sub Philosophy :

[WriterDom]

someone sent this to me and gave me permission to post it for comments.



My Philosophy :
I believe that one must be secure, emotionally strong and healthy in order to truly embrace this lifestyle without adverse effects and with true joy._ I think that many younger subs become burned out and emotionally spent because they do not pace themselves and do not fully understand the art and the gift of submission._ That is why older subs are so much more enticing and rich to possess....the surrender is more complete and more enriched. To surrender oneself is to truly be free and alive._ To give control to another is liberating, intoxicating and invigorating.__ The gift of surrender should only be given to one's equal and to one worthy.__ TO many subs give away their gift to quickly and to too many Dom's, thus diminishing their gift.
The balance and dance of D/s is subtle, sublime and serene._ There is not another such relationship that can compare._ The heights are beyond anything imagined........it is addictive and becomes part of your body, your needs, your being, and can not be denied for long before it screams out to be recognized.
I know, because I tried to deny it for too long. I can not anymore....I must admit, and submit....to submission

 

[dragonlace]

thank you for sharing

 

[MissTaken]

That is lovely, WD.

I am just wondering how others feel about this comment:

"The gift of surrender should only be given to one's equal and to one worthy.__

 

[s'lara]

someone sent this to me and gave me permission to post it for comments.



My Philosophy :
I believe that one must be secure, emotionally strong and healthy in order to truly embrace this lifestyle without adverse effects and with true joy._ I think that many younger subs become burned out and emotionally spent because they do not pace themselves and do not fully understand the art and the gift of submission._ That is why older subs are so much more enticing and rich to possess....the surrender is more complete and more enriched. To surrender oneself is to truly be free and alive._ To give control to another is liberating, intoxicating and invigorating.__ The gift of surrender should only be given to one's equal and to one worthy.__ TO many subs give away their gift to quickly and to too many Dom's, thus diminishing their gift.
The balance and dance of D/s is subtle, sublime and serene._ There is not another such relationship that can compare._ The heights are beyond anything imagined........it is addictive and becomes part of your body, your needs, your being, and can not be denied for long before it screams out to be recognized.
I know, because I tried to deny it for too long. I can not anymore....I must admit, and submit....to submission

Aside from dissing younger submissive's, it seemed like a heartfelt sentiment in regard to the more attractive side of D/s.

D/s can bring peace, but it hardly is always sublime and serene. i agree on the addictive part. Take the right connection, add love and addiction is a poor word to describe what one feels in relationship like that.

Thanks for posting it WD.

lara

 

[BrightFlower]

Thanks for the opportunity to comment. I have to agree with Lara, rarely is the relationship sublime or serene. I think the author is quick to define all D/s relationships as being the same, operating on the same dynamics. The fact that you can both make your relationship anything both of you agree to is one of the benefits of the D/s situation.
That being said though, it's nice to see someone with a well thought out sense of self and where they belong. Many will never acheive that.

 

[shelleb4]

That is lovely, WD.

I am just wondering how others feel about this comment:

"The gift of surrender should only be given to one's equal and to one worthy.__

Personally i have no experience of submitting to anyone in a bdsm sense other than my husband. So this is a best guess.
I would like to think that each submissive would only ever be in a scene where the dom was their equal.

But why would bdsm be different from vanilla? Where you will often find yourself in the company of someone who'm you would not consider your equal for whatever reasons.

I would imagine that vanilla or sub, there are assertive and submissive personality types, there are people who will accept second rate partners rather than be single, or celibate. There is choice in both fractions and where there is human choice, there will be human error. And as for inadequate dom/mes, just like inadequate vanilla, they are aplenty.

I will read as people add, as its a interesting point.

 

[Never]

Anonymous:
" The gift of surrender should only be given to one's equal and to one worthy."
Thank god for women who are willing to settle for less.

"To many subs give away their gift to quickly and to too many Doms, thus diminishing their gift."
If you replace subs with 'girls' and Doms with 'men' you can pretend you're in the nineteen-fifties again.

 

[Caitlynne]

Anonymous:
" The gift of surrender should only be given to one's equal and to one worthy."

Thank god for women who are willing to settle for less.

I once had a tee-shirt that said: "Any woman who seeks to be equal with men, has no ambition."

I still smile when I think of that.

~ Cait

 

[Netzach]

"To many subs give away their gift to quickly and to too many Doms, thus diminishing their gift."
If you replace subs with 'girls' and Doms with 'men' you can pretend you're in the nineteen-fifties again. [/B][/QUOTE]


We're not?!!!!!

 

[Never]

Well, some might be living in the 1950s... but how are they connecting to the internet?

I like that Caitlynne.

 

[bridgeburner]

Netzach,

Why do I imagine that what you like best about the 1950's is the pointy bullet bras?

 

[AngelicAssassin]

i see/hear the word "sublime" and i get the image of an earnest Keanu Reeves as a chevalier.

And yes, i meant the pun.

His line, "Don't you find it sublime?"

My return, "No, you twit, and for attempting such pretentions, forget the rest of the story plot. i will seduce and fuck your heart of hearts like a scullery maid until she barks like a bitch in heat. When you come at me for retribution and restoration of honor, i can skewer your ass and ask, 'Do you find this sublime,' on your way to the hell of idiots."

Guess that would have made Dangerous Liaisons the shortest movie in history.

 

[bridgeburner]

Now THAT'S sublime.

 

[FungiUg]

Re: Re: sub Philosophy :

Aside from dissing younger submissive's...

Er yeah, that kinda leapt out at me too much for me to enjoy the sentiment.

