Spring/Autumn relationships.

[WriterDom]

Most of my female friends are liberal. Most of my relationships have been with liberals. But these same people just cringe when I talk about being with a legal, but young, girl. These same people defended Bill Clinton to the bitter end and that ManWhore was married. Hugh has a mansion full of young women and his Viagra injected dick gets a tv show. Why should I feel guilty about it?

 

[myinnerslut]

Most of my female friends are liberal. Most of my relationships have been with liberals. But these same people just cringe when I talk about being with a legal, but young, girl. These same people defended Bill Clinton to the bitter end and that ManWhore was married. Hugh has a mansion full of young women and his Viagra injected dick gets a tv show. Why should I feel guilty about it?

you shouldn't.

but my opinion is quite biased.

 

[sinnocence]

you shouldn't.

but my opinion is quite biased.

I was gonna say the same thing.

 

[WriterDom]

you shouldn't.

but my opinion is quite biased.

Well, your man is more late summer.

 

[myinnerslut]

Well, your man is more late summer.

i never really understood where the age cutoffs were. ill take your word for it.

eta: http://naturalmedicine.suite101.com/article.cfm/age_gap_relationships

 

[Homburg]

Can you guess what my response is?

In case you can't, it's something along the lines of "She's legal and she wants to be here, and that should be sufficient explanation."

 

[Daddy2mylilgirl]

If there's grass on the field then play ball.

 

[WriterDom]

I would like to hear from the other side on this. I know you are out there biting your tongue.

 

[Homburg]

Oh, don't get me wrong, there will be backlash, and society has a reason for disliking these relationships. Your core question was whether or not you should feel guilty. Nope, you shouldn't. So long as it is a mutually enjoyable and beneficial relationship, and both parties are there of their own free will, no one else should care.

 

[rinka]

Age is just a number and I have no issues with people falling in love with someone younger or older. Or having fun consensual sex because you're attracted to someone.

However... saying that you want to be with a really young girl can be somewhat provocative. Because it implies that it's the youth, not the person, you want. The meat.

And I can sure understand why young girls are hot, young guys are too. But saying it to your presumably not as young female friends might push a couple of buttons.

But you knew that already.

 

[WriterDom]

Age is just a number and I have no issues with people falling in love with someone younger or older. Or having fun consensual sex because you're attracted to someone.

However... saying that you want to be with a really young girl can be somewhat provocative. Because it implies that it's the youth, not the person, you want. The meat.

And I can sure understand why young girls are hot, young guys are too. But saying it to your presumably not as young female friends might push a couple of buttons.

But you knew that already.

It is "partly" about the meat. God intended it to be that way since younger women are more likely to breed. I'm not saying I would use someone just for sex. My rule is I don't fuck anyone unless I can see myself fucking them for a long time.

 

[Homburg]

It is "partly" about the meat.

At least you're honest enough to admit it.

In my own case, the age difference was something I had to get past. She lived, at least when we met, in a very different world from I. She lived on campus, around very young, immature people. She was not immature at all, but the environment was very weird for me to intersect with. And, initially at least, there were some generational differences vis a vis culture. Music and movies basically, but we've since accepted that our taste in movies and music are different, but still compatible in areas. Given how important music is to me, this was a great relief.

My rule is I don't fuck anyone unless I can see myself fucking them for a long time.

This is an eminently prudent rule. Strange can be good in its' own way, but I prefer familiar that I can get to do strange things for me as needed.

 

[WriterDom]

I'm used to cultural differences. Most of my lovers have been younger. 35 is young to me. Most really intelligent girls seem to have a air of maturity about them. I couldn't be with a blonde bimbo type.

 

[gypsy*seer]

I would like to hear from the other side on this. I know you are out there biting your tongue.

I say ~ Whatever floats your boat!
There will always be stereotypes, so I won't bother to even address them.

Many men prefer an older woman ( as opposed to a very young, nubile one) because she is much more comfortable with her sexuality, while many still, prefer the younger because they choose to be their 'teacher'. Same for the opposite gender.
Personally, I have had most relationships with an older man ( 5- 12 years), but I am open to the possibility of a much younger man, as long as he can match wits, intellect, and maturity, on the same level as myself. Age IS just a number.

That's my 2 cents worth!

 

[BiaTcHiNFiRe]

It is "partly" about the meat. God intended it to be that way since younger women are more likely to breed. I'm not saying I would use someone just for sex. My rule is I don't fuck anyone unless I can see myself fucking them for a long time.

You realise if you date a young girl, she will need sex long after your cock won't be usable anymore?

soz couldn't help it



I don't have a prob with people wanting/needing younger or older partner. I prefer them older (mature) myself. Would never date a man of my age. They must be older than me to interest me. When I think about it, A. is very young on my "age scale" as well. He's just 5 years older than me. He's a exception to the rule hehe. Guess it depends!

Seriously, I think it doesn't matter how old is someone (as long as they are legal LOL). You mean young girls are hornier or will last longer? Well I am 31 and I could fuck all the time. Somehow I know that on the deathbed I will still feel the same.

