The Next Act of Terror Will Be:

[Lancecastor]

As the Sniper thing winds down, the media will start to focus before you know it on "What Else Can Happen?" scenarios.

Be the first on your block to predict and discuss the next likely type of terror attack to take place!

The Rules are Easy!

1.Open to all Registered Lit users;

2. Attack must take place within the continental USA;

3. CNN must initially report at least a Suspected link to OBL/AQ to qualify.

 

[SilvaTungDevil]

I'm voting new and different. Personally, I'm hoping it's a devil worship related accident.

 

[Lancecastor]

I'm voting new and different. Personally, I'm hoping it's a devil worship related accident.

I also voted new and diffeent.

Could be something "Christmessy", so don't count Satan out yet!

 

[SilvaTungDevil]

I also voted new and diffeent.

Could be something "Christmessy", so don't count Satan out yet!

Nice! My actual guess might be school massacre. Been done before but seems about time again.

 

[bored1]

The next act will be....New and Different

 

[Lancecastor]

Nice! My actual guess might be school massacre. Been done before but seems about time again.

Remember, according to The Rules, it needs to be an OBL/AQ thing.

So far they've not hit kids, only symbols of American/Western imperialism (USS Cole, embassies), capitalism (WTC) and social decadence (nightclub).

These sniper dudes are garden variety US "militia" wierdos I'd imagine....regular american psychos are not included in this contest, unless CNN reports it wrongly as OBL/AQ.

 

[SilvaTungDevil]

Remember, according to The Rules, it needs to be an OBL/AQ thing.

So far they've not hit kids, only symbols of American/Western imperialism (USS Cole, embassies), capitalism (WTC) and social decadence (nightclub).

These sniper dudes are garden variety US "militia" wierdos I'd imagine....regular american psychos are not included in this contest, unless CNN reports it wrongly as OBL/AQ.

Wait a minute! You said suspect a link. My guess is that's going to happen no matter what kind of nuttiness happens. For instance: Come on to report gunshots at or around a school, don't know whats happening, could be some act of terrorism. Anyway, I was thinking more along the lines of a bomb at a school, placed by some kid. I think I heard on CNN at one point they suspected a possibility of a link from the snipers to terrorism. Agreed, not quite the same thing. Just funny the inferences they sometimes make.

 

[islandman]

How about Al Queda accidentally blowing up the sniper? Wouldn't that be ironic now!

 

[Lancecastor]

The Rules Committee is back from smarkin a big fattie and says yeah you're right devildude.

And an accidental sniper explosion would be completely within bounds as well Islandman...we suspect there could be Bonus Points for that.

Wait a minute! You said suspect a link. My guess is that's going to happen no matter what kind of nuttiness happens. For instance: Come on to report gunshots at or around a school, don't know whats happening, could be some act of terrorism. Anyway, I was thinking more along the lines of a bomb at a school, placed by some kid. I think I heard on CNN at one point they suspected a possibility of a link from the snipers to terrorism. Agreed, not quite the same thing. Just funny the inferences they sometimes make.

 

[SilvaTungDevil]

The Rules Committee is back from smarkin a big fattie and says yeah you're right devildude.

I'm glad you'd just smarked one 'cause that way you understood my bong influenced, less than cohesive, post.

 

[Lancecastor]

I'm glad you'd just smarked one 'cause that way you understood my bong influenced, less than cohesive, post.

Smarkin!

 

[teddybear4play]

As the Sniper thing winds down, the media will start to focus before you know it on "What Else Can Happen?" scenarios.

Be the first on your block to predict and discuss the next likely type of terror attack to take place!

The Rules are Easy!

1.Open to all Registered Lit users;

2. Attack must take place within the continental USA;

3. CNN must initially report at least a Suspected link to OBL/AQ to qualify.

What, no odds?

This sucks.

TB4p

 

[HeavyStick]

I'm guessing the terrorist attacks will be focused on the internet, mostly stupid people using pseudonyms like "Redwave, pp_man, DonkDick." The effect of these "terrorists" will be crippling.

 

[LordOfDarkness]

Its always something new and different...and...

1. Its in America or

2. Involves American or Americans.


What is this world without America anyway?

Most of the movie and tv program directors, writers, producers and international news agencies are Americans or American owned.

And I'm American too......in self imposed exile.


Not to mention a vampire too.

 

[Lost Cause]

Dam busters.....

