Texas, WTF ?

HSAs mostly, but lets not pretend that those laws were set by government busy bodies, they were set by people protecting their homes and forced the government to get into goddamn line.

I've never had it happen to me, seen it happen, your the first person I've even heard claim they got in trouble for working on their car in their yard. I'll take your word for it that it happens but never around me.

If the government is enforcing them and collecting the $$ they are for all intents and purposes set by the government.

Not in my yard, my garage with the door open. I was building race cars then and occasionally did side work at home, and of course the government can't have that happening! California and their epic hatred of poor people won't allow any of that to go on....no sir!

San Diego ;)

In San Diego if your house looks anything short of picturesque at any time, or if you decided to do something as heinous as put an unapproved piece of decor or plants in YOUR yard they send Deputy Dickweed out to fuck your shit up. I'm surprised they didn't SWAT me, beat my families ass and kill every family pet they could find when I had an engine laid out in a thousand bits in the driveway. :D

Because they ARE having problems.

Not with you. If you're not causing problems and they don't have any reason to believe you are they don't NEED to fuck with you.

It's irresponsible to trust people that you don't know with things that are important. Hell it's irresponsible to trust people that you DO know with things that are important. I wouldn't let my mother due my taxes without at least checking up on them later and she's better at math than me, has more complicated taxes and is literally twice my age and working four times as long as I have been and I still would look that shit over! It's mind boggling.

I wouldn't either, because I can't hold mom accountable. My CPA however I can and I pay for the service because IDK a whole lot about it. I just can't do modern life all by myself. So I have to trust my CPA to have their best interest at heart and not compromise me. And as long as they don't give the government a reason to fuck with them I don't see any reason why they should.
 
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They aren't collecting fines, they just won't let you rob your neighbors and I have a hard time getting annoyed by that. My father and brother are both in Real Estate. Your dildo unicorn, or broken down clunker drives down my property value. I can't even move effectively because you've already taken the money out of my pocket at that point. I'm sorry that's well under the fuck you clause. The government is the ones doing it, but not because they arbitrarily decided something. People were sick and tired of jack asses fucking things up. Yes, if you live in a neighborhood that is worth a damn you best take care of your shit. Don't like it move to mars. It's like showing up to work in ragged jeans and a wife beater. You don't like to cut your hair and at least wear a polo shirt? You best get a job where people don't have to look at you.

Even side work but I suppose that's a little different than my car. And I meant my garage, driveway or the stretch of curb that while legally the cities still "belongs to me." as long as I'm not stupid enough to pour oil down the drain I can wave at cops, sometimes they'll come over and talk because apparently having a Crown Vic makes us all brothers n shit. (Some are clearly checking my tags too but hey.)

How do they know I'm not causing problems? Does every single person who's ID has been stolen have a list of everywhere they've shopped and magically I've never been on any list ever? How do they know I'm even in basic compliance with. . .ANYTHING?! I could be working out of my garage for all they know! I'm glad they don't fuck with me, but that's irresponsible.

If I pay for my taxes I still ask them to explain shit. Half the time just so they think I understand what they just said. But yes I trust professionals do their job. I also trust that someone fucking checks their credentials! That the guy who works at my pharmacy didn't walk in off the street and put on a white coat. I know it makes no difference to you because your smart enough to tell instantly if these pills are the wrong ones but I'm not. I suck at chemistry, it involves math.

Lets move this to a real life scenario. BP spill. Based on what we know was that a "shit happens we can't get pissed" scenario or was that a "your shit wasn't properly constructed and you should have known." thing.

If it was the latter is the fact that the inspectors were known friends who accepted gifts and fairly obviously weren't doing their jobs a) a problem or b) since the rig had never catastrophically failed obviously it would be stupid to inconvience them?

(In my business they could literally do the inspectrion from the doorway. They wouldn't even have to fully enter so I'm a terribad example on that. It would be

Dude looks left "Yup, he has a security system."
Dude looks right "Yup, he has a safe to store sensitive material.
Dude steps forward "No wait, he's obviously got a computer and the internet, or if he doesn't I'd rather not know."
Dude leaves.

For most people it would obviously be more complicated. For me this is a classic case of "why the fuck do we even pay you. You are not doing your job. At all. Ever. You're a worthless fuck."
 