Guess God gave me too much of sexual appetit. lol




You don't need a young girl for good sex that will last for years. Someone who will be dying for your cock right now and in 30-40 years just the same way as now. You need a slut!

 

[JMohegan]

Most of my female friends are liberal. Most of my relationships have been with liberals. But these same people just cringe when I talk about being with a legal, but young, girl. These same people defended Bill Clinton to the bitter end and that ManWhore was married. Hugh has a mansion full of young women and his Viagra injected dick gets a tv show. Why should I feel guilty about it?

There's a difference between legal and ethical, in my book.

A code of ethics is an individual construct. Therefore, if some guy says to me: "I'm 51 and dating a legal, but young, girl," I'm not gonna start clucking about it. God knows, there are plenty of guys who do this.

However, if the same guy asks me if I think what he's doing is wrong, my response will be: That depends.

To me, it's not an age thing, it's a question of the capacity for informed consent and the type of relationship you've got.

If all you're talking about is a one-time or occasional fuck, then the age of consent seems like an ethical boundary to me. But if you're talking about a committed relationship with significant ramifications for her life, then my personal ethical view is that if one party is an experienced adult (as defined below), then the other party should be an experienced adult too.

I don't consider someone to be an adult until he or she has grown up, left home, held down a job, negotiated a lease, paid the rent, and so on. Dealing with the realities of life as an independent human being is what I'm talking about here.

So, from a purely ethical committed relationship standpoint, I'd say that for you a fully functional, independent adult is fair game, but a starry-eyed Bulldog turned on by your blog is not.

I would like to hear from the other side on this. I know you are out there biting your tongue.

You asked, that's why I'm answering. Otherwise, I would not.

 

[WriterDom]

There's a difference between legal and ethical, in my book.

A code of ethics is an individual construct. Therefore, if some guy says to me: "I'm 51 and dating a legal, but young, girl," I'm not gonna start clucking about it. God knows, there are plenty of guys who do this.

However, if the same guy asks me if I think what he's doing is wrong, my response will be: That depends.

To me, it's not an age thing, it's a question of the capacity for informed consent and the type of relationship you've got.

If all you're talking about is a one-time or occasional fuck, then the age of consent seems like an ethical boundary to me. But if you're talking about a committed relationship with significant ramifications for her life, then my personal ethical view is that if one party is an experienced adult (as defined below), then the other party should be an experienced adult too.

I don't consider someone to be an adult until he or she has grown up, left home, held down a job, negotiated a lease, paid the rent, and so on. Dealing with the realities of life as an independent human being is what I'm talking about here.

So, from a purely ethical committed relationship standpoint, I'd say that for you a fully functional, independent adult is fair game, but a starry-eyed Bulldog turned on by your blog is not.

You asked, that's why I'm answering. Otherwise, I would not.

For a long time, my rule was no one under 25. Just to save myself from wasting energy on someone who could not break the barrier between fantasy and reality. That's a hard barrier to break for a woman at any age if she hasn't gone beyond online.

 

[Homburg]

For a long time, my rule was no one under 25. Just to save myself from wasting energy on someone who could not break the barrier between fantasy and reality. That's a hard barrier to break for a woman at any age if she hasn't gone beyond online.

I've never really had a rule. I tend to base these things on the individual. Usually these things are self-policing, as I am simply uninterested in young'uns. Too much difference in base experiences and priorities to allow for meaningful conversation. No conversation? No serious relationship. This has lead me as a younger man to keep with women older than myself by a few years. As I aged though, I found that the minimum age for good conversation didn't particularly change. It's not like they're becoming mature at an older age just because I'm older.

Grasp of reality, however, is slippery, and not dependent on age. I know people in their 30's and 40's that still live with their parents and I'm not talking a situation where they moved back in for financial reasons. I know a LOT of people who were still living at home before they got married and moved out. And I know people well past their 20's that live on their own but have no grasp on consensual reality as you or I know it. So paying the bills alone is no indicator of worth, just of basic financial competency.

Interestingly, there is a formula on age difference. Take your age, divide by two, and add seven. This came up in France during and after the Napoleonic wars. So many men were killed or maimed that there was a large surplus of young women, and a strident need to repopulate France. So this formula was arrived upon and became the societal guide for cultural acceptability. It was also intended, from what I recall, to prevent what we would consider as paedophilic pairings with underage girls. Older men and women of age weren't looked down upon in the same manner.

 

[ownedsubgal]

Interestingly, there is a formula on age difference. Take your age, divide by two, and add seven. This came up in France during and after the Napoleonic wars. So many men were killed or maimed that there was a large surplus of young women, and a strident need to repopulate France. So this formula was arrived upon and became the societal guide for cultural acceptability. It was also intended, from what I recall, to prevent what we would consider as paedophilic pairings with underage girls. Older men and women of age weren't looked down upon in the same manner.

hmmm...Daddy's age, divided by two, then add 7...that would make me 2 years too young for him, lol. interesting formula though. personally, i've always believed that relationships between older men and younger women, with an age gap of at least 10 years were ideal. socially, biologically, emotionally...the chances for compatibility are just much greater imo.

