The Clinton News Network and the Liberal Media

KillerMuffin said:
Ever hear of "Ted Turner?"

The Billionaire? The Billionaire who owns large corporations?

Do you think that he decides what airs every day? HOnest. Do you?
 
Does this mean Dan Rather now morphs into a Conservative?
 
MrBates said:
Uh.....yeah.

So a man who has an empire to run decides to put that off to decide which movie is featured on the entertainment minute. Interesting.
 
lavender said:
Ever heard of recent mergers?

You mean the one that leaves him in charge of the world's largest communications company?

Yeah, I heard about that.

Word is that not even Steve Case has real clout to handle Turner, and Case founded AOL. Turner is the Supreme Almighty in that company. What he wants, he gets.

Of course I disagree with your initial assertion. But it's not worth yelling about to me. :)
 
lavender said:
The "liberal" media is no more. Large corporate conglomerates own the vast majority of media outlets, especially the news.

Since when are large corporate conglomerates liberal?
Since when do all the employees of an organization follow the political whims of their owners?

Most journalists are liberal. They can't eliminate their bias, no matter how hard they try. Not that I fault them; I don't think I could be neutral if I had their jobs.

But just because Rupert Murdoch is a conservative doesn't mean that every beat reporter FOX News has is a hardcore Republican. But most of CNN's employees are liberal, notwithstanding Ted Turner's personal lunacies.

TB4p
 
Re: Re: The Clinton News Network and the Liberal Media

teddybear4play said:
Since when do all the employees of an organization follow the political whims of their owners?

Most journalists are liberal. They can't eliminate their bias, no matter how hard they try. Not that I fault them; I don't think I could be neutral if I had their jobs.

But just because Rupert Murdoch is a conservative doesn't mean that every beat reporter FOX News has is a hardcore Republican. But most of CNN's employees are liberal, notwithstanding Ted Turner's personal lunacies.

TB4p

HOWEVER, while people may have personal beliefs. It doesn't mean that the network has that bias.

Is the media trying to skew everything to a liberal bias in an attempt to brainwash people? That's absurd.
 
Lavy is right. There's nothing more carefully connived and propagated than the conservative brainwash that the media is liberal.

Good god. Please remember, the news media is NOT in the business of reporting the news; they're in the business of selling it. Always have been, always will be, and they'll sell exactly what we want to hear because that's what's good for their business.

If you don't like what they're selling, stop buying it. It's as simple as that.
 
I can't stand to watch Fox News longer than 30sec at a time. "Fair and Balanced" means we go out of our way to make sure Republicans like us.

MSNBC at least gives Phil D and Press significant time while countering them with Matthews and Buchanan. CNN seems pretty neutral to me, their political analysts don't often laud democrats. However, if the litmus test is who is critical of GWB's diplomatic, oratory, and cognitive talents...
 
I liked CNN's recent piece on GWB re-arranging WHITE HOUSE PRESS CORPs seats. Cox Newspapers and Fox News moved up to the very front. Both US News and World Report and Time Magazine went from the front to the 2nd to last row. CNN and MSNBC moved back several rows. The seating chart tells me something, however I'm biased in thinking Time Magazine is a moderate news source.
 
70/30 said:
I liked CNN's recent piece on GWB re-arranging WHITE HOUSE PRESS CORPs seats. Cox Newspapers and Fox News moved up to the very front. Both US News and World Report and Time Magazine went from the front to the 2nd to last row. CNN and MSNBC moved back several rows. The seating chart tells me something, however I'm biased in thinking Time Magazine is a moderate news source.

Do you think this is something that the geniuses in the current administration just invented?
 
Problem Child said:
Do you think this is something that the geniuses in the current administration just invented?

Blatant, arrogant, unabashed. GWB is particularly.
 
partisan, one that should not be trusted to nominate fair supreme court justices.
 
Something interesting.....

I had the tv muted while watching the reports coming in, when the Republican candidate was profiled, the commentator had a distinct sneer. When reporting on a Democratic candidate, there was a smile. This body language caught my attention, so I tried it on other channels, the same observations! Coincidence? I think not. Tomorrow will be better with their blurry eye makeup, baggy eyes, and pouts showing their unbiased observations.

Nothing much! :D
 
lavendar, that would be shareholders...

People who voted last night to have their stock actually GO UP!

Hey Az, who called it? Me or your egghead Poli-Sci [-fction] professors...
 
I am only taking one poli sci class this semester and it is an IR theory class. We don't spend much time talking about domestic politics unless it is national security related. All the rest of my classes are Public relations/journalism with a film class for shits and giggles.

None of my profs have said anything about calling an election ever really. The past few have just been too close.

We have been overdue for a party realignment now for a while maybe it is finaly happening. Hopefuly some kind of viable third party will emerge out of whatever happens in the next few years and hopefuly that party will live long enough to get some things accomplished.
 
Problem Child said:
Do you think this is something that the geniuses in the current administration just invented?

sweep under rug, everyone before. NEWSMAX next podium. NYTIMES hallway.
 
SINthysist said:
lavendar, that would be shareholders...

People who voted last night to have their stock actually GO UP!

Hey Az, who called it? Me or your egghead Poli-Sci [-fction] professors...

Um... who didn't know that the fed would drop rates again? Really, who didn't?
 
Re: Re: The Clinton News Network and the Liberal Media

teddybear4play said:
Since when do all the employees of an organization follow the political whims of their owners?

Most journalists are liberal. They can't eliminate their bias, no matter how hard they try. Not that I fault them; I don't think I could be neutral if I had their jobs.

But just because Rupert Murdoch is a conservative doesn't mean that every beat reporter FOX News has is a hardcore Republican. But most of CNN's employees are liberal, notwithstanding Ted Turner's personal lunacies.

TB4p

Being one of those so-called "liberal journalists" for the past 7 years...I can say I've never followed the whim of my boss or my owners. I have written stories that caused this paper (owned by Knight Ridder) to lose it's largest advertiser. Did I get fired? Nope. Why? Because the story was the truth and that's what I get paid to investigate and print. The media may seem liberal to you, but that is not always, and not usually, true. Many, in fact, most, of my co-workers and fellow journalists are NOT liberal because we have to deal with the bullshit, the assholes, the lying politicians, the bottom dwellers and the very dregs of society every day and that can change one's outlook on life and politics VERY quickly.

I can eliminate my bias and I do so each and every day with each and every story I write. It is not my job to inject my personal feelings into a story, no matter what the subject matter is. I treat the death row inmate exactly the same way I treat a child rape. Why? Because it's my job to provide the information, not make up someone's mind for them. I do this by carefully choosing the words I use and the phrases I construct. It is easy to put bias into a story...it is just as easy to eliminate it. Those journalists who are biased and show their bias should go into PR.

BTW, I am NOT liberal when it comes to politics. What's mine is mine and I don't want to share with anyone.
 
lavender said:
Newsflash whiney babies:

The "liberal" media is no more. Large corporate conglomerates own the vast majority of media outlets, especially the news.

Since when are large corporate conglomerates liberal?

Oh please. The disdain dripping in the voices of the radio commentators I heard last night whenever an election went to a Republican wasn't a give-away? I love election day. That's when you really see that most news people are Liberal/Democrat. Thankfully, there are a few Conservative/Republican outlets now too.

There is no unbiased news reporting. The report is always colored by the reporter's perspective.
 
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