They aren't collecting fines,

I'm sorry that's well under the fuck you clause.

Don't like it move to mars.

I'm rather certain I got hate male and paid the country. The sheriffs department is the muscle/collections department for the HOA.

Right, fuck me because only my neighbors should get to decorate my house or decide what I get to do in/with it. I can't deal, it's fuckin' bullshit. If I own it I should be able to do what I want with it.

Don't need to, just have to leave the big CA cities. Shit if I left CA it would practically be taking the corporate shackles off.

How do they know I'm not causing problems? How do they know I'm even in basic compliance with. . .ANYTHING?!

They don't.

I also trust that someone fucking checks their credentials!

Really? You do? After everything you just said about how they dont??LOL

If it's important to me, I ask to see them. Because I don't trust the government to do that.

Lets move this to a real life scenario. BP spill. Based on what we know was that a "shit happens we can't get pissed" scenario or was that a "your shit wasn't properly constructed and you should have known." thing.

Who cares? Clean the shit up, put them on probation for the next 20 years and inspect them if negligence seems to be the problem set them up for uber inspection regiment.

If it was a legit accident that no inspections would have prevented (water spout in a freak hurricane that blasted a rig) then just clean the shit up.

(In my business they could literally do the inspectrion from the doorway. They wouldn't even have to fully enter so I'm a terribad example on that. It would be

Dude looks left "Yup, he has a security system."
Dude looks right "Yup, he has a safe to store sensitive material.
Dude steps forward "No wait, he's obviously got a computer and the internet, or if he doesn't I'd rather not know."
Dude leaves.

That would be nice. I get tied down spread eagle and made to squeal like a pig, but I am producing food so I get it to some extent. But I don't understand the frequency sometimes especially when uberAg, the people actually doing fucked up shit, never get touched.

I just write it off as more government evil....fuck Monsanto even made Obama their bitch, I'm nobody. They can just USDA/EPA/FDA me to death if they wanted.

For me this is a classic case of "why the fuck do we even pay you. You are not doing your job. At all. Ever. You're a worthless fuck."

We live in practically opposite universes. For me I just see UberAg goons, just itching to find a violation or get the legal rights to the plants I'm growing so they can take me to court and clean me out.

I'm not far off from just rolling up shop and getting into far less regulated everything.

Ornamentals, with few exceptions are practically unregulated....nobody gives a shit.

It's a little less stable as far as the economy goes (everyone always buys food, not so much with flowers during hard times) but it comes with pretty much NONE of the hassle. So I'd be doing a whole lot more working to live and a lot less living to work. Which oddly is kinda terrifying, in a mostly positive way, but still terrifying.
 
Unless you know more about creditials in any given business than I do you're still trusting. I mean I have a printed piece of paper on my wall. Real nice thick paper. But I could make it a CopyMax if I wanted to. I do have to trust that people are doing their jobs.

I don't see why fuck Monsanto. I mean fuck government looking into people amirite? If one day seeds get spread on your land and now you have no seeds tough shit.

I gets some of your complaints. I really do. I don't think more than once a year is cool for just about anything. That's got to be overkill. I like knowing that people are doing their jobs. If they aren't we should find something else for them to do. (Note: I think the job of the police is to maintain safety and order. Driving around and waving at kids is awesome. Nobody should be fucking with you smoking pot on your curb).

I loathe busy work.
 
I don't see why fuck Monsanto. I mean fuck government looking into people amirite? If one day seeds get spread on your land and now you have no seeds tough shit.

There is no fuck Monsanto.

What we have now WITH the government is they don't even have to wait for you to not have seeds, they just have to pollinate your crop and they take everything form you.

THANKS OBAMA!

When I should be able to sue them for damaging my crops.

I loathe busy work.

It's the worst.
 
They would have done that anyhow. We've heard those stories for years and nobody gave two shits.

You should be able to take them for all your lost income, and percent of future income. It's horrific.
 
They would have done that anyhow. We've heard those stories for years and nobody gave two shits.

Not on their own...they had to buy a LOT of congressional support to make their program happen.

You should be able to take them for all your lost income, and percent of future income. It's horrific.

