Ted Lieu plays a clip of Candace Owens' comments on Hitler

[HisArpy]

I see this a lot on the GB and other places where dumb people like to gather, and I guess my question would be: why don't people in 2019 who are self-declared neo-Nazis likewise identify as liberals or leftists?

The 2017 clusterfuck in Charlottesville was called "Unite the Right" for a reason.

What people call themselves is irrelevant to the truth of their actions and words. In all probability, there are, or have been, murderers out there who call themselves "good". Just because they say that doesn't mean it's true.

 

[InsightRiot]

The amount of dumb by the Left in just this thread is cringe worthy.

"Nationalism" is not the same as "nazi-ism". It's not the same as "white supremacy" or "White Nationalism" or any of the other terms that the left has somehow conflated it with.

"Nationalism" is pride in one's country. Those other terms currently being used by the Left are not "nationalism". They are perjoratives used to disconnect the term from it's true root and use it for political means.

In essence, they are lies. And those here who tout those lies as meaningful are part of the real problem this country is facing right now.

Candace Owens did NOT say what Lieu and the rest are attempting to show. That is the truth. Anything else is mere political spin and hate. Not surprisingly, it's being generated by the Left against a minority who speaks against their "plan" for America. One has to wonder why.

Dude, we fucking live in Clown World! Clown World logic states that anything the Dems don't like is racist!

 

[zipman]

This thread is hysterical.

Owens is fuckwit who tried to backtrack from her comments on Hitler but failed miserably. She basically condoned Hitler killing German Jews.

Her backtracking is equally moronic. Hitler was absolutely a Nationalist who used genocide to support his dreams of Making Germany Great Again.

I think the right wingers who try and defend or deflect or call this out are fucking crazy if they think their alternative facts change anything.

Of course, those are the same fuckwads who cry that moderate muslims don't condemn extremism - and here they are defending/deflecting it at every opportunity.

Deplorables is actually too good of a term for you cunts.

 

[Carnal_Flower]

Candace said exactly what Lieu played: Hitler's "nationalism" [her word] would have been "fine" if he'd kept it confined to Germany. Btw she is the one who brought Hitler up in her quoted remarks.

Yes its true "Nationalism" is a somewhat generic term that CAN mean simply "pride in one's country." But ignoramus Owens obviously does not understand what HITLER'S "Nationalism" was all about. Saying it was completely benign until he started "globalizing" it is pure stupiity and ignorance.

She waded into territory she obviously did not understand and was way above her pay grade and she ended up trying to excuse nationalism by way of legitimizing Hitler whether she intended to or not. Thats what happens when a college dropout tries to take on topics over her head.

If you want to defend "Nationalism," invoking Hitler is probably not the way to go. Just a tip.

The amount of dumb by the Left in just this thread is cringe worthy.

"Nationalism" is not the same as "nazi-ism". It's not the same as "white supremacy" or "White Nationalism" or any of the other terms that the left has somehow conflated it with.

"Nationalism" is pride in one's country. Those other terms currently being used by the Left are not "nationalism". They are perjoratives used to disconnect the term from it's true root and use it for political means.

In essence, they are lies. And those here who tout those lies as meaningful are part of the real problem this country is facing right now.

Candace Owens did NOT say what Lieu and the rest are attempting to show. That is the truth. Anything else is mere political spin and hate. Not surprisingly, it's being generated by the Left against a minority who speaks against their "plan" for America. One has to wonder why.

 

[InsightRiot]

This thread is hysterical.

Owens is fuckwit who tried to backtrack from her comments on Hitler but failed miserably. She basically condoned Hitler killing German Jews.

Her backtracking is equally moronic. Hitler was absolutely a Nationalist who used genocide to support his dreams of Making Germany Great Again.

I think the right wingers who try and defend or deflect or call this out are fucking crazy if they think their alternative facts change anything.

Of course, those are the same fuckwads who cry that moderate muslims don't condemn extremism - and here they are defending/deflecting it at every opportunity.

Deplorables is actually too good of a term for you cunts.

I can't tell if you are trolling or if you are just really fucking retarded.

https://i.imgur.com/bMqQ7bc.jpg

 

[HisArpy]

Candace said exactly what Lieu played: Hitler's "nationalism" [her word] would have been "fine" if he'd kept it confined to Germany. Btw she is the one who brought Hitler up in her quoted remarks.

Yes its true "Nationalism" is a somewhat generic term that CAN mean simply "pride in one's country." But ignoramus Owens obviously does not understand what HITLER'S "Nationalism" was all about. Saying it was completely benign until he started "globalizing" it is pure stupiity and ignorance.

She waded into territory she obviously did not understand and was way above her pay grade and she ended up trying to excuse nationalism by way of legitimizing Hitler whether she intended to or not. Thats what happens when a college dropout tries to take on topics over her head.

