story categories and standards

[DarlingNikki]

I hope I am in the right forum for this, but...

When writing a story for the "Celebrities" category, what constitutes a celebrity?

Are Jesus and Mary Magdalene celebrities? And would a story about them be offensive to people?

Are characters from books celebrities? Is it a copyright violation to write about them?

If you are writing about characters from books, do they still have to be over 18, even if they aren't in the books? Ex. Holden Caulfied, who is only 16 in the book. I'm thinking yes, but had to ask, at least. And would there be any interest in a story like that here?

What are people looking for when they go to the clebrities section? Is it all "Charmed" and "Buffy the Vampire Slayer?" And if that is the case, if one were to write a story about a more obscure celebrity like Holden, would it be a better "marketing" choice to put it in another category?

 

[Svenskaflicka]

All celebrity stories should be in Celebrity Category.

All people involved with anything sexual must be 18.

Book characters are OK. As are bible-people. (Though be prepared for hate-mail!)

Something else than Buffy stories will be GREATLY appreciated, as people are getting pretty fed up with that.

 

[MaxSebastian]

And remember...

Kevin Costner is no longer a celebrity.

 

[Svenskaflicka]

Kevin who?

 

[DarlingNikki]

thanks, svenskaflicka.

Damn, and I was just about to write a story about Kevin Costner and Buffy... oh well.

I know if I write a Jesus story I will offend some people, but will I offend so many people that its not worth writing?

 

[wildsweetone]

All people involved with anything sexual must be 18.

oops i think i just messed that one up Scenskaflicka rofl

 

[hiddenself]

... if one were to write a story about a more obscure celebrity like Holden, would it be a better "marketing" choice to put it in another category?

Holden Caulfield obscure?!
Not to some of us older foggies here...


I would love to see something about grumpy sweet Holden. Would Phoebe be involved? I love Phoebe. What if you did not specify an age in your writeup and leave it to the reader? Would that get such a story past the dreadful underage police?

hs

 

[Svenskaflicka]

I know if I write a Jesus story I will offend some people, but will I offend so many people that its not worth writing?

Hopefully, you will offend so many people that it IS worth writing!

 

[pop_54]

Hmmmmmmmm

Interesting thread.

Someone writing about Jesus wouldn't offend me, adverse or complimentary, but then I think everything that needs to be said about Jesus has already been said somewhere, so not much point in trying to add to it, unless you know something about Buffy, Kevin Costner, and JC that we don't.

The age thing is a minefield, in a lot of countries it's perfectly legal to have sex with a 14 yr old, but it seems no one is allowed to write that down, OOPS, I just did.
Of course we all know sex begins at 18 don't we so no point writing anything else down.
Shame the world's gone mad isn't it where sex and age is concerned, I just try to use the term young if the character is legal age but not 18, I don't write about underage sex, that is real life underage sex, not the false life under 18 sex.
I often use real age and risk being damned in factual based tales, I aint in the business of changing history to suit some narrow minded thought policeman / woman.

Book characters seems OK, but a bit like the Jesus thing, someone's already done it, but then if you want to tell us Scrooge and Jacob Marley were a pair of queers banging each other up the bum carry on.

pops................

 

[KillerMuffin]

Anything that would need the Celeb category disclaimer belongs in celebrities. That would be stories about real people and derivatives. Derivatives are frequently called parodies, slash, and fan-fic. They're copyright infringement and illegal, but oh well, they rarely complain about such things. I don't believe that Lit is currently posting Disney because they do go after copyright infringement, unlike the producers of oh, Star Trek, who just look the other way.

Whether you put historical figures into celebrities depends on how you feel about it. A story revolving around, say, King Henry the VIII really wouldn't be a celeb story, but you can put it there if you want. It all depends on your viewpoint. If the person is still living and can be considered "famous" or has an estate that still capitalizes on that "fame" (like Elvis), then it's a celeb. Otherwise, use your best judgment!

Celebrity Category Disclaimer
DISCLAIMER:

The stories in the "Celebrity" section of Literotica are all fictional parodies - none are true, nor are they approved of by the celebrities named in the stories. Authors write these fictitious stories about famous people for the same reason that Larry Flynt made fun of Jerry Falwell, because they can. The Supreme Court of the United States, the country where this site is located, has ruled that parodies involving famous people are perfectly and totally legal under the United States Constitution. The specific case law on this was decided in the case of "Hustler Magazine, Inc. et al. v. Jerry Falwell" in 1988. No harm is intended toward the celebrities featured in these stories, but they are public figures and in being so, they must accept that they are fair target for parodies by the public. We believe in the first amendment, and more broadly, in the basic principle of free speech and this section may push the boundaries of that principle, but the United States Supreme Court has approved of this type of material. We believe that the Supreme Court was correct in their decision.

