Stupid shit people do...and the price they pay for it.

[islandman]

nah, instead why don't you tell us how we can get tickets to see the reunion tour of the Beatles?

-types slowly-

You are the former ScottyX. You're not the 'ex-ScottyX' as that would imply that someone has replaced you in that capacity.

So too here Paul is a former Beatle. No one has replaced him as a Beatle.


-throws a copy of Strunk & White at the dumbass-

 

[Ishmael]

-types slowly-

You are the former ScottyX. You're not the 'ex-ScottyX' as that would imply that someone has replaced you in that capacity.

So too here Paul is a former Beatle. No one has replaced him as a Beatle.


-throws a copy of Strunk & White at the dumbass-

But......but........he's a master novelist!!!!!!!! How dare you?

Ishmael

 

[DV81]

So too here Paul is a former Beatle. No one has replaced him as a Beatle.


-throws a copy of Strunk & White at the dumbass-

-throws a book on how to debate at the professional dunce.
oh thats right, its your thread, you can have the precious last word.

 

[Le Jacquelope]

Now, LT, be fair. You've made it perfectly clear (and at considerable length) that you feel that racial epithets can be perfectly justifiable personal insults under the right circumstances.

I think you're wrong, of course, but those are your rules and not mine. You ought to at least respect your own rulebook.

My rules are, if you call someone a racial slur unprovoked, they can shoot it back at you. I believe in fighting fire with fire, I see it as a virtue. And you have yet to show how that is not a virtue.

Byron in Exile has a pattern of hurling them unprovoked.

I know you have a fairly weak grasp of reality, but I certainly would like you to show me where what I wrote in bold, is factually incorrect.

 

[DV81]

But......but........he's a master novelist!!!!!!!! How dare you?

Ishmael

published more often than you ever will be.

care to go head to head?

 

[Le Jacquelope]

At what level is that? He can't even recruit those that would seem to be his natural allies in a flame war against me.

Actually he's been a laughing stock since I walked him into the "Nature is Evil" thread that he started.

Ishmael

Funny, how when you make a thread about me, even some of your natural allies line up to press gorilla cookies into walls with your face.

 

[BlackShanglan]

If yours were so much better then why doesn't he tell people "you sound like a BlackShanglan alt"?

Because, of course, my style is inimitable. Ishmael was kind enough to remark upon that himself. Yours is easily and, I'm sorry to say, commonly imitated; the Internet is rife with people who think that repetition, abuse, and invective are the height of wit.

He can't even recruit those that would seem to be his natural allies in a flame war against me.

Tragically, this is true. I don't think you're under any illusions as to my opinion of you in general, but despite the fact that I first started talking to LT precisely because we shared a strong antipathy to you, it's LT who has worn worse in the long run. He's only got about five topics, he's only got about five strategies, and once you've seen them, you've seen them.

You do occasionally post something I enjoy, like that thead about the elk. You're a much more interesting person when you're not busy hating things. I suspect that LT would be as well, but I've never really seen him in that position.

 

[Ishmael]

published more often than you ever will be.

care to go head to head?

I'm not into little boys.

Ishmael

 

[DV81]

I'm not into little boys.

Ishmael

just dead ones, right?

 

[islandman]

published more often than you ever will be.

care to go head to head?

We just did and I just schooled you.

BTW, you are absolutely the perfect person for this thread.

 

[BlackShanglan]

My rules are, if you call someone a racial slur unprovoked, they can shoot it back at you. I believe in fighting fire with fire, I see it as a virtue. And you have yet to show how that is not a virtue.

Byron in Exile has a pattern of hurling them unprovoked.

I know you have a fairly weak grasp of reality, but I certainly would like you to show me where what I wrote in bold, is factually incorrect.

I'll try to check in now and then and see if you've actually addressed anything I said in my post, but if you're keen for a response, you might wish to PM me when you do.

 

[Ishmael]

Because, of course, my style is inimitable. Ishmael was kind enough to remark upon that himself. Your is easily and, I'm sorry to say, commonly imitated; the Internet is rife with people who think that repetition, abuse, and invective are the height of wit.



