Texas, WTF ?

Abbott calls for state power to nullify U.S. laws, Supreme Court rulings
Governor wants constitutional convention

January 8, 2015

Gov. Greg Abbott wants to
dramatically curtail the U.S. Supreme Court's power and slash federal oversight of states through a national convention to amend the U.S. Constitution.


Convening such a national gathering is allowed under the U.S. Constitution, but would be a difficult proposition. It would require approval by 34 states -- including Texas through its Legislature.


Even some Republicans open to the idea of a constitutional convention have pointed out that there is risk to the long-shot idea in that it could result in changes far beyond what those calling for it desire.


http://www.chron.com/news/politics/...ls-for-state-nullification-of-U-S-6745684.php



http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slat...bott_calls_for_constitutional_convention.html


The fifth and ninth, though, are very specific and completely bonkers. (The ninth calls to mind nullification, one of the Southern concepts that helped bring about the Civil War.) Keep in mind that, given the way population is distributed, a "two-thirds majority" of states wouldn't actually have to include anywhere close to a majority of the country's population. (The combined population of the 34 smallest U.S. states, for instance, is slightly more than 100 million out of a total population of 318 million.) At this very moment, in fact, there are 32 Republican governors and 31 Republican-controlled state legislatures despite the fact that a Republican presidential candidate has only gotten more than 50 percent of the vote once since 1988. (George W. Bush got 50.7 percent in 2004.)

Abbott's proposal, in other words, could quite easily give a party that was in the minority nationally the ability to veto duly passed congressional legislation and to overturn Supreme Court decisions like Roe v. Wade or Brown v. Board of Education, destroying the balance of powers and, really, defeating the purpose of having a Congress or a Supreme Court in the first place.


http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/...ed-for-an-Article-V-Constitutional-Convention



Delivering the keynote address at the “Texas Public Policy Forum” today, Texas Governor Greg Abbott (R-Extremist) called for an Article V Constitutional Convention.

In a 90 page screed, Abbott proposes 9 (nine!!) amendments to the United States Constitution. He feels that these amendments “rein in the federal government”.

In no particular order, the amendments proposed by Abbott are:

(1) Prohibit Congress from regulating activity that occurs wholly within one state.

(2) Require Congress to balance it’s budget.

(3) Prohibit administrative agencies from creating federal law.

(4) Prohibit administrative agencies from preempting state laws.

(5) Allow a two-thirds majority of the states to override a U.S. Supreme Court decision.

(6) Require a seven-justice supermajority of the U.S. Supreme Court in decisions that invalidate a “democratically enacted law”.

(7) Limit the federal government to powers expressly delegated to it in the Constitution.

(8) Give state officials the power to sue in federal court when federal officials “overstep” their bounds.

(9) Allow a two-thirds majority of the States to override a federal law or regulation.
 
If only our elected representatives were so passionate about improving the job market and healthcare, and preventing gun massacres. Their prayers for these issues just aren't enough.
 
May 15, 2016 The New York Times took notice of the Texas Supreme Court's rejection of the pleas of 600 districts. 400 of the districts are poor, and are burdened.

For the past five years, the schools have been trying to get their state government to fix the funding problem.

In 2011 $5.4 billion was cut from Texas education funding.


Who thought giving tax breaks to the tune of $3.8 billion was a good idea ?

There will be 4 billion dollars missing from the 2017 budget, if Federal funding is refused. A little matter of defying the law that applies to transgender students.


The Texas public school finance system is broken, but not so badly broken that the state is legally required to fix it. That was the head-scratching ruling handed down on May 13 by the Texas Supreme Court, shutting down a five-year challenge to how Texas pays for its public education.

The lawsuit began in 2011, when the Texas Legislature (working off incorrect revenue forecasts from then-Comptroller Susan Combs) gouged a $5.4 billion hole in the amount it sends to school districts. That triggered legal challenges from 600 school districts, as well as the Equity Center and the Mexican American Legal Defense and Educational Fund (MALDEF), and in 2014 Judge John Dietz found for the plaintiffs. He ruled that the jcurrent system violated the requirements placed on the state by the Texas Constitution


AISD Board President Kendall Pace argued that, even though the state won the case, the sheer scale of the lawsuit should give lawmakers pause for thought. "Let's put it in terms the Legislature can understand: If two-thirds of your clients think your product or services are broken, then you need to do something about it."