Hopefully not, but if those assholes do it right, they could put all of Washington State, or Southern California into the stone age without power. You blow hydroelectric dams by dropping a big boomer about 50 feet underwater, detonate it, and increase the explosive/water psi x1000 against the damn structure. The resulting flood, disruption in power throughout the state's grids, and transportation interruption will grind everything to a halt! No traffic lights, burglar alarms, general power, no ATM's, no streetlights, no cellphones, no microwaves, no Lit board, no gas pumps, no frozen food, no elevators, no televison. That's when a firearm is worth it's weight in gold. Can you say Hoover Dam?

 

[Lancecastor]

Re: Dam busters.....

A wonderful old war movie and plane, LC. My buddy's dad started out as a dam buster tailgunner and moved up to pilot because it was "safer".

An excellent play on my grid theory which Wierd Harold kept shooting down some weeks ago.

I think you're on to something.

Hopefully not, but if those assholes do it right, they could put all of Washington State, or Southern California into the stone age without power. You blow hydroelectric dams by dropping a big boomer about 50 feet underwater, detonate it, and increase the explosive/water psi x1000 against the damn structure. The resulting flood, disruption in power throughout the state's grids, and transportation interruption will grind everything to a halt! No traffic lights, burglar alarms, general power, no ATM's, no streetlights, no cellphones, no microwaves, no Lit board, no gas pumps, no frozen food, no elevators, no televison. That's when a firearm is worth it's weight in gold. Can you say Hoover Dam?

 

[SINthysist]

Internet attacks.

Attacks on electronic funding.

Attacks on communications networks.

The Chinese will assist.

Like the other day...

 

[Weird Harold]

Re: Re: Dam busters.....

An excellent play on my grid theory which Wierd Harold kept shooting down some weeks ago.

Taking out Hoover or Grand Coulee dam would definitely put a big hole in the grid and cause local disruptions, but making Las Vegas and Pheonix go dark wouldn't shut down the whole country. California may be Have bigger problem, because they've crippled their own power generation capabilities, unlike Las Vegas that has reserve capacity and Private generating capabilities in most of the big casinos and hotels.

Hoover Dam will shortly be a bit tougher target for terrorists, because they just broke ground on a bypass bridge to take all traffic off of the dam.

 

[Lancecastor]

See? All conspiracy theories should be vetted by WH before posting.

He's good.....almost...too good.

 

[Svenskaflicka]

As long as it doesn't involves hurting Lit...

"lite terrorism ska väl en riktig karl tåla"

 

[Weird Harold]

See? All conspiracy theories should be vetted by WH before posting.

He's good.....almost...too good.

My brother is better with conspiracies -- he's never met one that he didn't like. (Much like you actually. )

 

[Lancecastor]

As Fresh As Today's Headlines...

Heavy Traffic Used To Attack Internet
9 key servers hit in mysterious 1-hour blitz



By Mark Harrington
Staff Writer

October 24, 2002


An hour-long attack Monday against nine important Internet servers is under investigation by the White House and the FBI, whose officials stopped short yesterday of blaming the unprecedented blitz on the surge in global terrorism.

The attacks, which bombarded nine of the Internet's 13 so-called root servers with 30 to 40 times their normal traffic, caused only "some degradation" in service, but were by no means the most severe infrastructure attacks to date, said FBI spokesman, Paul Bresson.

The root servers, housed in public and private sector locations around the globe, help manage Web traffic by converting numerical Internet protocol addresses to popularly known Web addresses, known as URLs. Peter Mill, a computer scientist at the National Institute of Standards and Technology, said because most corporate and individual computers have local domain-name servers and pre-stored numerical addresses, the Internet can continue to operate with most root servers down.

"While it's very, very bad to have the root servers down, it's not the end of the world," said Laura Koetzle, security analyst at Forrester Research in Cambridge, Mass. But a prolonged outage could cause problems.

President George W. Bush's spokesman, Ari Fleisher, said "new protections" put in place over the past several years helped thwart the attack before it caused problems. Software filters to identify suspicious traffic and divert it are the prime way to thwart such attacks, Koetzle said.

Fleisher said the government doesn't know who launched the attacks. "We'll take a look to see if there are any signs of who it may or may not be." Asked if cyber-terrorists were suspected, he said, "I'm not aware there's anything that would lead anybody to that direction. History has shown that many of these attacks actually come from the hacker community."

One expert said Monday's attack was not only inevitable but could be a harbinger of worse to come.

"We need to get our act together," said Sushil Jajodia, director for the Center for Secure Information Systems at George Mason University, where he is a professor. He said the answer is "better products and dedicated research to solve the problem. Unless steps are taken it will happen again."