If you want to defend "Nationalism," invoking Hitler is probably not the way to go. Just a tip.

The clip was edited and shortened so that the full context was not played. She was being ASKED about her views regarding Hitler. So, she didn't "bring it up", she was answering a question. And her answer was used to portray her in a different light than what actually happened because the clip was purposefully edited to do that.

CF, you are correct when you say "Nationalism Nationalism" is a somewhat generic term that CAN mean simply "pride in one's country". Where you miss the point is that the original definition is now being distorted to mean "nazi-ism" or "racism" or other derogatory terms.

Those things are not "nationalism". They are a false narrative being created to denounce those who feel pride about their country while those who use such connecting terms fail to see what they are truly saying.

For instance; "nationalism" somehow has morphed into "WHITE nationalism" because of the "racists" who believe in it.

I wonder how those in Asia or Africa or South America feel about their countries. I wonder if they take pride in their national origins. And, I wonder how they feel about the fact that being "nationalists" instantly transforms them from their birth ethnicities into being "white" just by having pride in one's country. Worse, I wonder how they feel about the fact that since they've been so transformed, they are now considered to be "violent" because of that new "whiteness".

The amount of stupid in the D thinking on this subject is just amazing. It's like you can't see past Trump's shadow to realize there's an entire world out there. A world where the things the Left says make NO SENSE whatsoever.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Candace said exactly what Lieu played: Hitler's "nationalism" [her word] would have been "fine" if he'd kept it confined to Germany.

And she was right.....nobody would have bothered them had he stayed in Germany.

This thread is hysterical.

Owens is fuckwit who tried to backtrack from her comments on Hitler but failed miserably. She basically condoned Hitler killing German Jews.

Her backtracking is equally moronic. Hitler was absolutely a Nationalist who used genocide to support his dreams of Making Germany Great Again.

I think the right wingers who try and defend or deflect or call this out are fucking crazy if they think their alternative facts change anything.

Of course, those are the same fuckwads who cry that moderate muslims don't condemn extremism - and here they are defending/deflecting it at every opportunity.

Deplorables is actually too good of a term for you cunts.

Oh look, Zippy can't read either.

I can't tell if you are trolling or if you are just really fucking retarded.

https://i.imgur.com/bMqQ7bc.jpg

They are idiots.

 

[HisArpy]

And she was right.....nobody would have bothered them had he stayed in Germany.

In modern terms, I believe that's called Balkanization.

 

[RobDownSouth]

In modern terms, I believe that's called Balkanization.

Could have arguably been called "Ethnic Cleansing" too.

 

[HisArpy]

Could have arguably been called "Ethnic Cleansing" too.

But it's not "WHITE supremacy" or whatever other term you want to use to try to connect it to "nationalism".

What you and the rest are trying to do is extend "nationalism" into "racism" on the basis of skin color or religious belief.

The reason you're doing this is so you can advance a narrative which fails at its core concepts. When those failures are pointed out, the only way out of the trap you set for yourself is to redefine words to mean something they do not.

Which has been pointed out again and again and again in several threads here. This is merely 1 more example of the same. "Nationalism" is not "racism" or "white [fill in the blank]" no matter how badly you want it to be just so you can point a finger at the political opposition.

 

[RobDownSouth]

But it's not "WHITE supremacy" or whatever other term you want to use to try to connect it to "nationalism".

What you and the rest are trying to do is extend "nationalism" into "racism" on the basis of skin color or religious belief.

The reason you're doing this is so you can advance a narrative which fails at its core concepts. When those failures are pointed out, the only way out of the trap you set for yourself is to redefine words to mean something they do not.

Which has been pointed out again and again and again in several threads here. This is merely 1 more example of the same. "Nationalism" is not "racism" or "white [fill in the blank]" no matter how badly you want it to be just so you can point a finger at the political opposition.

Hitler promoted "Aryan Supremacy" over Jews (you can nitpick whether Jews in Germany were considered a "race" or a "religion"). That's either racism or bigotry however you choose to view it.

Trump realized the majority of his supporters couldn't spell or pronounce "Aryan", so he simplified it to "White".

The nationalism espoused by the white nationalists (and their semi-white nationalist auxiliary) isn't a celebration of American culture. It's a reflexive reaction to multiculturalism, focusing on white culture to the exclusion of all others.

 

[zipman]

And she was right.....nobody would have bothered them had he stayed in Germany.

Who is them?

Oh look, Zippy can't read either.

They are idiots.

Really, what didn't I read correctly?

 

[BotanyBoy]

Who is them?

The Germans.

Really, what didn't I read correctly?

Anything that Owens said apparently.

This thread is hysterical.

Owens is fuckwit who tried to backtrack from her comments on Hitler but failed miserably. She basically condoned Hitler killing German Jews.

She did no such thing and did no backtracking.

She said a lot of morons think Hitler when they hear the word nationalism but that's incorrect.

And she's right.