That's what this is all really about. The Supreme Court could not create a school finance system: It could merely instruct the Legislature to revise, fix, or replace what is already in place. A strong ruling up-holding Dietz would have required lawmakers to put a fix in place.


http://www.austinchronicle.com/news/2016-05-20/if-its-broke-dont-fix-it/
 
"Instructors would also have the right to use deadly force “in defense of property of the school that employs the educator.”

"...civil immunity would be granted to those who use deadly force, meaning they would not be liable for the injury or death of student."
We have always had the right to defend life, limb, and property... is this news to you?

They'll be outlawing harassment next.
Depending on what you mean by "harassment", isn't it already illegal?

Is this a real person?
 
Texas river expected to crest at record level as locals brace for more flooding

Big Trouble on the Brazos, you Texicans can stop praying for rain now!

Residents of some rural south-east Texas counties braced for more flooding along a river that is expected to crest at a record level just two years after it had run dry in places because of drought.

National Weather Service meteorologists predicted the Brazos river would crest at 53.5 feet by midday on Tuesday in Fort Bend County, three feet above the previous record and topping a 1994 flood that caused extensive damage.

During four days of torrential rain, six people died in floods along the Brazos, which runs from New Mexico to the Gulf of Mexico. A Brazos River Authority map shows all 11 of the reservoirs fed by the Brazos at 95 to 100% capacity.

Four of the six dead were recovered in Washington County, located between Austin and Houston, county judge John Brieden said. Lake Somerville, one of the Brazos reservoirs, was “gushing uncontrollably” over the spillway, threatening people downriver, he said.
 
And it's raining again, and the forecast is rain every day until the weekend.
 
Success Of Brexit Vote Inspires Slack-Jawed Yokels To Demand ‘Texit.’ Get It? ‘TEXIT’!


Heartened by the glorious self-determination vote in the United Kingdom (not to mention the imminent global economic collapse), secessionist dipwads in Texas are thrilled at the prospect for “Texit,” since they appear to think that the unpleasantness of 1861-1865 hadn’t settled the question. Sure, secession may be completely illegal — as confirmed by the Supreme Court in an 1869 case involving Texas — but that’s no hindrance to the dreamers of the “Texas Nationalist Movement,” who are pretty sure the Supreme Court doesn’t count either. Here’s what Daniel Miller, the head honcho of the TNM, said to Australian news outlet News.com.au:

Mr Miller says the core reason for the movement is a firm belief that the best people to govern Texas are the people of Texas, as opposed to the Washington-based federal government.

“At this moment, we don’t enjoy that right,” he said. “The vast majority of the laws, rules and regulations that affect the people of Texas are created by the political class or unelected bureaucrats in Washington.”

Miller didn’t specify what those oppressive “laws, rules and regulations” were, exactly, but we’d be willing to bet they have to do with taking away Texans’ sacred rights to dump toxic sludge, tell Those People (for multiple values of THEM) to get the hell out of their restaurants, and something something all the guns. And they’re a hugely popular movement, claiming to have over 260,000 members, although of course that also includes however many trolls signed up just for laughs. Out of a Texas population of 27 million, that sounds like a pretty impressive drop in the bucket.
 
If only our elected representatives were so passionate about improving the job market and healthcare, and preventing gun massacres. Their prayers for these issues just aren't enough.

Much easier to pray than work hard and make sacrifices. Makes for good sound bites on TV too.
 
But these Texit people don't realize is that they lose ALL Federal funding AND the military bases.

I don't think TX gives a shit about all that federal funding that gets them what? Some dick bag in CA or NY trying to micromanage their lives from DC? LOL

And they don't lose the bases, they will still be there and they will be occupied by Texas's military...yea they have their own and they don't answer to POTUS.
 
I don't think TX gives a shit about all that federal funding that gets them what? Some dick bag in CA or NY trying to micromanage their lives from DC? LOL

And they don't lose the bases, they will still be there and they will be occupied by Texas's military...yea they have their own and they don't answer to POTUS.

