The Bitch Thread

[graceanne]

Graceanne, I heard that also and seen it also. Many people I know who get the shot end up sicker. One girl got pneumoinia (sp?).

So why do the stupid dr's keep pushing it?

I'm lucky in that my drs don't push it with me - I'm on massive amounts of auto-immune suppressants.

 

[brioche]

Graceanne, I heard that also and seen it also. Many people I know who get the shot end up sicker. One girl got pneumoinia (sp?).

Well, I will say that the other year I had the flu it wasn't a really bad one. Some Gravol and sleep and I was fine.
But I'm wondering why I've been so sick this year. No colds, and then a COLD, and then this.
Over this, I'd take the repetitive colds every time.

 

[brioche]

My Dad said something about my having the flu tonight, and I said it wasn't MY fault.
Then he said that if he gets it that WILL be my fault...
And I said, "Well, it's not like I'm going around licking things."
He laughed. I haven't heard him laugh like that in a long time...
Then he said, "Well, good?" like he actually had no idea what to say to that.
He's also been making fun of my mumbles.

One plus - I am deemed to weak to carry my stuff downstairs from the hall so my brother did it, and I'm pretty sure I can get out of cleaning up tomorrow too.
Of course, I actually AM to weak to carry it, but it was nice to have someone else do it. And to separate what chocolate I brought in from the non edible stuff.
Though my dad is eating my Belgian chocolates.

And I think I have to take a shower tomorrow, which I'm not looking forward to.

 

[brioche]

So why do the stupid dr's keep pushing it?

I'm lucky in that my drs don't push it with me - I'm on massive amounts of auto-immune suppressants.

Since it's covered by the provincial health plan here, there's commercials. They make you feel like you're obligated to get it.

"I get the flu shot because I don't need to get the flu from you."

Well, none of us do.

I think your docs have learned, Gracie.

 

[graceanne]

Listen to the end of the commercials, there are some people who aren't allowed to have it - and I'm one of them.

So my Christmas was great, but last night sucked. I was up till 1 wrapping presents. D (2 year old) woke up and so I put him in my bed and climbed in with him. About a half an hour later K moved him and climbed in bed with me. (That was the good part. ) Anyway about an hour later I was asleep again. That is till the lights went out and woke me up. Went back to sleep and D woke up again. I got him back to sleep, went to bed and was woke up about 45 minutes later by B (4). I'm wasn't sure at the time why she woke me up, but now I know (She's got a tummy bug.) Then I went back to sleep and D woke me up, he was coughing so hard he coudln't sleep, so I propped him up on like three pillows, and went back to sleep. Then A (the 7 yr old) woke up puking. I wiped off her face, gave her a hug and put her back to bed. Then the lights came back on and woke me up, so I got up and turned off lights, and reset the alarm clock. We were up at 8 to look a presents. And clean up puke, since both B and A puked while we were unwrapping presents.

I'm tired. And very relieved that Christmas is over for this year.

 

[Kierae]

Jesus Graceanne - I needed a diagram to keep track of your nocturnal ups and downs! Much sympathy to you!

I had 2 sick with bronchitis which screwed up the "normal" holiday plans (ie yuppie conservatives versus the radical anarchist hippie types yearly debate over the holiday dinner). Both the ill ones (boy types) were in their normal bah humbug hating christmas mode which was bringing me down. We haven't put a tree up in a few years let alone decorations. So I said fuck em and went and bought an artificial tree - mind you it's a palm tree with lights. I have jokingly lusted after this tree just because it makes me giggle and I want to hang pink flamingos off it and drink mai tais (actually I want to go back to Hawaii for Christmas time so this would be second best). I hung up all my great ornaments I have collected over the years (from hawaii, alaska, italy and the kid's ornaments from when they were younger). Both of them laughed at me initially but finally admitted that 1) they loved it and 2) it definitely made the holiday more bearable. I am threatening that its not coming down and will be decorated for every "holiday" from here on out!

 

[graceanne]

Sorry to hear about the bronchitis. *hugs*

 

[brioche]

Yipes. Looks like I'm not the only one having a sick Christmas.
Sorry to hear about all the troubles.
We had a buffet style Christmas where we got to choose where to sit and noone sat with me. I felt like I was in exile. Normally they'll take the risk but I'm so miserable they're scared.
I've only been up since 3 and it feels like it's 1 am now.
Sigh.
Look on the bright side Gracie - most stomach bugs go away pretty fast.

 

[graceanne]

Yipes. Looks like I'm not the only one having a sick Christmas.
Sorry to hear about all the troubles.
We had a buffet style Christmas where we got to choose where to sit and noone sat with me. I felt like I was in exile. Normally they'll take the risk but I'm so miserable they're scared.
I've only been up since 3 and it feels like it's 1 am now.
Sigh.
Look on the bright side Gracie - most stomach bugs go away pretty fast.