Tragically, this is true. I don't think you're under any illusions as to my opinion of you in general, but despite the fact that I first started talking to LT precisely because we shared a strong antipathy to you, it's LT who has worn worse in the long run. He's only got about five topics, he's only got about five strategies, and once you've seen them, you've seen them.

You do occasionally post something I enjoy, like that thead about the elk. You're a much more interesting person when you're not busy hating things. I suspect that LT would be as well, but I've never really seen him in that position.

Substitute 'provocative' for 'hate' and see what you come up with.

Ishmael

 

[BlackShanglan]

Substitute 'provocative' for 'hate' and see what you come up with.

That's excellent advice. Why don't you try it?

 

[DV81]

We just did and I just schooled you.

BTW, you are absolutely the perfect person for this thread.

you schooled who? You're the one who believes all the Beatles are still alive, you gutter vermin.
I know you worship me and you're glad I came back if only for a day.

 

[islandman]

you schooled who? You're the one who believes all the Beatles are still alive, you gutter vermin.
I know you worship me and you're glad I came back if only for a day.

Hooknose to gutter vermin in one afternoon...yet still in the right.

I didn't realize the Beatles were still touring....dumbass.

I hope you come back another day to play. Till then, sweet dumbass.

 

[Le Jacquelope]

I'll try to check in now and then and see if you've actually addressed anything I said in my post, but if you're keen for a response, you might wish to PM me when you do.

I did address what you said. Point for point. No errors. No mistakes. I explained to you that your perception of my rules was wrong, in a very straightforward manner. The problem is that you and Ishmael are both mental feebs and when you encounter things you can't refute, your mind just blanks it out.

Your style is not inimitable. It is phony, and it works well against weaklings like Ishmael. You have a predictable pattern of making brittle arguments, having them dashed against your blocklike head, and then running away and saying they weren't addressed... all the while doing exactly what you whine about.

Your reaction is quite consistent with a pre-schooler who habitually skips class to catch the Teletubbies, only to be interrupted by the odd Partial Differential Equations question. You will never respect what I have to say, and I will never meet ill fortune applying my reasoning or principles in real life.

 

[Ishmael]

That's excellent advice. Why don't you try it?

I always do. My smiles don't show through the keyboard. I only have problems with the noobs.

Ishmael

 

[Le Jacquelope]

When backed into a corner after a straight hour of arguing yourself into a corner

make sure to disappear for the night...

and then declare later that you had better things to do.


Check.

Had BlackShanglan and Ishmael's predictable asses pegged right to the wall.


This is what sent BS into a tailspin:
I believe in fighting fire with fire, I see it as a virtue. And you have yet to show how that is not a virtue.

Ishmael is, of course, too busy getting gang raped for his comments about women growing old, essentially becoming a victim of his own "getting his ashes hauled so often, so consistently, and by such a broad spectrum of political and cultural differing individuals" delusions.

Byron in Exile spent an hour getting pummeled before he suddenly decided he couldn't answer the basic question: How is it that you go from being a black person to being considered a Nigger? Ah yes, I gotta call Byron's mom and tell her to let him off his chores for the night.


This happens EVERY TIME I get these fuckers to paint themselves into a corner. Of course when their trauma wears off and they forget their total humiliation, they'll come back later and say they kicked my ass or something.

 

[BlackShanglan]

You will never respect what I have to say ...

No, LT. This is the difference between us. I actually read what you say and base my thoughts about it on what you've brought to the table. When you're right, I willingly state that you're right. When you're wrong, I point out wherein you are wrong.

I'm not surprised, however, that you're familiar with the idea of a person who cannot respect anything a particular person says. As others have observed as well, that seems to be the standard pattern of your interaction with people who persist in not agreeing with you. You can respect anyone who never challenges you, but that's about as far as you seem able to go.