 

[AngelicAssassin]

Now THAT'S sublime.

Call it flash freeze following flambeau.

Some of the original post sings, some squawks.

It's the wrong time of the month, and i've got a taste for blood.

 

[bridgeburner]

It's the wrong time of the month, and i've got a taste for blood.

Full moon nearly, should be an excellent time of month for the bloody minded.

 

[Kajira Callista]

Full moon nearly, should be an excellent time of month for the bloody minded.

11:20pm tonight

 

[MissTaken]

Nice post, pyrolisk.

I enjoyed reading it and the raw truth with which you shared of yourself.

I am exploring this "equality" issue at present and while, there was a time when I believed that there was equality in a D/s relationship, I can't say I believe that is the case all the time or that it should be.

I will ahve to report back when I have worked this out for myself.

 

[kitty4ever]

At least equality, if not he has to be a stronger personality than I am. I'm a very strong personality, and if I've guessed/observed that the man isn't as strong, it won't last. I guess, what I'm trying to say is he has to be worthy of the gift that I give him in my submission.

 

[A Desert Rose]

Not exactly my sentiments but, I won't criticize hers.

Some of the post fits for me.. some does not. It would be so dull if we all felt exactly the same way.

A Stepford Sub? Yuck.

 

[Phoenix Stone]

i may be wrong, but i think part of submitting for many is the admission of inequality, & part of Dominance the establishment of superiority.

unless the sub were into humiliation (in which case the more the sub feels the Dom to be her inferior the better, eh? )

Enjoyed the post pyrolisk, especially as Miss Taken said, the honesty, how you were thinking it thru, it seemed, as you went along.

Lost of good posts. Have to admit that thoughts similar to Never's were among my first

Never: " The gift of surrender should only be given to one's equal and to one worthy."
Thank god for women who are willing to settle for less.

Yeah, well, if you figure that unlike Lake Woebegon, we are not all above average, if we weren't willing to, it wouldn't leave anyone for us to play with, would it?


That's only to the equal part though. Worthy? Pah. First reaction? We're All worthy. Second reaction -- nobody's worthy. Third -- who the hell's the damn worthiness police? I can just see the Big Dom/me in the sky, in a long robe, looking us each up and down, nodding, 'mm-hm,' then checking items off the list on the clipboard.

And how are we going to figure out who's worthy unless we give them our gift. And doesn't practice make perfect? Maybe I have a really Big gift, enough to share with Lots of doms. Or maybe it's the gift that keeps on giving and comes back to me tenfold, the more I give the more I have to give!

Ps. I kinda liked this at first but the more I looked..."There is not another such relationship that can compare." Oh please. People make a relationship. What you make of your relationship is what matters, not your bent. That's like people who'd try to say that M/s is better than D/s, or, for that matter, that straight relationships are better is better than gay. Unless the writer just meant that 'it's different from other relationships and therefore can't be compared, like apples and oranges,' which seems highly unlikely.

Oh I'm tired, and losing my humor. Horrors.

Stoney, the Smartass Sub (Topic -- smartass or stepford, which is better, and are they the opposite ends of the continuum?)

 

[MissTaken]

That's only to the equal part though. Worthy? Pah. First reaction? We're All worthy. Second reaction -- nobody's worthy. Third -- who the hell's the damn worthiness police? I can just see the Big Dom/me in the sky, in a long robe, looking us each up and down, nodding, 'mm-hm,' then checking items off the list on the clipboard.

:

*snickers*


I really liked this quote!!!!

 

[Phoenix Stone]

Re: *chuckle... snort*

okay okay... its a little sophomoric, but that little bit jumped out at me...

cant... stop.... giggling....

...always aim to please! (and hey, I'm maturing! Last guy said Infantile!)

on the other hand 'that little bit jumped out at me' may be some double entendre I just can't let past unsnickered at....

Btw, while I'm female, I Was thinking of you, dear, so yes, the possible size of one's gifts in a double entendre sort of way, did cross my mind in posting.... Always try to take the other guy's position.

(I live in a town where everyone seems to take themselves Very seriously, so it's a pleasure to have one's silliness appreciated!)

 

[Kajira Callista]

pstttttttt DVS is looking for you

 

[Pure]

I like what Phoenix said,

That's only to the equal part though. Worthy? Pah. First reaction? We're All worthy. Second reaction -- nobody's worthy. Third -- who the hell's the damn worthiness police? I can just see the Big Dom/me in the sky, in a long robe, looking us each up and down, nodding, 'mm-hm,' then checking items off the list on the clipboard.

And how are we going to figure out who's worthy unless we give them our gift. And doesn't practice make perfect? Maybe I have a really Big gift, enough to share with Lots of doms. Or maybe it's the gift that keeps on giving and comes back to me tenfold, the more I give the more I have to give!

Besides the problem of objectively assessing worthiness, there's the alleged sub's agenda of assessment: "Hmmm is he worthy of me?" What to look at... Money? Education? Sexiness? Social status?

I get it. Strength. Yeah. And how is the alleged sub to assess that strength?

The anonymous author said

"To surrender oneself is to truly be free and alive._ To give control to another is liberating, intoxicating and invigorating.__ The gift of surrender should only be given to one's equal and to one worthy.__ TO[O] many subs give away their gift to quickly and to too many Dom's, thus diminishing their gift."

This I call the Church virgin approach. Don't give it away too quickly. The cherry. Is the author saying subs have a 'subcherry'?

Hey, this isn't a dart towards subs who give, but to those who are telling you and others all the time about their gifts, and giving.
The ones that wear the 'gift of surrender' lapel buttons.

J.