They lose the military bases
They lose the ancillary money earned from the bases
They lose the funding they receive for education - which is lost
Then they will have to raise an Army, which will not have tanks or planes or anything else.

Yeah, some people haven't thought this out well.
 
Also, if these Texit idiots knew history, the EU is more akin to US during the Articles of Confederation days, than currently.
 
They lose the military bases

No, they don't do some HW. Those bases belong to Texas and are leased out to the USG.

They lose the ancillary money earned from the bases

Temporary issue.

They lose the funding they receive for education - which is lost

They don't give a fuck. They would educate their own how they see fit, not how NYC or LA sees fit.

Then they will have to raise an Army, which will not have tanks or planes or anything else.

They already have one....and it's very well equipped.

Yeah, some people haven't thought this out well.

You don't even know that TX has it's own military, power grid etc. etc. and all sorts of shit like they have been planning to leave the union since they joined it.

Also, if these Texit idiots knew history, the EU is more akin to US during the Articles of Confederation days, than currently.

What's that got to do with the fact that TX would be just fine without NY, CA and other control freak libz like you trying to micromanage them?
 
No, they don't do some HW. Those bases belong to Texas and are leased out to the USG.

OK, now that's just stupid. :rolleyes: They lose everything but the land and buildings, and god knows Texas doesn't have enough of those already, right? Geez, just listen to yourself. Did you post this as a joke?
 
They lose the military bases
They lose the ancillary money earned from the bases
They lose the funding they receive for education - which is lost
Then they will have to raise an Army, which will not have tanks or planes or anything else.

Yeah, some people haven't thought this out well.

Texas has the National Guard and State Guard. Naval forces are weak though.

I'm thinking export revenues would be oil based though. With all the drought talk I would think agriculture is hurting. Nice to be able to feed your own people or at least make a good try of it. Taxes ear marked for the Feds go instead to state coffers.

Texans would have to accept a big drop in standard of living.

Hard for any country to go it alone. Globalization and free trade are the rule these days.
 
OK, now that's just stupid. :rolleyes: They lose everything but the land and buildings, and god knows Texas doesn't have enough of those already, right? Geez, just listen to yourself. Did you post this as a joke?

Maybe but I HIGHLY doubt it. The US military NEVER cleans up it's shit and TX already has all the sensitive items, shit it builds most of them so they likely wouldn't bother with anything except maybe some of the super pricey items. B2's.....latest and greatest naval ships?? That's about it.

Texas has the National Guard and State Guard. Naval forces are weak though.

I'm thinking export revenues would be oil based though. With all the drought talk I would think agriculture is hurting. Nice to be able to feed your own people or at least make a good try of it. Taxes ear marked for the Feds go instead to state coffers.

That's California, Texas isn't even in a drought.

Texans would have to accept a big drop in standard of living.

Hard for any country to go it alone. Globalization and free trade are the rule these days.

Why?

Their economy wouldn't shit and all their infrastructure/homes wouldn't vanish because the US took it away from them any more than the EU is going to bulldoze then firebomb the UK for leaving.
 
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No, they don't do some HW. Those bases belong to Texas and are leased out to the USG.



Temporary issue.



They don't give a fuck. They would educate their own how they see fit, not how NYC or LA sees fit.



They already have one....and it's very well equipped.



You don't even know that TX has it's own military, power grid etc. etc. and all sorts of shit like they have been planning to leave the union since they joined it.



What's that got to do with the fact that TX would be just fine without NY, CA and other control freak libz like you trying to micromanage them?

Actually, it the Conservatives that want large government, controlling what you teach, how you have sex, control a woman's body, beg for disaster funds and vote NO when NY finally needs them after years of NY sending them to TX and other southern states.
 
No, they don't do some HW. Those bases belong to Texas and are leased out to the USG.



Temporary issue.



They don't give a fuck. They would educate their own how they see fit, not how NYC or LA sees fit.



They already have one....and it's very well equipped.



You don't even know that TX has it's own military, power grid etc. etc. and all sorts of shit like they have been planning to leave the union since they joined it.