Those connected with monitoring traffic said Internet defense systems appeared to work well.

"As best we can tell, no user noticed and the attack was dealt with and life goes on," Louis Touton, vice president for the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers, the Internet's key governing body, told the Associated Press.

Still, Jajodia said he wouldn't be surprised by a big cyber-terror attack in the near future.

"The previous concern before was that some lone hacker in the basement of a California home would do it, but my concern now is that nation-states or a very small group of dedicated terrorists could be behind it," he said.

But Mark Zwillinger, a former computer crimes attorney at the Department of Justice who investigated widespread denial of service attacks two years ago, said while the environment might seem ripe for a war-related cyber attack, he wouldn't rush to judgment.

Zwillinger was at the Justice Department when the similar denial of service attack on the domain-name servers of the U.S. Army in 1998 heightened cyber-terror concerns. Those suspicions proved unfounded.

"The attack was carried out by two California teenagers trained by an Israeli hacker," said Zwillinger, who is now an attorney at Kirkland & Ellis in Washington.

Knut Royce in Washington contributed to this article.

Copyright Newsday Inc

 

[Lost Cause]

Properly timed...

A power grid attack could involve synchronized action against the dams, and key substations/providers. They don't have to hit nuke plants, just the feeder lines from them. Doing it right would take weeks/months to get basic service restored. It would take a small force of 25 wackos to cover it. A 22ft boat could get close enough to a damn to drop the explosive to the depth needed.


*I think the aircraft in "Dam Busters" were either Lancasters, or Mosquitoes. The theory of skipping a bomb into a dam was brilliant!

 

[Lancecastor]

Interpol Votes "New & Different"

Report says terrorists may alter approach


By Edward Harris, Associated Press, 10/24/2002

AOUNDE, Cameroon - Terror groups may switch to attacking smaller targets, ''in a long-lasting campaign of attrition'' to avoid being wiped out in the international antiterror campaign focused on Al Qaeda, a confidential Interpol report warned.



''Terrorists might, in the short- to medium-term, `go back to basics,' choosing symbolic targets with limited casualties in a long-lasting campaign of attrition, hoping that over time the collective will of states to fight terrorism will wane,'' the Interpol document said.

A copy of the report, which was obtained by The Associated Press, also said Al Qaeda is probably rebuilding its communications and support networks and ''will search for more lethal and devastating ways to attack.''

Other groups associated with Al Qaeda also ''will continue to carry out attacks,'' it said.

The 30-page ''Global Threat Assessment,'' circulated among 455 top law enforcement officials attending an annual meeting of the international policing organization, does not mention specific terrorist plans.

Edgar Adamson, who heads the US delegation at the four-day Interpol meeting in the west African nation of Cameroon, said the report would mainly be helpful for police officials from countries lacking sophisticated intelligence services.

''Much of the information likely came from the United States, so it's not so enlightening for us,'' said Adamson, director of the Treasury and Justice departments' joint Interpol Bureau. ''But it would be for many others who are here.''

The report said that more than a year after the Sept. 11 attacks there was little firm intelligence about terrorist activities, particularly those of Al Qaeda.

The report drew on information from Interpol's 181 members and addressed the spectrum of organized criminal activities, not just terrorism.

But the report said the devastation of the Sept. 11 attacks, which were attributed to Al Qaeda, may inspire other groups to take up terrorism.

''Al Qaeda's activity has perhaps created an environment in which other radical and confrontational nationalist movements, ethnic groups, or religious movements will get involved in smaller terrorist activity,'' it said.

This story ran on page A28 of the Boston Globe on 10/24/2002.


Boston Globe Link

 

[Lancecastor]

Re: Properly timed...

Agreed on the dam scenario, regardless of what Harold is about to say in response. Cascading can bring half the continental US and western Canada offline almost immediately and it would take weeks to fix.

Think of the western dock strike's fast effect on the economy. Now turn off half the continent's power for a week to a month....

Yes it was Lancasters.

Lance

A power grid attack could involve synchronized action against the dams, and key substations/providers. They don't have to hit nuke plants, just the feeder lines from them. Doing it right would take weeks/months to get basic service restored. It would take a small force of 25 wackos to cover it. A 22ft boat could get close enough to a damn to drop the explosive to the depth needed.


*I think the aircraft in "Dam Busters" were either Lancasters, or Mosquitoes. The theory of skipping a bomb into a dam was brilliant!