As for your latest - well, let's see. I pointed out that you'd just told someone that racist epithets are never, ever personal insults when, in fact, you've repeatedly defended your own use of them as such. In response, you invited me to debate the nature of virtue, which term has both (1) no empirically rooted or absolute definition, guaranteeing that any discussion of it will continue for the rest of eternity and (2) nothing to do with my post, which was questioning why what LT claims is a virtue when he does it can't exist for others.

Amazingly, I had better things to do. I was in fact watching "Kitchen Nightmares" and pausing several times to swear to the SO that I was watching LT. Watch it yourselves - you'll be amazed. Evidently he's a man named Sebastian who runs a pizzeria in California. How did I know it was LT? It was early in the episode - right about the point where Ramsay pointed out that the man was an incompetent chef without a ghost of an idea what he was doing running a restaurant that was $300,000 down. The man charged back inside pumping his arms and calling to his staff, "I won that one!"

It was remarkably instructive.

But for this ...

When backed into a corner after a straight hour of arguing yourself into a corner

make sure to disappear for the night...

and then declare later that you had better things to do.


Check.

Here's the thing, LT. People look for reward in their online postings. They do it because it's fun. Intelligent people are fun because one can learn from them. Kind people are fun because they're pleasant. Witty people are fun because they're charming. Cruel but clever people can be fun because they're incisive.

You're dull.

 

[Le Jacquelope]

No, LT. This is the difference between us. I actually read what you say and base my thoughts about it on what you've brought to the table. When you're right, I willingly state that you're right. When you're wrong, I point out wherein you are wrong.

I'm not surprised, however, that you're familiar with the idea of a person who cannot respect anything a particular person says. As others have observed as well, that seems to be the standard pattern of your interaction with people who persist in not agreeing with you. You can respect anyone who never challenges you, but that's about as far as you seem able to go.

Tell that to Sean Renaud or Lavared. They don't bullshit the way you do, that's the difference.

As for your latest - well, let's see. I pointed out that you'd just told someone that racist epithets are never, ever personal insults when, in fact, you've repeatedly defended your own use of them as such. In response, you invited me to debate the nature of virtue, which term has both (1) no empirically rooted or absolute definition, guaranteeing that any discussion of it will continue for the rest of eternity and (2) nothing to do with my post, which was questioning why what LT claims is a virtue when he does it can't exist for others.

No, I've defended my use of racial slurs on people who use them on me as fighting fire with fire. You get what you give. It's a taste of your own medicine. Ever heard of that?

Amazingly, I had better things to do. I was in fact watching "Kitchen Nightmares" and pausing several times to swear to the SO that I was watching LT. Watch it yourselves - you'll be amazed. Evidently he's a man named Sebastian who runs a pizzeria in California. How did I know it was LT? It was early in the episode - right about the point where Ramsay pointed out that the man was an incompetent chef without a ghost of an idea what he was doing running a restaurant that was $300,000 down. The man charged back inside pumping his arms and calling to his staff, "I won that one!"

That's about as logical as saying "you suck oxygen just like the loser down the street does, so you two must both be losers".

It was remarkably instructive.

Sebastian is about to lose his store to creditors. He's about to have his defeat demonstrated to him the hard way. If I follow your lines of reasoning I would certainly follow his path down.

I choose to reject your views and instead choose the path to success in life.

I've called someone a jumping bean (a hispanic slur) for calling me a monkey (a black racial slur), in front of a crowd of adults. I've alienated no one, and his grandfather/legal guardian not only made him wash my car BUT he's also asking my wife to step down from her high & mighty "commercial only" perch and insure his home when his policy renews in December.

Like I said, your views have no purchase except here. You will have to work exceptionally hard to prove your relevance when you have none.

Blh blah LT is this, LT is that. Spare me. I'm here waiting for Byron in Exile to tell me how it is he thinks a black man can become a nigger. I'm not here to watch you wax apathetic about that central issue while tossing donkey kong barrels loaded with your defeated, irrelevant tangentials.