Should, in a just world that's how it would work.

But you let government take control over entire industries and this is what you get...EVERY fuckin' time. Greed is eternal and the only way to stop it is to keep it separated.
 
The stories I heard were that even prior to that they did that, and sold a lot of seed to poor (mostly foreign) farmers who didn't know the fruits (or whatever I didn't pay attention to what they were growing) were sterile and worse. But they couldn't prove it or a lot of times they were in states that have Loser Pay laws and when Monsanto has Mr. Big show up to you and explain he charges 10k a day here are your court papers, by the way today is a once in a lifetime "handshake pay off day" people took it. Because they had no choice. (I know I know, there is always a choice.)

The government didn't take over the industry. Like at all. They are in bed with it. I would argue that's quite possibly the worst case scenario. With one or the other you can always play the halves against the center but once they team up you've kinda run out of options.

The Inspector is coming should be a phrase treated akin to Winter is coming. Not "oh, tell Mike I put on on the grill for him, and not "hahahahahahahhaha, tell him to bring his friend Bigfoot."
 
The stories I heard were that even prior to that they did that, and sold a lot of seed to poor (mostly foreign) farmers who didn't know the fruits (or whatever I didn't pay attention to what they were growing) were sterile and worse. But they couldn't prove it or a lot of times they were in states that have Loser Pay laws and when Monsanto has Mr. Big show up to you and explain he charges 10k a day here are your court papers, by the way today is a once in a lifetime "handshake pay off day" people took it. Because they had no choice. (I know I know, there is always a choice.)

Oh man they've been using an army of soulless lawyers wringing every bit of manipulation they can out of the law for over a hundred years. Day one they were out for blood and have never for one second let up.

The government didn't take over the industry. Like at all. They are in bed with it.

Yea they are in bed with it same difference.

Bottom line is that Monsanto simply COULD NOT do what they do if they didn't get to use the USDA/FDA/EPA and all the other agencies in other countries as their personal goon squads to go fuck farmer Janes and Joes up with laws THEY get to write. Our government has gone so fucking mafia in several MAJOR areas it's just over the fucking top.

And it doesn't have to be that way if we didnt' all seem to love it so much.

I mean god damn Democrats confuse the shit out of me.....they say they want to stick it to the 1% and then they turn around and help them fuck the 99% even harder, every god damn time. Just pretend it never happened and do it again.

Unbelievable....I can't wait to escape to where nobody gives a fuck.

I would argue that's quite possibly the worst case scenario. With one or the other you can always play the halves against the center but once they team up you've kinda run out of options.

Yea ....which is why I've always said until we cut congress and POTUS off from private/special interest, make them true public servants. Well paid and privileged but absolutely forbidden from taking so much as a penny in cash or value from anyone for anything outside of family inheritance. Otherwise the beatings will continue until morale improves.

The Inspector is coming should be a phrase treated akin to Winter is coming. Not "oh, tell Mike I put on on the grill for him, and not "hahahahahahahhaha, tell him to bring his friend Bigfoot."

It always worries me. That pencil neck can shut me down for violating wetlands if it rains to hard if he/she wants. So I try not to piss anyone off, it's ok thought I just gotta hang on for a few years and then the only food I'll be growing is mine.

Out of curiosity, how many commenters live in Texas?

I spent the better part of a decade there.
 
NPR catches up to the textbook story

September 14, 2016

Some scholars on the subject say that the textbook, "Mexican American Heritage," is riddled with factual errors, is missing content and promotes racism and culturally offensive stereotypes, such as Mexicans being lazy, not valuing hard work and bringing crime and drugs into the United States.

gsgs comment-

Texas

One of the largest markets for learning materials with five million students
This is not the first time, that horrible mis- representations have been found in Texas textbooks for school children.

/end gsgs comment

Tony Diaz, a writer and activist known as El Librotraficante, says there's a silver lining to this latest controversy.

"We actually caught this terrible, racist book before it snaked its way into classrooms. This is part of the growing pains," Diaz says.