What's that got to do with the fact that TX would be just fine without NY, CA and other control freak libz like you trying to micromanage them?

You do realize that if Texas secedes, ALL the weapons issued to the National Guard and Reserve are returned to the US Government, right?
 
July 5, 2016


Texas has $7 billion in a rainy day fund.


Texas does not want to pay for the children placed under Texas care.
How much does Texas spend on trying to put planned Parenthood out of business ?
How much money does Texas spend on harassing abortion providers ?
What will happen to children born, because women cannot get birth control, cannot get pre natal care, cannot get safe abortion ?

July 8, 2016

June 30, Gov. Greg Abbott, Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick, and House Speaker Joe Straus sent a message to all state agencies: Expect to see your funding cut by 4% in the upcoming biennium, and prepare your draft budgets accordingly.


It's even bleaker news for Child Protect*ive Services and the foster care system, which will budget for current funding plus projected caseload growth. However, this comes aftera federal judge ruled last year that the state's foster system was so dismal that it violated the constitutional rights of children in its care. Judge Janis Jack hammered the state for having too few caseworkers and paying them poorly, leading to burnout and massive turnover. Howard said she is still hearing on the House side that there has to be reform of both the foster system and school finance, "but how we do that without funding remains to be seen."

http://www.austinchronicle.com/news/2016-07-08/belt-tightening-season-for-state-agencies/


http://www.sacurrent.com/the-daily/...providers-wait-in-limbo-as-medicaid-cuts-loom


Three weeks before Texas officials plan to slash funding for a program that pays for speech, physical and occupational therapy for children with disabilities, Democrats in the Texas House are asking the Obama administration to intervene.

If these cuts are implemented as proposed statewide, it is estimated that 60,000 severely disabled pediatric patients could lose access to medically necessary services,” state Rep. Donna Howard, D-Austin, said in a statement. “It has become clear that our Republican state leaders are unwilling to stand up for disabled children.”

https://www.texastribune.org/2016/06/23/texas-democrats-ask-feds-intervene-therapy-cuts/

Medical solution not good enough.
Another burden planned for abortion providers.

July 6, 2016

In a new effort to regulate abortion providers, Texas health officials are proposing rules that would require abortion providers to cremate or bury fetal remains.

With little notice and no announcement, the proposed rules were published in the Texas Register on July 1, triggering a 30-day public comment period.

https://www.texastribune.org/2016/07/06/texas-wants-aborted-fetuses-be-buried-or-cremated/

Unelected Texas Bureaucrats Have Opened a New Front in the War Against Abortion Providers

The fetal-remains amendments to the health code appeared in the Texas Register on July 1, which triggered a 30-day period for public comment

The proposal would no longer allow abortion providers to dispose of fetal tissue as medical waste in sanitary landfills.


The rules would apply to all fetal remains, regardless of gestation stage.


gsgs comment- Will the women's health clinic be required to buy an electron microscope, to find the split cells ?


http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/07/texas-bural-cremation-fetus
 
Actually, it the Conservatives that want large government, controlling what you teach, how you have sex, control a woman's body, beg for disaster funds and vote NO when NY finally needs them after years of NY sending them to TX and other southern states.

That's Republicans which are really just democrats with 'conservative' rhetoric.

The vast majority of conservatives don't give a flying fuckin' shit about any of that, they just want you, the social justice warriors and the nanny state to fuck off and leave them alone.

You do realize that if Texas secedes, ALL the weapons issued to the National Guard and Reserve are returned to the US Government, right?

So?

You act like that would disarm the state of Texas....who builds a large variety of weapons for the USG. From F-22's to battle ships, uparmored fighting vehicles and ICBM's. Small arms?LOL Texas got plenty of small arms. Hell I think the mass of Texans in the US military would bounce the fuck out and head home.

Shit the citizenry is better armed than just about any other military other than a handful of elite troops from maybe half a dozen countries. We got full auto, destructive devices, silencers, ANPVS-7D's/14's, bore sighted IR lasers, smart thermoptic scopes that land perfect shots in the dark/weather from impossible distances.

