inner demons, funny how you keep making that accusation.

 

[AlexVega]

Yes, clearly you are threatened by someone ending your way of life. Didn't realize how emotionally attached you were to entitlements. Why don't you seek out some mental health help for those issues? After all, you don't have to pay for it and maybe it will help improve the quality life for you?

 

[RjThoughts]

I've been known to volunteer from time to time yes but that's not the point. It depends on how exactly you want to define free. IF free is defined as things that I don't pay for there are lots of things that are free. If you mean someone pays well that's how society works.

I take pride in a great many things but you're trying to get off subject here.

I give back plenty. Including having literlaly put my life on the line for the country.

Free college and trade schools, aren't going to be free. Textbooks are still going to be outrageously overpriced. Food will still be overpriced and terrible.

That's what her ilk forget. All the free tuition means is that MORE low economic classified children and adults will be able to go. Student loans at loan shark interest rates is unconscionable: They were so in 1982 when I went to get one from the bank where my father worked as a maintenance man and courier. They refused to give me one, told me it was in my family's best interest.


Oh and Jen, receiving a grant from your grandmother's tribe isn't a hand out, it's their way of being proud that you've both acknowledged your heritage and want to learn.

 

[Sean Renaud]

Free college and trade schools, aren't going to be free. Textbooks are still going to be outrageously overpriced. Food will still be overpriced and terrible.

That's what her ilk forget. All the free tuition means is that MORE low economic classified children and adults will be able to go. Student loans at loan shark interest rates is unconscionable: They were so in 1982 when I went to get one from the bank where my father worked as a maintenance man and courier. They refused to give me one, told me it was in my family's best interest.


Oh and Jen, receiving a grant from your grandmother's tribe isn't a hand out, it's their way of being proud that you've both acknowledged your heritage and want to learn.

It's unlikely I grant you but there is no reason why it can't be. Textbooks have got to be on the way out at this point. But I agree it won't happen for so long it's hardly worth doing more than being curious about how it might function.

I completely agree that the more low economic people we can get educated the better. And your right that is what Republicans ignore.

 

[RjThoughts]

It's unlikely I grant you but there is no reason why it can't be. Textbooks have got to be on the way out at this point. But I agree it won't happen for so long it's hardly worth doing more than being curious about how it might function.

I completely agree that the more low economic people we can get educated the better. And your right that is what Republicans ignore.

The professors in my son's computer programming classes have put the texts online for him and the others to read.

The local welding school has lowered their tuition, have steered students away from loan shark interest student loans, and try to get them paid internships.