He explains that it's become easier to review proposed materials online before they reach the board for approval. And activism has grown. Diaz organized a bus caravan for 100 people to protest in Austin this week.

http://www.npr.org/sections/ed/2016...alled-out-as-racist-against-mexican-americans


Activists Urge Texas Board Of Education To Reject Text Book On Mexican-Americans
SEPTEMBER 12, 2016
Updated

Activists Urge Texas Board Of Education To Reject Text Book On Mexican-Americans

They say it is inaccurate and portrays members of that community in an unjust way.
esús Cantú Medel, who leads a local chapter of that organization, says the education commissioners should stick to their mission.

“They must use prudent and educationally sound decisions that will not offend us today or in the future, especially with regards to the minds of our youth, who aspire to pursue academic study to enhance their cultural understanding of the Mexican-American community,” Cantú Medel noted at a press conference held in front of Houston’s City Hall.


("Mexican American Heritage" is a horrible mishmash of lies, racism, misinformation, inaccurate claims, confused and mistaken ideas, that is pretending to be a text book. Simple Instructional Material: Proclamation 2017 The "book" should have a warning sticker on the cover. No Facts Included! Suitable for Adult Wingnuts and the Adult Alt- Right.)

SEPTEMBER 6, 2016
updated

A new report on a controversial, proposed textbook has given it a failing grade, calling it “flatly incorrect and offensive on many occasions.”

"There’s no way this textbook can be corrected. The errors are so extensive and the reason it can’t be corrected is because it’s really not a textbook. It is a polemic,” said Trinidad Gonzales, a history professor at South Texas College in McAllen and member of the American Historical Association.


"If a student is to accept what the textbook argues, and they’re Latino, then they have to reject their family and community as having any value towards the development of the United States,” Gonzales said.

https://www.houstonpublicmedia.org/...roversial-mexican-american-studies-book-an-f/

July 19, 2016

"The textbook not only insults Mexican Americans, but also African Americans and other people of color," Moreno said. "Every parent and taxpayer should take offense that such a poorly researched and written textbook would even be considered for use in Texas public schools.”

The text also whitewashes the Civil War by arguing that state rights — not slavery — was the root cause of the conflict. It goes on to say that forcing civil rights on southerners failed to protect former slaves not because of racism, but, rather, because white southerners were disenfranchised after the war.

(Where did the author get an idea, like that ?)

"Mexican American Heritage" was written by Jamie Riddle and Valerie Angle and published by Momentum Instruction, which is operated by former state board member Cynthia Dunbar. While on the board, Dunbar refuted the educational necessity of teaching students about the separation of church and state and lobbied for creationist arguments over evolutionary fact. In 2008, Dunbar published a book called One Nation Under God that described public education as a deceptive tool of perversion, calling public schools tyrannical and unconstitutional.

http://www.sacurrent.com/the-daily/...can-studies-textbook-inaccurate-and-offensive

Religious nutcases involved in politics ?


Dunbar urged legislators to get involved in education in order to stop the “deception of the seed” by “our socialized education system"

“I believe it’s a crucial issue for several reasons,” she said. “One, it’s what I call the seed policy, if you think about it, every major social issue you’re encountering as legislators actually directs back to what it talks about it in Genesis, ‘if I would put enmity between you and the seed of the woman.’ Because what happens, what is abortion? Abortion is the destruction of the seed. What is homosexuality? It is the prevention of the seed. And what is education? It is potential deception of the seed.”

“And so when we have 88 to 90 percent, which is approximately the number of the students that are being educated within our socialized education system, effectively indoctrinating our children with our own tax dollars, guess what?” she asked. “We lose every other issue. We lose life, we lose marriage, we lose all of it. So I think this is the linchpin issue.”

Dunbar also put in a plug for teaching public school kids Barton’s signature spin on American history, saying that the “brilliant” Barton had discovered that “94 percent of the quotes of the founding fathers” were “either directly or indirectly” related to the Bible.

http://www.rightwingwatch.org/conte...ducation-system-and-homosexualitys-prevention

What is the NCBCPS ?

Someone noticed what the National Council on Bible Curriculum in Public Schools has been doing.

book

"The Good News Club: The Christian Right's Stealth Assault on America's Children"

The Club, which is sponsored by the Child Evangelism Fellowship, bills itself as an after-school program of “Bible study.” But Stewart soon discovered that the Club’s real mission is to convert children to fundamentalist Christianity and encourage them to proselytize to their “unchurched” peers, all the while promoting the natural but false impression among the children that its activities are endorsed by the school.