We got all sorts of hot shit in Texas :D

If there were to be a separation, let's just say Texit happened and Texas decided fuck it they were going at it on their own, it would be in EVERYONE'S best interest to be as diplomatic about it as possible.
 
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That's Republicans which are really just democrats with 'conservative' rhetoric.

The vast majority of conservatives don't give a flying fuckin' shit about any of that, they just want you, the social justice warriors and the nanny state to fuck off and leave them alone.



So?

You act like that would disarm the state of Texas....who builds a large variety of weapons for the USG. From F-22's to battle ships, uparmored fighting vehicles and ICBM's. Small arms?LOL Texas got plenty of small arms. Hell I think the mass of Texans in the US military would bounce the fuck out and head home.


Shit the citizenry is better armed than just about any other military other than a handful of elite troops from maybe half a dozen countries. We got full auto, destructive devices, silencers, ANPVS-7D's/14's, bore sighted IR lasers, smart thermoptic scopes that land perfect shots in the dark/weather from impossible distances.

We got all sorts of hot shit in Texas :D

If there were to be a separation, let's just say Texit happened and Texas decided fuck it they were going at it on their own, it would be in EVERYONE'S best interest to be as diplomatic about it as possible.

Are you really so arrogantly blind that you don't realize that Texas builds absolutely nothing, zero, zilch for the U.S. government? Private companies under U.S. contract IN Texas do. Do you really believe that if Texas secedes the US government will allow them to keep those manufacturing facilities in Texas and in operation? Texas will not only loose the military bases, not the land and buildings of course but EVERYTHING ELSE, which includes all the troops and equipment that make up those bases, along with all the peripheral support infrastructure, but will also loose ALL manufacturing facilities and factories involved in production of military hardware and weapons for the U.S. government. ALL. Every last one of them.

And while I'm sure the citizenry of Texas is very well armed, I don' believe it is any where close to what an actual military would require. If you still insist that is true, please supply some type of proof. Opinions aren't valid as fact btw.

And I take it by your last paragraph that you believe Texas could put the hurt on the U.S. military if shit hits the fan? Really? And how did that work out the last time? You know, 1861-1865? Not so well for Texas if history is to be believed.

I don't think it would ever get to that, ever. No matter how many arrogant strutting assholes insist it might. You keep right on dreaming, keep right on walking that school boy strut and talking that school boy trash. I believe there are to many intelligent people on both sides to let it get any where close to that.

I do believe it was said earlier in this thread: someone didn't think this through.

nuff said.


Comshaw
 
Are you really so arrogantly blind that you don't realize that Texas builds absolutely nothing, zero, zilch for the U.S. government? Private companies under U.S. contract IN Texas do. Do you really believe that if Texas secedes the US government will allow them to keep those manufacturing facilities in Texas and in operation?Texas will not only loose the military bases, not the land and buildings of course but EVERYTHING ELSE, which includes all the troops and equipment that make up those bases, along with all the peripheral support infrastructure,but will also loose ALL manufacturing facilities and factories involved in production of military hardware and weapons for the U.S. government. ALL. Every last one of them.

And while I'm sure the citizenry of Texas is very well armed, I don' believe it is any where close to what an actual military would require. If you still insist that is true, please supply some type of proof. Opinions aren't valid as fact btw.

And I take it by your last paragraph that you believe Texas could put the hurt on the U.S. military if shit hits the fan? Really? And how did that work out the last time? You know, 1861-1865? Not so well for Texas if history is to be believed.

I don't think it would ever get to that, ever. No matter how many arrogant strutting assholes insist it might. You keep right on dreaming, keep right on walking that school boy strut and talking that school boy trash. I believe there are to many intelligent people on both sides to let it get any where close to that.

I do believe it was said earlier in this thread: someone didn't think this through.

nuff said.


Comshaw

1) We have the facilities, materials and the tech...they can't stop us from building our own after they GTFO.

2) When was the last time the military took anything except people and sensitive items? Never....they would leave all sorts of shit. It would be cheaper to just leave it in Texas and commission some new units that have been rotting for the past XX years.

3) Texas has it's own military so it wouldn't even lose out that hard. That's right, they answer to the Gov, not POTUS and they belong to Texas, not the USA.

