The everything about rape topic.

[ecstaticsub]

hmmmm...maybe blame is too strong..

but neither can one say if the person is THAT inebriated or wasted or inable to control theirself than that person is completely innocent....

that person should be held accountable to their actions. its not their fault some douchebag decided to rape them. no. but that person should be fully aware of their actions and risks.

I guess that is why I've never tried to press charges or even admitted to myself that it could be seen as rape. I was drunk, but I was also innocent of committing a crime.

The question I ask myself now (20 some years later) is even though I never went out with the same man twice after a "rape" it didn't stop me from getting drunk and putting myself in those types of situations.

Maybe it was the beginning of my masochistic/submissive tendencies without me recognizing it as such.

 

[Betticus]

Don't feed the trolls.

Your sexy av ....

 

[PeterHenson]

Your sexy av ....

Do you think it is as sexy as those Turkish balls that once dangled in your face?

 

[satindesire]

Your sexy av ....

You're sweet.

The more attention we pay him, the longer he'll stay to bug us, honey.

 

[Betticus]

I guess that is why I've never tried to press charges or even admitted to myself that it could be seen as rape. I was drunk, but I was also innocent of committing a crime.

The question I ask myself now (20 some years later) is even though I never went out with the same man twice after a "rape" it didn't stop me from getting drunk and putting myself in those types of situations.

Maybe it was the beginning of my masochistic/submissive tendencies without me recognizing it as such.

I've always been turned on by the rape fantasy, from an earlier age.. probably around 12 or so I had some of those more violent, primal urges. From what I understand the non consensual sex fantasy is still among the top fantasies for women. Not to be mistaken for reality of in this context. There is just something about the mix of violence, force, sex, taboo, etc....

 

[Betticus]

You're sweet.

The more attention we pay him, the longer he'll stay to bug us, honey.

I know, I was just teasing him a little bit. For a troll he's kinda cute and harmless.

 

[PertPerth]

Does incestual molestation count if you were too young to consent but didn't object?

I think that depends on the person. I would say that I've been molested, not raped - even though I was digitally penetrated. (And yes, I was too young to concent, maybe 7 or 8 - I didn't realise that my vagina was a hole until he stuck his finger up there!)

 

[PeterHenson]

I know, I was just teasing him a little bit. For a troll he's kinda cute and harmless.

Really, what a cyber tease you turned out to be.

 

[PeterHenson]

You're sweet.

The more attention we pay him, the longer he'll stay to bug us, honey.

It is odd that you say this since you started the conversation. Before your remark I would not have said anything to you.

Maybe that is where the issue is?

 

[PeterHenson]

The sad truth in all of this is the amount of people that have been molested and the emotional hardships that entail the abuse.

 

[Betticus]

The sad truth in all of this is the amount of people that have been molested and the emotional hardships that entail the abuse.

Well, if someone in your family or group of friends had loved you enough then they would have taken a little time to molest you a bit.

I love people so much that I try to just radiate an aura of pervy molestation wherever I go. Secretly, it makes people feel valued as an object and not any of that fairy tale sappy love stuff.

 

[RawHumor]

If two people are both very drunk or otherwise impaired and sex occurs which probably wouldn't have occurred if they were not in that state, are they both rapists? are they both responsible?

In Michigan, at least, the guy is 100% responsible. If she says that she wouldn't have wanted to have sex with the guy the night before if she was sober, then he's a rapist... even if she fucking seduced him.

If she's drunk, she can't give consent. If she can't legally give consent and he fucks her, he just raped her.

Fun law...

 

[ownedsubgal]

Well, if someone in your family or group of friends had loved you enough then they would have taken a little time to molest you a bit.

I love people so much that I try to just radiate an aura of pervy molestation wherever I go. Secretly, it makes people feel valued as an object and not any of that fairy tale sappy love stuff.

i can't figure out whether this thread is intended to be serious or some sort of not-so-funny joke?

 

[satindesire]

I know, I was just teasing him a little bit. For a troll he's kinda cute and harmless.

It's amazing how cute and harmless they are when they're on your ignore list.

 

[PeterHenson]

Well, if someone in your family or group of friends had loved you enough then they would have taken a little time to molest you a bit.

I love people so much that I try to just radiate an aura of pervy molestation wherever I go. Secretly, it makes people feel valued as an object and not any of that fairy tale sappy love stuff.

After my first tour in Iraq I had troubles sleeping at night for some of the things I had to do. To this day I still have problems going to funerals knowing that I caused so much grief and mourning in other peoples lives, at the same time I don't give a fuck about the individual(s) that were on the receiving end of our engagement.

After reading your response I say that I would love to kill you and feel good about doing so with a pretty high level of certainty. Take that for whatever it is but believe that it is 100% true. Talking about molestation and children in any aspect is not clever nor is is a joking matter. I have kids and nieces and nephews and I would just assume not joke about sexual abuse towards children.