Astonished to discover that the U.S. Supreme Court has deemed this—and other forms of religious activity in public schools—legal, Stewart set off on an investigative journey to dozens of cities and towns across the nation to document the impact. In this book she demonstrates that there is more religion in America’s public schools today than there has been for the past 100 years. The movement driving this agenda is stealthy. It is aggressive. It has our children in its sights. And its ultimate aim is to destroy the system of public education as we know it.

https://books.google.com/books?id=W...ng+fathers+quotes+bible&source=gbs_navlinks_s

Satanists activism to oppose Evangelical Christian activism in schools

Department of Education can only ban clubs that encourage discrimination, and the temple's seven fundamental tenets include such reasonable beliefs as "One should strive to act with compassion and empathy towards all creatures in accordance with reason" and "One’s body is inviolable, subject to one’s own will alone."

(Good messages to combat the Evangelical Christian messages, that split an egalitarian atmosphere of Americans, to Evangelical Chistian message, that announces that anyone who does not join is inferior, and an outsider in their own school, and not deserving of compassion or empathy, and preaches that church officials have the right to beat you, abuse you, and violate you. Because God/god.)



http://gothamist.com/2016/08/03/satan_club_after_school.php


Child Evangelism Fellowship (CEF) and has proliferated in schools after a U.S. Supreme Court decision allowed such groups to use public school facilities — brings evangelical Christianity to elementary-school children as young as kindergartners.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/loca...ea1558-581a-11e6-9aee-8075993d73a2_story.html
 
Texas Put Under Court Supervision After Lying to Voters About Illegal ID

Back in July, the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 5th Circuit ruled that Texas’ draconian new voter ID requirements are illegal under the federal Voting Rights Act because they discriminate against minorities. In accordance with that decision, U.S. District Judge Nelva Gonzales Ramos forbade the state from enforcing the blocked law or disenfranchising voters who lack ID.

Mark Joseph Stern, author

But Texas quickly violated this court order by actively misleading voters about ID requirements in statements to the press and official voting materials. While Ramos ruled that voters could legally sign an affidavit swearing they could not reasonably obtain ID, Texas officials implied that they would criminally investigate “everyone who signs that form.” Ramos also ordered Texas to educate voters about their ability to vote without an ID if they cannot “reasonably obtain it.” Yet the state recast Ramos’ language, declaring in its educational materials that only voters who cannot obtain ID at all may sign the affidavit. As the Justice Department noted in a complaint, this “inaccurate” and “misleading information” suggests that voters who would face a heavy burden in obtaining an approved ID—but could still theoretically get one—must still present an ID to vote.


And then there are the outright lies. As voting rights expert Ari Berman has documented, some Texas election officials are simply deceiving voters and poll workers, informing them that photo ID is still required to cast a ballot.


In response, Ramos took the remarkable step on Tuesday of putting Texas under court supervision.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slat...court_supervision_for_flouting_id_ruling.html

September 21, 2016

Judge Ramos’ Tuesday, order, by contrast, requires Texas to take several specific actions. It also subjects Texas to a kind of federal supervision similar to the oversight it faced before conservatives on the Supreme Court gutted a key provision of the Voting Rights Act.

https://thinkprogress.org/texas-def...the-court-s-not-happy-f9e6427dbb42#.2tjbl2bdp


http://blog.chron.com/kuffsworld/20...te-to-reword-its-voter-id-outreach-materials/


Judge orders Texas to correct voter ID education materials
David Saleh Rauf, author

September 20, 2016

Judge orders Texas to correct voter ID education materials

Also, the judge Tuesday denied a motion from minority groups suing the state that stemmed from recent statements made to the press by Attorney General Ken Paxton and Harris County's chief election official Stan Stanart, a Republican.

The groups accused Paxton and Stanart of trying to intimidate voters in the press by saying those who use an affidavit process put in place under the voter ID court order could be subject to investigation. They had asked Ramos to issue an order to essentially prevent Texas officials from making future statements that "turn this Court's remedy into a threat."

http://www.houstonchronicle.com/new...hp?t=6c68f40e66438d9cbb&cmpid=twitter-premium
 
WTF ?

