Spy balloon sent by China to US skies,

[ll74]

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2ND CHINESE SURVEILLANCE BALLOON SPOTTED OVER SOUTH AMERICA, PENTAGON SAYS​

 

[Fuzzy1975]

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2ND CHINESE SURVEILLANCE BALLOON SPOTTED OVER SOUTH AMERICA, PENTAGON SAYS​

This doesn't give me a lot of faith in the Chinese, if they can't get some spy satellites up there and instead have to use balloon technology...

 

[icanhelp1]

They do have a service ceiling of 58,000 ft. and its cannon has a 2000 foot range.

Now they can’t make up their mind on whether it was a 16 or 22 But its a goner

 

[Fuzzy1975]

I don't run away from anything without six inch claws.

So you wouldn't run away from a Grizzley eh? Well best have some good firepower then.....

 

[Fuzzy1975]

Now they can’t make up their mind on whether it was a 16 or 22

Who can't make up there mind, the military, or those reporting on it? Does it matter if they shot it down with a jet, or used a guy and a slingshot? I'm more interested in what they can find from the wreckage.

 

[Rightguide]

Now they can’t make up their mind on whether it was a 16 or 22 But its a goner

It might take a while to bring it down slowly. The balloon is said to be huge so it might take more than a few 20mm holes to expel all of its gas and bring it down in one piece.

 

[lazy_literotic]

This doesn't give me a lot of faith in the Chinese, if they can't get some spy satellites up there and instead have to use balloon technology...

don't worry - while you guys spend your energy erasing history -
fucking china is cranking out rocket scientists by the thousands.

 

[icanhelp1]

It might take a while to bring it down slowly. The balloon is said to be huge so it might take more than a few 20mm holes to expel all of its gas and bring it down in one piece.

What I don’t understand is why Canada didn’t shoot it down, don’t they have kites that go that high?

 

[Rightguide]

don't worry - while you guys spend your energy erasing history -
fucking china is cranking out rocket scientists by the thousands.

What I don’t understand is why Canada didn’t shoot it down, don’t they have kites that go that high?

It's on its way down now, looks like several pieces. Many metallic pieces are visible in the falling debris.

 

[icanhelp1]

It's on its way down now, looks like several pieces.

Now the story is an F-22 with a single air to air sidewinder missile *heat seeker* at 58,000 ft.

Debris may have landed in less than 40 ft of water.

Wouldn't it be really funny if it really was a weather balloon.

 

[jaF0]

Das balloon kersplash?

 

[Rightguide]

One wonders if this balloon was filled with hydrogen gas, which might have been explosive when it was combined with air and an exploding 20mm round. Just saying.

 

[icanhelp1]

Rumor has it another balloon was spotted over Canada. #3

 

[Rightguide]

Now the story is an F-22 with a single air to air sidewinder missile *heat seeker* at 58,000 ft.

Debris may have landed in less than 40 ft of water.

Wouldn't it be really funny if it really was a weather balloon.

What might have been the heat source on that balloon to guide the seeker of a Sidewinder?

 

[Fuzzy1975]

What I don’t understand is why Canada didn’t shoot it down, don’t they have kites that go that high?

Same issue, over land.
As to our kites, the CF-18 only hits 50,000 so tactically it might be an issue. Be different I guess when the F-35's we're buying off the US get here. Till then we will just have to rely on the NORAD agreement eh?

 

[Fuzzy1975]

Rumor has it another balloon was spotted over Canada. #3

If the best China can do is shoot balloons our way, I think you and wrongway are getting way over reactive about China...*chuckles*

 

[Rightguide]

Same issue, over land.
As to our kites the CF-18 only hits 50,000 so tactically it might be an issue. Be different I guess when the F-35's we're buying of the US get here. Till then we will just have to rely on the NORAD agreement eh?

NORAD had to be tracking that thing while it was still over China and all the way here.

 

[Fuzzy1975]

NORAD had to be tracking that thing while it was still over China and all the way here.

I have no idea, I thought you had all the inside information...*chuckles*

 

[Rightguide]

Now the story is an F-22 with a single air to air sidewinder missile *heat seeker* at 58,000 ft.

Debris may have landed in less than 40 ft of water.

Wouldn't it be really funny if it really was a weather balloon.

Looks like the sensor package separated at the moment of contact, and will be pretty much destroyed on impact with the water.

 

[ll74]

NORAD had to be tracking that thing while it was still over China and all the way here.

They may have been doing so....but it doesn't mean they knew what it was or why immediately.

 

[LincolnDuncan]

Trump can fly like Superman and would have just flown up to that balloon and punched it out of the sky

 

[KeithD]

It's over other than the debris recovery and analysis. It most likely will prove to be far less of a story than was being made out of it--especially by the partisan back-biting Republican propagandists.

The Chinese explanation that it was a weather balloon gone awry and misdirected by wind might be true (but it would still be sloppiness by the Chinese), and research of the payload may bear that out. It's not some sort of newfangled spying act, though. First, it wouldn't be new. Chinese technology spying on the United States has been going on for over fifty years--and has been pointed to by U.S. authorities all of that time (as has such spying in the other direction, the U.S. of China). (I brushed against it in the early 80s, having worked with Chinese spy Wu-tai (Larry) Chin, who had a U.S. intelligence job and spied for the Chinese. My latest story on Literotica, written and submitted before this balloon iniident, is exactly on that--Chinese tech spying in the United States.) And, second, the Chinese and the U.S. and several other countries have spy satellites up around the world and around the clock doing whatever we could imagine this balloon was doing if it was engaged in data collection.

President Biden says he authorized that it be shot down when that was safe as far back as Wednesday when it was first detected. There's been no indication given that it came into the United States over Alaska. It's first entry in the United States could have been over Montana, when it was first detected on Wednesday.

By the way, data gathering is not the only possibility that the U.S. authorities had to take into consideration on this balloon, which is another reason it wasn't being taken down immediately. I have no idea what the U.S. knew already about what was up there with that balloon. Indications are they had a handle on that. If not, they had to consider that it might be a weapons-delivery instrument not just a data collection one. What if it contained poison gas--sarin gas or something--and was delivering a lethal payload? Would you want it scattered all over the ground in the United States then? Authorities have to take all possibilities into account.

 

[Rightguide]

Joe Biden let this happen. The mission as far as the Chinese are concerned was a success as it transmitted all of its data and stored nothing. Joe Biden has proved himself to be either a physical coward unfit for his office or an employee of the CCP. He has definitely acted in their best interests as he has from the beginning.

 

[schism666]

what a bunch of paranoid pussies

 

[icanhelp1]

Trump can fly like Superman and would have just flown up to that balloon and punched it out of the sky

Maybe Biden was hiding classified documents on the balloon and the special counsel shot it down.