That's what I'm hoping. *crosses fingers*

And *hugs*. I'm sorry you're feeling so crappy.

 

[brioche]

OOOoooh I need to bitch.
So on the 24th I went to the on-call Drs office and he told me I had the flu. I smelled something foul in this today because:
1) I was still very very sick. I still couldn't eat. I still had my fever. And MY HEAD was still pounding the fucking SHIT out of the Tylenol 2s.I mean I might as well not be taking them.
2) I had the flu shot. Granted, you can still get the flu with the flu shot, but it's supposed to be a kinder, gentler flu. It's not supposed to be a take no prisoners kind of flu.

So my doctor's office reopened today, and I called and the doctor told me she could take a look if I really thought she should, and I told her I really, really thought she should. I'm actually crying at this point, though she couldn't tell, cause I sounded so shitty anyway. But I was brought to tears.

So I went in and she tried to look down my throat and had to pry my mouth open with a tongue depressor and said, "Wow, that looks pretty red." This woman, though not my doctor, is very nice and has quite an adequate vocabulary. She took another swab and put me on antibiotics right away. Basically there is something she didn't like about my throat, in that a sore throat from the flu shouldn't look like that, I guess.

Tylenols 2s as awell, though I haven't taken any.

So I come home, choke down a few crackers, take an antibiotic, and fall asleep...and I wake up and the sore throat is 20% better. This from an antibiotic that is supposed to take about a day to work.

WHAT THE FUCK?

Did the last 4 days of pain not need to happen?Because if that's so, I'm mighty, mighty pissed. That stupid Dr. Solomon ruined my Christmas. Because of him I ate my Christmas dinner alone while everyone else fled to other rooms.

I am ANGRY.

Just to underline:I have gone through a significant amount of pain in the last five days, and if it was unnecessary....I dunno what I am gonna do, but I'm gonna do something.

 

[Chicklet]

comfort and hugs to all the sickies = (

we need a hospital ward in the cafe.

 

[graceanne]

OOOoooh I need to bitch.
So on the 24th I went to the on-call Drs office and he told me I had the flu. I smelled something foul in this today because:
1) I was still very very sick. I still couldn't eat. I still had my fever. And MY HEAD was still pounding the fucking SHIT out of the Tylenol 2s.I mean I might as well not be taking them.
2) I had the flu shot. Granted, you can still get the flu with the flu shot, but it's supposed to be a kinder, gentler flu. It's not supposed to be a take no prisoners kind of flu.

So my doctor's office reopened today, and I called and the doctor told me she could take a look if I really thought she should, and I told her I really, really thought she should. I'm actually crying at this point, though she couldn't tell, cause I sounded so shitty anyway. But I was brought to tears.

So I went in and she tried to look down my throat and had to pry my mouth open with a tongue depressor and said, "Wow, that looks pretty red." This woman, though not my doctor, is very nice and has quite an adequate vocabulary. She took another swab and put me on antibiotics right away. Basically there is something she didn't like about my throat, in that a sore throat from the flu shouldn't look like that, I guess.

Tylenols 2s as awell, though I haven't taken any.

So I come home, choke down a few crackers, take an antibiotic, and fall asleep...and I wake up and the sore throat is 20% better. This from an antibiotic that is supposed to take about a day to work.

WHAT THE FUCK?

Did the last 4 days of pain not need to happen?Because if that's so, I'm mighty, mighty pissed. That stupid Dr. Solomon ruined my Christmas. Because of him I ate my Christmas dinner alone while everyone else fled to other rooms.

I am ANGRY.

Just to underline:I have gone through a significant amount of pain in the last five days, and if it was unnecessary....I dunno what I am gonna do, but I'm gonna do something.

I've said it before . . . dr's are morons. Part of the necessary part of medical school is to have your brain removed.

 

[FurryFury]

I've said it before . . . dr's are morons. Part of the necessary part of medical school is to have your brain removed.

*chuckles*

I tend to agree with that!

I'm so sorry that you Brioche and you beautiful Graceanne have been having illness during the holidays!

I hope Graceanne that you kids are better now.

Brioche, I wonder if you didn't have two things at once? My kids once had step and foot and mouth disease at the same time. That lead to difficulties in diagnosing because the doc was only aware of the strep at first. Some of the symptoms are the same.

*HUGS* to you both.

Now for my bitching...

Someone has started a "tear out" of their house close enough to me that I can hear all that noise too damn well. My husband will soon be on night shift so it no only annoys me but worries me for his sake. I am always worried he is going to get some body part cut off at the factory.

A business close by is looking to expand which will mean more noise during the day.

(I'm a night person btw. I hear too damn well.)

My "money cat" is pulling out plugs of fur. What is that about???