Nationalism =/= ethno nationalism.

Nationalism =/= Nazism.

If you think otherwise you're a flaming fucking moron in desperate need of a basic education.

Her backtracking is equally moronic. Hitler was absolutely a Nationalist who used genocide to support his dreams of Making Germany Great Again.

She didn't backtrack, you might want to look that term up you keep using it incorrectly.

Hitler was an ethno-nationalist who went ethno-globalist.

That's not the same thing as a nationalist.

You really should look up what nationalism is.

I think the right wingers who try and defend or deflect or call this out are fucking crazy if they think their alternative facts change anything.

The only person operating with alternative facts is you.

You like the other ignorant lefties are conflating terms...almost certainly out of ignorance.

Again

Nationalism =/= ethno nationalism.

Nationalism =/= Nazism.

 

[Carnal_Flower]

Exactly. His so-called "Nationalism" was not about region but race. Have any of these lunkheads read a history book?

Hitler promoted "Aryan Supremacy" over Jews (you can nitpick whether Jews in Germany were considered a "race" or a "religion"). That's either racism or bigotry however you choose to view it.

Trump realized the majority of his supporters couldn't spell or pronounce "Aryan", so he simplified it to "White".

The nationalism espoused by the white nationalists (and their semi-white nationalist auxiliary) isn't a celebration of American culture. It's a reflexive reaction to multiculturalism, focusing on white culture to the exclusion of all others.

 

[BotanyBoy]

Exactly. His so-called "Nationalism" was not about region but race. Have any of these lunkheads read a history book?

That's why it's not nationalism.

Glad to see you agree with Candice Owens.

 

[Que]

Hitler promoted "Aryan Supremacy" over Jews (you can nitpick whether Jews in Germany were considered a "race" or a "religion"). That's either racism or bigotry however you choose to view it.

Trump realized the majority of his supporters couldn't spell or pronounce "Aryan", so he simplified it to "White".

The nationalism espoused by the white nationalists (and their semi-white nationalist auxiliary) isn't a celebration of American culture. It's a reflexive reaction to multiculturalism, focusing on white culture to the exclusion of all others.

Hitler had a dog.

 

[RobDownSouth]

Hitler had a dog.

^^^ and the push to "normalize" Hitler continues.

 

[BotanyBoy]

^^^ and the push to "normalize" Hitler continues.

Or Rob can't read and doesn't understand the reference....but more likely his dishonesty continues.

 

[Que]

I guess Boof's handy fallacy identification cheat sheet didn't contain that one.

 

[RobDownSouth]

I guess Boof's handy fallacy identification cheat sheet didn't contain that one.

I admit that between you, your alts and the two half-breed half-wits here, it's hard to keep up with teh steady stream of logical fallacies you guys churn out. A veritable tsunami of tshitpisting.

Off topic, but did you ever have any of your children vaccinated?

 

[Sean]

I really didn't know who Candace Owens was so I Gooogled. Apparently her qualifications for testifying before Congress is that she used to work for Vogue magazine?

 

[RobDownSouth]

I really didn't know who Candace Owens was so I Gooogled. Apparently her qualifications for testifying before Congress is that she used to work for Vogue magazine?

Her singular qualification seems to be that she is, to use the nifty phrase from The Root, "Racist White America's Black Friend".

 

[zipman]

Who is them?





Really, what didn't I read correctly?

You're a fucking moron. That you are even saying that other people can't read is priceless.

Candace Owens is a stupid cunt but you're right there to keep her company.

 

[HisArpy]

I really didn't know who Candace Owens was so I Gooogled. Apparently her qualifications for testifying before Congress is that she used to work for Vogue magazine?

I don't really know the ins and outs of the UK's system of government all that well, but HERE, you don't have to be "qualified" to testify. Congress sends you a subpoena and you show up to tell them what you know.

It can happen to anyone. Even someone who used to work for Vogue Magazine. IF she has information Congress wishes to know that is.

But, all of that aside, you know what the amazing part of all of this is? The committee asked her to tell them what she knows and then didn't bother to listen. Instead, they degraded her for it.

D's tend to show what they're made of when they have even a little bit of power. This is just one example of how they abuse that power.

 

[RobDownSouth]

I don't really know the ins and outs of the UK's system of government all that well, but HERE, you don't have to be "qualified" to testify. Congress sends you a subpoena and you show up to tell them what you know.

It can happen to anyone. Even someone who used to work for Vogue Magazine. IF she has information Congress wishes to know that is.

But, all of that aside, you know what the amazing part of all of this is? The committee asked her to tell them what she knows and then didn't bother to listen. Instead, they degraded her for it.

D's tend to show what they're made of when they have even a little bit of power. This is just one example of how they abuse that power.

Timmeh, you seem to know a lot of different things about a lot of different things, so perhaps you could shed some light on Ms. Owens' qualifications to lecture Congress?