 

[ecstaticsub]

In Michigan, at least, the guy is 100% responsible. If she says that she wouldn't have wanted to have sex with the guy the night before if she was sober, then he's a rapist... even if she fucking seduced him.

If she's drunk, she can't give consent. If she can't legally give consent and he fucks her, he just raped her.

Fun law...

And a drunk woman can be very seductive to an equally intoxicated man.

I guess the law assumes if a man is sober enough to fuck he is sober enough to make she he gets consent.

 

[Betticus]

After my first tour in Iraq I had troubles sleeping at night for some of the things I had to do. To this day I still have problems going to funerals knowing that I caused so much grief and mourning in other peoples lives, at the same time I don't give a fuck about the individual(s) that were on the receiving end of our engagement.

After reading your response I say that I would love to kill you and feel good about doing so with a pretty high level of certainty. Take that for whatever it is but believe that it is 100% true. Talking about molestation and children in any aspect is not clever nor is is a joking matter. I have kids and nieces and nephews and I would just assume not joke about sexual abuse towards children.

Let's be honest, you are here in this topic because deep down you want to rape someone. Or you have and are in here to further explore it with open minded people but just haven't come to terms with that aspect of yourself. Or maybe you were raped or molested and are looking for a hug. Either way, you are just as perverted as I am..

And don't feel too guilty about being sexually attracted to your nieces and nephews, just don't act on those feelings. Try to figure out where they are coming from and then logically work through to the conclusion that you can control your impulses. Then just let it go, it doesn't help to carry around that kind of baggage.

 

[Betticus]

i can't figure out whether this thread is intended to be serious or some sort of not-so-funny joke?

It is a serious topic and will be again after the railroading stops. It's just taking some twisty mountain paths at the moment.

 

[NymphGoddess]

Stemmed from an offshoot from another topic. Without being too judgemental of each other perhaps we can discuss rape, examine the different points of view.. rapist vs. raped. The different types from purely fantasy and hot all the way to destroyed lives.. basically an open topic that hits it from every angle.


Does incestual molestation count if you were too young to consent but didn't object?

Also, I'm just guessing that a good percentage of us here have been through at least a date rape in our pasts or even have crossed the line with someone as the aggressor or both.

that is the most heinous kind...unless it involves murder too. A child is innocent, and a person who does that to a child should have the offending body part(s) cut off

 

[PeterHenson]

Let's be honest, you are here in this topic because deep down you want to rape someone. Or you have and are in here to further explore it with open minded people but just haven't come to terms with that aspect of yourself. Or maybe you were raped or molested and are looking for a hug. Either way, you are just as perverted as I am..

And don't feel too guilty about being sexually attracted to your nieces and nephews, just don't act on those feelings. Try to figure out where they are coming from and then logically work through to the conclusion that you can control your impulses. Then just let it go, it doesn't help to carry around that kind of baggage.

To be honest I am here because nothing was going on and I clicked the new post and went through the threads that people are posting.

As for you tyring to get to me that is alright. I know that people like you sit around and talk to get at people, when someone is in your face you're scared and speechless. I will leave it at that, so now that you have read this go back to your posting.

 

[Betticus]

that is the most heinous kind...unless it involves murder too. A child is innocent, and a person who does that to a child should have the offending body part(s) cut off

It was my sis and she was only a year older. It turned out that an uncle had been molesting her and I guess she was somehow trying to work it out. They are both dead now tho so it doesn't really matter.

 

[Betticus]

To be honest I am here because nothing was going on and I clicked the new post and went through the threads that people are posting.

As for you tyring to get to me that is alright. I know that people like you sit around and talk to get at people, when someone is in your face you're scared and speechless. I will leave it at that, so now that you have read this go back to your posting.

Well, if you ever want to talk about it feel free to come back.

 

[NymphGoddess]

It was my sis and she was only a year older. It turned out that an uncle had been molesting her and I guess she was somehow trying to work it out. They are both dead now tho so it doesn't really matter.

I have a family member who that happened to...by an uncle and a cousin....the cousin and family member are alive. she was 3-6 yrs old durring when it happened. If it was up to me...I'd cut their balls off....with a dull blade

 

[Betticus]

I have a family member who that happened to...by an uncle and a cousin....the cousin and family member are alive. she was 3-6 yrs old durring when it happened. If it was up to me...I'd cut their balls off....with a dull blade

From what I understand castration doesn't help. Perhaps a lobotomy instead. I don't understand at all how or why the excuse of passed on behaviours comes up in child abuse cases as when the difference between right and wrong is clearly known by an adult or teen or even kids.. there is still a cognizant choice being made to physically perform the act of abuse. I can recognize the concept at a high level but understanding it isn't within my realm of expertise. I don't think that my abuses however small have any bearing on my fetishes.

 

[ultramarineblue]

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