My sinuses have been so bad that I am grumpy and can't think. Advils not touching it at all. Constant head aches for at least seven days are making me nuts.

I have a LOT of work to do. *sigh*

Okay, done now, it's time to go make lunch and wake the kiddies.

Fury

 

[brioche]

*chuckles*

I tend to agree with that!

I'm so sorry that you Brioche and you beautiful Graceanne have been having illness during the holidays!

I hope Graceanne that you kids are better now.

Brioche, I wonder if you didn't have two things at once? My kids once had step and foot and mouth disease at the same time. That lead to difficulties in diagnosing because the doc was only aware of the strep at first. Some of the symptoms are the same.

*HUGS* to you both.

Now for my bitching...

Someone has started a "tear out" of their house close enough to me that I can hear all that noise too damn well. My husband will soon be on night shift so it no only annoys me but worries me for his sake. I am always worried he is going to get some body part cut off at the factory.

A business close by is looking to expand which will mean more noise during the day.

(I'm a night person btw. I hear too damn well.)

My "money cat" is pulling out plugs of fur. What is that about???

My sinuses have been so bad that I am grumpy and can't think. Advils not touching it at all. Constant head aches for at least seven days are making me nuts.

I have a LOT of work to do. *sigh*

Okay, done now, it's time to go make lunch and wake the kiddies.

Fury

Lots to worry about, Fury. Yikes.
Could be a sinus infection. Think about antibiotics.
And he did the test right in front of me for strep A. It was negative, because I told the doc "One pink line" and she knew that meant it said no.

But she still took a swab. She has the field kits too, but she took a swab. Which means she wants to see what grows out of this. Which means that she's not sure what is lurking back there, methinks.
Or it could be mono. Maybe Chicklet gave me mono. I'm certainly sleeping enough!
My throat isn't down all the way, but at least I can breathe out of my nostrils now.

 

[FurryFury]

Lots to worry about, Fury. Yikes.
Could be a sinus infection. Think about antibiotics.
And he did the test right in front of me for strep A. It was negative, because I told the doc "One pink line" and she knew that meant it said no.

But she still took a swab. She has the field kits too, but she took a swab. Which means she wants to see what grows out of this. Which means that she's not sure what is lurking back there, methinks.
Or it could be mono. Maybe Chicklet gave me mono. I'm certainly sleeping enough!
My throat isn't down all the way, but at least I can breathe out of my nostrils now.

I'm glad you are feeling at least a bit better. Hopefully soon all this will be gone.

Fury

 

[DVS]

Lots to worry about, Fury. Yikes.
Could be a sinus infection. Think about antibiotics.
And he did the test right in front of me for strep A. It was negative, because I told the doc "One pink line" and she knew that meant it said no.

But she still took a swab. She has the field kits too, but she took a swab. Which means she wants to see what grows out of this. Which means that she's not sure what is lurking back there, methinks.
Or it could be mono. Maybe Chicklet gave me mono. I'm certainly sleeping enough!
My throat isn't down all the way, but at least I can breathe out of my nostrils now.

Maybe you should have tried Zicam, when I suggested it?
Sorry, I'm only kidding. And, I don't mean to make light of your feeling bad. I don't know if it would have helped your symptoms or not. Even Zicam is limited in what it can do, no matter how wonderful I might think it is.

I do feel for you, because I know it feels terrible to be sick and not able to do anything about it. That's what bugs me most about colds and such. But, I hope your doctor finds out what is wrong and quickly dispences the proper drugs for a cure. I hate to see anybody being miserable unless they can't sit down and I'm the one who caused it.

Take care of yourself and don't let this get you down. I'm very glad you are feeling some better and can breath through your nostrils now. I was close to having a panic attack by proxy!

 

[graceanne]

I know this isn't the whine thread, but I'm still gonna use it.

I am fucking exhausted. Yesterday at 7 I got a phone call from a friend of mine, saying she had the flu, and would I come over and bring her some ginger ale and all. So I had to do a couple of other things, and I didn't get there till 9. When I got there she was so out of it it took me five minutes to wake her up and talk her into getting her robe on. (Cause after five minutes of waking her up, she was definately going to the ER.) I found out that with the puking she hadn't been able to keep any of her meds down (she's crippled with Rheumatoid Arthritis), so besides having the flu she was beginning to have some serious withdrawls. (She's on morphine.) She was also running a temp. I took her in, and evidently they were packed, cause it took us 3 hours just to get a room, and another 2 1/2 to see the doctor. By then her temp had gone down and I learned that her side was killing her. I told the dr, cause she was puking again, and he decided to do a cat scan to check her appendix. We didn't see him again for two hours. On the bright side he ordered her a morphine drip which helped with her withdrawls, and some phenegrin, which helped with the puking, and some fluids. She did get her cat scan, and they're pretty sure it's her appendix so they wanted to admit her. Then another two ambulance's showed up. It was two more hours before they got her admitted. Then another hour after that before she was comfortable enough for me to leave. I didn't get home till 6:30 am. D (my 2 year old) got me up at 9:30.