 

[Homburg]

hmmm...Daddy's age, divided by two, then add 7...that would make me 2 years too young for him, lol. interesting formula though. personally, i've always believed that relationships between older men and younger women, with an age gap of at least 10 years were ideal. socially, biologically, emotionally...the chances for compatibility are just much greater imo.

MIS is just a couple of years too young for me by that formula too.

I read an article a couple of years ago on a study that said just what you are saying there. Couples where there is an age difference of about ten years between the male and female tend to be happier overall than couples of similar ages.

The article went so far as to discuss the power aspect (in a muted vanilla sort of power) due to the age difference, and how people sometimes seek out that sort of unequal power/experience. In going for exactly what each party wanted, both were happier than if they simply bent to societal whims and dated within the "acceptable" age bracket.

 

[BiBunny]

I've always gone for older men, but then I was an only child. I was socialized to relate better to people older than me than to people my own age.

It's kind of weird, though. Master is one of the younger men I've been with. (I'm 25. He's 31. Mistress is 24.)

The three of us were lying in bed together the other morning before Mistress had to get up and go to work, and we were teasing Master about being a dirty old man, etc., etc. He just grinned at us and said, "I can't help that younger women fall for me." Asshole.

 

[CurlyKat]

There's a difference between legal and ethical, in my book.

A code of ethics is an individual construct. Therefore, if some guy says to me: "I'm 51 and dating a legal, but young, girl," I'm not gonna start clucking about it. God knows, there are plenty of guys who do this.

However, if the same guy asks me if I think what he's doing is wrong, my response will be: That depends.

To me, it's not an age thing, it's a question of the capacity for informed consent and the type of relationship you've got.

If all you're talking about is a one-time or occasional fuck, then the age of consent seems like an ethical boundary to me. But if you're talking about a committed relationship with significant ramifications for her life, then my personal ethical view is that if one party is an experienced adult (as defined below), then the other party should be an experienced adult too.

I don't consider someone to be an adult until he or she has grown up, left home, held down a job, negotiated a lease, paid the rent, and so on. Dealing with the realities of life as an independent human being is what I'm talking about here.

So, from a purely ethical committed relationship standpoint, I'd say that for you a fully functional, independent adult is fair game, but a starry-eyed Bulldog turned on by your blog is not.

You asked, that's why I'm answering. Otherwise, I would not.

I completely agree. The "right" or "wrong" of it all depends on motives and both sides living in reality with absolutely no illusions of the fairy tale ending. I don't make judgment calls, unless it's quite clear that one side is taking advantage of the other for some reason. If it works for you, then it works and you're better off than the rest of us who aren't working out!

Growing up in the manner I did with the experiences I've had, I'm very torn on this, however. I tend to be a little stuck in the conventions with dating someone close to my age or maybe a little bit older (largest age difference so far was seven years), but most of the time that doesn't work out so well for me. I've always found it easier to talk to someone older than myself and am more comfortable around someone older. My primary concern is in longterm issues, such as life expectancy and happiness later in life. Guess we'll all see how my opinions about that change with more experiences!

 

[NALA CAYENNE]

Most of my female friends are liberal. Most of my relationships have been with liberals. But these same people just cringe when I talk about being with a legal, but young, girl. These same people defended Bill Clinton to the bitter end and that ManWhore was married. Hugh has a mansion full of young women and his Viagra injected dick gets a tv show. Why should I feel guilty about it?

Why feel guilty? Age is just as number, as has been said, and feelings know no age boundaries.

Master, while a tad older than me, is actually younger than I would have thought I would want as as owner. However, he is way more mature than a lot of older guys I know, I fell in love with him and he me despite my weirdness and bad habits, he takes care of my every need and desire, knows me better than I know myself and we are very close/have similar interests allowing, as Homburg said, meaningful conversation...and we do talk a lot, about everything.

As long as both of you want to be in the relationship and are consenting adults, find your happy (as Homburg has always said to me) and screw what everyone thinks.

 

[ownedsubgal]

But if you're talking about a committed relationship with significant ramifications for her life, then my personal ethical view is that if one party is an experienced adult (as defined below), then the other party should be an experienced adult too.

I don't consider someone to be an adult until he or she has grown up, left home, held down a job, negotiated a lease, paid the rent, and so on. Dealing with the realities of life as an independent human being is what I'm talking about here.

by that definition, i am not an adult and never will be. of course in my case, experience as an "independent adult" would have greatly inhibited my potential to be the slave that i am now.

 

[WriterDom]

You realise if you date a young girl, she will need sex long after your cock won't be usable anymore?

soz couldn't help it

That might be a problem one day. Right now I need to be on anti-Viagra. My ex was 35 and her older sister told her not to expect much sexually. Even she didn't believe some of my claims before she met me. Like the time I had 5 orgasms without even getting out of bed. With a scorpio who had 5 kids at the time but had the body of a 20 year old. I believe she could have kept going too.