Texas!


City officials said a hacker accessed the system and repeatedly sounded the sirens. The sirens were first heard at about 11:45 p.m. and sounded on and off intermittently for about an hour. Rocky Vaz, the director of the city’s Office of Emergency Management, said all 156 of the city sirens were hacked and activated, Dallas Morning News reported.

Dallas City Fire and Rescue had to visit each individual siren site to manually turn them off. All sirens were completely shut off by 1:20 a.m. City officials said that Dallas 911 received 800 calls during a fifteen minute period around midnight.

http://www.salon.com/2017/04/08/sound-the-alarm-hacker-sets-off-emergency-warning-sirens-in-dallas/
 
I live in Texas. Love it. Work lets me travel all over the U.S. Love. Love. Love. Texas.

I was born and raised in Texas. It has gone off the deep end. Dial ICE to report your neighbor, the head of Agriculture referring to HRC as a cunt in a tweet, Gohmert proclaiming if HRC had won she would have jailed all conservatives, the governor legislating that all women who have abortions or miscarriages bury the remains, etc etc. And that's just the tip of the iceberg in the great state of Texas.
 
I was born and raised in Texas. It has gone off the deep end. Dial ICE to report your neighbor, the head of Agriculture referring to HRC as a cunt in a tweet, Gohmert proclaiming if HRC had won she would have jailed all conservatives, the governor legislating that all women who have abortions or miscarriages bury the remains, etc etc. And that's just the tip of the iceberg in the great state of Texas.

I don't believe the women who have abortions performed or who miscarry have to personally dispose of the remains. The facility where the woman or girl goes would have to do so, just as they have to dispose of all medical waste in a sanitary manner.

What's wrong with calling HRC a cunt, especially if it's said privately? That's a normal insulting term for a woman and is covered by the First Amendment.
 
I don't believe the women who have abortions performed or who miscarry have to personally dispose of the remains. The facility where the woman or girl goes would have to do so, just as they have to dispose of all medical waste in a sanitary manner.

What's wrong with calling HRC a cunt, especially if it's said privately? That's a normal insulting term for a woman and is covered by the First Amendment.

First Amendment: Your comment is too stupid to give serious consideration to, and fuck off.
 
I don't believe the women who have abortions performed or who miscarry have to personally dispose of the remains. The facility where the woman or girl goes would have to do so, just as they have to dispose of all medical waste in a sanitary manner.

What's wrong with calling HRC a cunt, especially if it's said privately? That's a normal insulting term for a woman and is covered by the First Amendment.

Public officials are not afforded such luxuries.
 
Will fetus funerals be covered by Trumpcare?

Probably not. I believe there are some people who do conduct such "funerals" but, otherwise, I would expect the medical facility to dispose of the remains as they dispose of other medical waste.
 
So you believe in the Trump way of speaking: Be crude because you're famous and get away with it?

According to Post 215, it was a tweet, not a statement, and was a private communication. He is a crude man, but that has nothing to do with fame. Some unknown people are probably even cruder. I have described Trump as an asshole, which is pretty crude. Other people on the forum have said worse things about public figures.
 
According to Post 215, it was a tweet, not a statement, and was a private communication. He is a crude man, but that has nothing to do with fame. Some unknown people are probably even cruder. I have described Trump as an asshole, which is pretty crude. Other people on the forum have said worse things about public figures.

And that makes it right? Politicians love to believe they are better than us. Act like it.

And as for Texas, this was the state where when I visited, BOTH TIMES, I was harassed walking down the streets, first in Georgetown, the second in Round Rock, and both times I was told to go back to Mexico. Ignorance is a way of life with too many white males in the Hill Country it seems.
 
And that makes it right? Politicians love to believe they are better than us. Act like it.

And as for Texas, this was the state where when I visited, BOTH TIMES, I was harassed walking down the streets, first in Georgetown, the second in Round Rock, and both times I was told to go back to Mexico. Ignorance is a way of life with too many white males in the Hill Country it seems.

Well. it doesn't make it wrong. I have been harassed many times while walking down the street in Oakland. :eek:
 
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