 

[FurryFury]

I know this isn't the whine thread, but I'm still gonna use it.

I am fucking exhausted. Yesterday at 7 I got a phone call from a friend of mine, saying she had the flu, and would I come over and bring her some ginger ale and all. So I had to do a couple of other things, and I didn't get there till 9. When I got there she was so out of it it took me five minutes to wake her up and talk her into getting her robe on. (Cause after five minutes of waking her up, she was definately going to the ER.) I found out that with the puking she hadn't been able to keep any of her meds down (she's crippled with Rheumatoid Arthritis), so besides having the flu she was beginning to have some serious withdrawls. (She's on morphine.) She was also running a temp. I took her in, and evidently they were packed, cause it took us 3 hours just to get a room, and another 2 1/2 to see the doctor. By then her temp had gone down and I learned that her side was killing her. I told the dr, cause she was puking again, and he decided to do a cat scan to check her appendix. We didn't see him again for two hours. On the bright side he ordered her a morphine drip which helped with her withdrawls, and some phenegrin, which helped with the puking, and some fluids. She did get her cat scan, and they're pretty sure it's her appendix so they wanted to admit her. Then another two ambulance's showed up. It was two more hours before they got her admitted. Then another hour after that before she was comfortable enough for me to leave. I didn't get home till 6:30 am. D (my 2 year old) got me up at 9:30.

My God that's dangerous! You are a saint! She's lucky to have you! You may have saved her life!

*HUGS*

Fury

 

[FurryFury]

My mantra for today is:

"I do not want to go to the doctor. I do not want to go to the doctor. I do not want to go to the doctor . . ."

Fury

 

[graceanne]

My mantra for today is:

"I do not want to go to the doctor. I do not want to go to the doctor. I do not want to go to the doctor . . ."

Fury

You know, it's kinda like a murphy's law thing, but the more times you say that the more likely you're gonna end up at the drs.

*hugs* Hope you feel better.

 

[FurryFury]

You know, it's kinda like a murphy's law thing, but the more times you say that the more likely you're gonna end up at the drs.

*hugs* Hope you feel better.

Thanks for the wonderful hug beautiful Graceanne.

Thanks. Well it's a holiday weekend so that gives me some time. It's just too damn bad I can't enjoy this freaky high while I have it! There have been times when I so wanted to feel this way except for the aches and pains but the otherworldly floating thang would be cool if I knew why! LOL!

Changing mantra to something more positive.

"I feel good. I feel good all over. I feel good. Om."

Fury

 

[graceanne]

You know I've heard that people can lie to themselves. I've tried it. One year it got below zero (not a norm for Oregon), and of course no one had seasonally appropriate clothes. Me and my best friend would wait for our bus, telling ourselves "I'm warm, I'm warm, I'm sooooooo warm." It never worked. *sigh*

 

[FurryFury]

Oh dear . . .

You see, IMHO, people lie to themselves all the time. They believe some terrible things they tell themselves. They tell themselves that they are bad, stupid, lazy or what have you and they believe it. Then they become those things but they don't have to do that.

What you tell yourself things, I believe you do hear it, sometimes deeply.

However if you make the effort you can tell yourself good things and internalize them instead.

Is that a lie?

I call them positive affirmations and they can work. I didn't coin the term mind you. This all comes from listening to other motivation speakers back when I was one. They, positive affirmations, can do wonders when used correctly but is it a lie? I think not. I'd rather call it hopeful thinking, but so what if it is?

I think it is channeling your own resources in a more positive way. Does it work for everyone and everything. No, but, it often can work particularly for someone as suggestive as I am.

It's a resource which I choose to utilize now.

Fury

 

[graceanne]

I am tall, I am tall, I am tall . . . it's not working.

(JK, I know what you mean. It's like if you tell a child they're bad long enough eventually they will be.)

 

[FurryFury]

I am tall, I am tall, I am tall . . . it's not working.

(JK, I know what you mean. It's like if you tell a child they're bad long enough eventually they will be.)

*nods*

It's worth noting that often what we consider truths are in fact not truths but internalized negativity often seeded there by our early caregivers.

Everyone has "truths" that are in fact due to being told or telling themselves negatives. Everyone revises history and has a skewed perspective.

I'm listening to Stephanie Mills now. I had to get the CD out of my car where I usually need it the most. Her song "I feel good," makes me feel much better often.

The first time I tried positive affirmations I didn't expect it to work but I was at wits end and ready to try anything as long as I was pretty sure it wouldn't hurt me. I'll be damned! It did work!

Life can be good sometimes.

Fury