4) It's not 1865.

5) I don't have any proof of arms except what I've seen and it's a hell of a lot meaner than what CA/NY is packin'.

6) I didn't say it would come to an armed conflict and even said if a separation were to happen it would bee in everyone's best interest to keep it diplomatic.


As for the separation? Oh I think it's totally possible for a Texit movement to pick up steam. Few bad social plays by the liberals, have Clinton shit on their economy in the name of some social justice shit then drop a million Syrians off in Houston and Dallas? LOL watch that fucker come unglued :D

Shit is going to be UUUUUUUUUUUGH LEEEE!!
 
1) We have the facilities, materials and the tech...they can't stop us from building our own after they GTFO.

2) When was the last time the military took anything except people and sensitive items? Never....they would leave all sorts of shit. It would be cheaper to just leave it in Texas and commission some new units that have been rotting for the past XX years.

3) Texas has it's own military so it wouldn't even lose out that hard. That's right, they answer to the Gov, not POTUS and they belong to Texas, not the USA.

4) It's not 1865.

5) I don't have any proof of arms except what I've seen and it's a hell of a lot meaner than what CA/NY is packin'.

6) I didn't say it would come to an armed conflict and even said if a separation were to happen it would bee in everyone's best interest to keep it diplomatic.


As for the separation? Oh I think it's totally possible for a Texit movement to pick up steam. Few bad social plays by the liberals, have Clinton shit on their economy in the name of some social justice shit then drop a million Syrians off in Houston and Dallas? LOL watch that fucker come unglued :D

Shit is going to be UUUUUUUUUUUGH LEEEE!!


1) you seem to think that will be a simple thing. Uh hu, sure. Besides you don't have shit, the company that manufactures the stuff does. What do think will happen when the government gives them the ultimatum, move or loose the contract? Yea, they'll just stay right where they are and loose a billion dollar contract. And pigs fly too.

2) They'll just walk away from the armor, aircraft, artillery and other stuff? You really are delusional.

3) That's funny. I assume you're talking about the National Guard? You do realize the U.S. Government owns all the equipment the guard uses? If you're referring to some other "Militia" I'll thank you to show a few facts on it for verification.

4) No it isn't 1865, but those who ignore history are destined to repeat it.

5) "I don't have any proof of arms...." of course you don't.

6) So now you're side stepping? You didn't say it, you inferred it.

"If there were to be a separation, let's just say Texit happened and Texas decided fuck it they were going at it on their own, it would be in EVERYONE'S best interest to be as diplomatic about it as possible."

Anyone with half a brain can see the veiled threat in that statement.

I still believe it won't happen, or even get close. There are to many sensible people in Texas to counteract the half brained dip shits that would push this.
It's much like governor Abbot's call for a constitutional convention. It's bullshit camouflaged in red white and blue.


My last thoughts on it? This guy MUST be a Texit backer:

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Comshaw
 
1)If China can do it so can Texas.

2)We left BAZZLLIONS worth of it in Iraq, Vietnam and every other place we've taken our gear. Why do you think Texas would be different? :confused:


3) You must not understand. Like their own power grid Texas has their own military. They answer to the governor and belong to the people of Texas, not the POTUS and the people of the US.

https://tmd.texas.gov/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_Military_Forces


4) That may be true but it's not guaranteed, especially with the circumstances so drastically different.

5)No, but I'd still bet the 65' Jazzmaster Texas has more guns than any other state. Certainly more privately owned full auto/destructive devices.

6) A proposed hypothetical is not an inference or a threat, it's called theory crafting or bullshitting.

I still believe it won't happen, or even get close.

Everyone said the same thing about Brexit "OHHHHHHH bullshit it will NEVER happen!!" ...........and then it did.

Turns out the British aren't huge fans of globalist bureaucrats from other countries thousands of miles away micromanaging their lives, fucking their pocket books and shitting on their culture. What a bunch of lunatics!! I mean who doesn't like some elitist commie from another country (state) telling them how to wipe their own ass? I know Texas is extra happy and very satisfied with that situation.

If history does repeat itself, the globalist control freak communist shit heads running the show now are in deep fuckin' shit. :D
 
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