 

[NoJo]

Jesus

Michael Moorcock wrote a book call "Behold the Man" which was a fiction about Jesus - It included sex scenes in it that made it very controversial. Michael Moorcock liked shocking people. I personally think that Jesus is so "mythologized" as to be, to non Christians, a fictional character. Like Billy the Kid, or Joan of Ark.

I wrote a parody of Sherlock Holmes and found it was recategorized as Celebrities. For a while I put this down to a mistake by the editor, till I noticed the large number of fictional characters in the Celeb section.

I now put it down to the Americans' well-known inability to separate fact from fantasy.

 

[wildsweetone]

Re: Jesus

...a fictional character. Like Billy the Kid, or Joan of Ark.

I believe Joan of Ark became a Saint in 1920.

 

[Dirt Man]

If you write about Jesus here...

For myself, I wouldn't bother reading, or writing an erotic story in this format concerning the son of man. (Yes, he was called both the son of man as well as the son of God. His mother was human.) Also, if you are thinking of putting him to bed with Marry Magdeline, that's been done, even if not true. However, though there is no real reason that Jesus couldn't have enjoyed sexual relationships while here on earth we tend to consider our dieties above such mundane pursuits. How they(Father, Son, Holy Ghost) feel about it is still unknown other than from Genisis when God told man to go forth and be fruitfull when he kicked us out of the Garden of Eden. And too, it's only in the Mosaic Law that we find what constituets proper sexual behavior. Most of which wasn't written by God as he had on the basic Ten Commandments, but by the clergy after harrassing Moses like lawyers to add more Laws. God creates, man duplicates. As a writer you must write, and write what your heart dictates. Just remember this, God erased Soddam, and Gemorra, turned Lot's wife into salt, and flooded the planet when he was pissed off. Even Moses, who God spoke to face to face, and was considered one of God's best buddies down here was chastized when he didn't do something the way God told him to. But hey, it's not like he'll send down 7 deadly plagues on you right? Or give your face a hidious zit that will never go away, eh? It's just fiction after all.


As Always
I Am the
Dirt Man

 

[Guest]

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[NoJo]

DM, I apologize if calling Jesus "fictional" came out offensive. Judging by the tone of your post, I may have offended. The word was a little ill-chosen. What I meant was that all we know about Jesus comes fom the Bible (I think maybe John the Baptist was mentioned by some contemporary Roman writer) and commentaries of the Bible.

Of course taking the "real" Jesus and putting him in an erotic story is not so much offending HIM, as to the followers of his teaching. It's iconoclasm.

I think you could say the same about Abraham Lincoln. In both cases it's the ideas and beliefs they engendered, not really the personalities, or details of their lives, that count.

 

[deliciously_naughty]

Hey, some of us do consider Jesus a fictional character made up by some mysoginistic prick who wrote the bible. I'm not saying whether I do or don't, but I am saying that many people who aren't Christian feel that way. Not everyone believes the bible is fact.

Beyond that, Celeb covers real celebs, any character that has a copyright (like sherlock holmes) or anything that could cause a lawsuit.

Disney is prohibited b/c they're vicious...most people respect fanfic as long as you don't gtry to get money from it...at that point you're violating copyright law.

 

[KillerMuffin]

Actually, DN, you're violating copyright law when you post fanfic/slash. Derivate works and all that. However, most of the copyright holders recognize that the people who write the slash and fanfic are also the people who line up the night before the movie is out, buy the action figures, and have every single episode on the expensive DVD box set.

This is the best explanation of it that I've ever read:

http://writersu.s5.com/law/lawfaq.html

 

[Just-Legal]

There is some stuff thats not Buffy (or Wrestling).

Mine!

LOL!

What? There isn't a whole portion devoted to debauching Snape for nothing you know

 

[Guest]

LMAO

Just don't start a story with anyone underage...even IF they arn't involved sexually. Cause then, Laurel will have to reject the story, and you'll go back to do a rewrite, screw things up...and end up making a mess out of it.

Ah but then....that's a whole nother story. LOL.

I remain,