Here's the thing, LT. People look for reward in their online postings. They do it because it's fun. Intelligent people are fun because one can learn from them. Kind people are fun because they're pleasant. Witty people are fun because they're charming. Cruel but clever people can be fun because they're incisive.

You're dull.

And you are boring, predictable and utterly unchallenging.

 

[BlackShanglan]

No, I've defended my use of racial slurs on people who use them on me as fighting fire with fire. You get what you give. It's a taste of your own medicine. Ever heard of that?

Yes. Can you see how that fails to connect with this statement?

Funny how you two are the only people here who think that can ever be a personal insult.

Or are you suggesting that it's only racial epithets you sling that "can ever be a personal insult"?

That's about as logical as saying "you suck oxygen just like the loser down the street does, so you two must both be losers".

That's a remarkable piece of reasoning that would work perfectly with just a few minor tweaks. All you need to do is take out the words "suck oxygen" in both cases and replace them with the words "joyously yell victory based on jubilant self-delusion," and you're there.

<assorted rants about insurance, jumping beans, Byron in Exile, and donkey kong>

I'm sorry. Which part of that demonstrated how racial epithets can never be used as personal insults except when you feel like it in which case they're fine?

This is why I go off to watch Chef Ramsay. He's capable of addressing a point without dragging in the history of the GB, 1980's video arcade games, completely different posters, and arguments from debates had three months ago. If, however, you are pleased to cheer "WIN!" when people just can't bear one more attempt to get you to stay on a topic and actually address what's being said, I won't try to rob you of that meager satisfaction. Well done, indeed. You are indeed too tedious to speak to for long.

 

[Le Jacquelope]

Yes. Can you see how that fails to connect with this statement?

Well, for one, it's inconvenient for you.

Or are you suggesting that it's only racial epithets you sling that "can ever be a personal insult"?

Nope. I didn't say or suggest that. I suggested that this argument isn't even relevant.

What you do to me I will do to you. That's what is relevant.

That's a remarkable piece of reasoning that would work perfectly with just a few minor tweaks. All you need to do is take out the words "suck oxygen" in both cases and replace them with the words "joyously yell victory based on jubilant self-delusion," and you're there.

You fail on the self delusion assertion. His failure is real. Your perception of my failure is just that - it's in your head.

I practice what I preach and it has profited me well. Of course, as usual, you predictably snip out that inconvenient factor.

I'm sorry. Which part of that demonstrated how racial epithets can never be used as personal insults except when you feel like it in which case they're fine?

This is why I go off to watch Chef Ramsay. He's capable of addressing a point without dragging in the history of the GB, 1980's video arcade games, completely different posters, and arguments from debates had three months ago. If, however, you are pleased to cheer "WIN!" when people just can't bear one more attempt to get you to stay on a topic and actually address what's being said, I won't try to rob you of that meager satisfaction. Well done, indeed. You are indeed too tedious to speak to for long.

What you said was addressed. Repeatedly.

You have failed to demonstrate any cause to take anything you've said to heart. Your ideas lead to failure. Oh sure, you score points with the all-white "I hate LT" crowd

a bunch of white people who never have tolerated any black person standing up for themselves on here

which is why Medjay has left, mind you

but if you were to ever speak your garbage out on the street, you would be committed in a New York minute.

You are crazy, BlackShanglan. You are deluded. You are in no way connected with reality. Know that. Understand that. Be at peace with it.

You have been left behind.

I will not argue this any more. What you do to me, I will do to you. Period.

Find something else to argue about. That is how the world works, and you will be shown that the hard way if you ever manage to throw yourself bravely into the light of day.

 

[Recidiva]

Funny, how when you make a thread about me, even some of your natural allies line up to press gorilla cookies into walls with your face.

gorilla cookies?

 

[Batch]

gorilla cookies?

I have gorilla coffee

or
rather I make coffee as strong as a gorilla.

 

[Recidiva]

I have gorilla coffee

or
rather I make coffee as strong as a gorilla.

I googled "gorilla cookie" - except I'm getting real gorilla cookie cutters.