Some Questions On The Flynn Affair

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The government claims they were worried about a phone call made between Flynn and the Russian Ambassador, right? Well looking at the declassified list of names unmasking Flynn one can't find an unmasking request made on the day of the call, December 29, 2016. There's all kinds of requests but not on that day...why? How could the government know about the call if it wasn't monitored and transcribed? How was it transferred, by word of mouth, who knows? Where are the transcripts of the call? Well take a look at this on page 213 of the now declassified Andrew McCabe interview transcript. The conversation is about that transcript, check out McCabe's answer:

https://i.imgur.com/FvtYbdvl.png

Now that is pretty god damn amazing1 Where did they get this alleged transcript from? Here's a CNN article from 2017, check it out:

British intelligence passed Trump associates' communications with Russians on to US counterparts

By Jim Sciutto, Pamela Brown and Eric Bradner, CNN

Updated 12:49 AM ET, Fri April 14, 2017

Washington (CNN)British and other European intelligence agencies intercepted communications between associates of Donald Trump and Russian officials and other Russian individuals during the campaign and passed on those communications to their US counterparts, US congressional and law enforcement and US and European intelligence sources tell CNN.

The communications were captured during routine surveillance of Russian officials and other Russians known to western intelligence. British and European intelligence agencies, including GCHQ, the British intelligence agency responsible for communications surveillance, were not proactively targeting members of the Trump team but rather picked up these communications during what's known as "incidental collection," these sources tell CNN.

The European intelligence agencies detected multiple communications over several months between the Trump associates and Russian individuals -- and passed on that intelligence to the US. The US and Britain are part of the so-called "Five Eyes" agreement (along with Canada, Australia and New Zealand), which calls for open sharing among member nations of a broad range of intelligence.
https://www.cnn.com/2017/04/13/politics/trump-russia-british-intelligence/index.html

Tell me, could John Brennan have been using foreign intelligence services to farm out an investigation against the President that would have put him in jail for conducting doing it here? That aside, where are the transcripts nobody can seem to find them now. And what the Hell were they unmasking before and after December 29, 2016?
 
The government claims they were worried about a phone call made between Flynn and the Russian Ambassador, right? Well looking at the declassified list of names unmasking Flynn one can't find an unmasking request made on the day of the call, December 29, 2016. There's all kinds of requests but not on that day...why? How could the government know about the call if it wasn't monitored and transcribed? How was it transferred, by word of mouth, who knows? Where are the transcripts of the call? Well take a look at this on page 213 of the now declassified Andrew McCabe interview transcript. The conversation is about that transcript, check out McCabe's answer:

https://i.imgur.com/FvtYbdvl.png

Now that is pretty god damn amazing1 Where did they get this alleged transcript from? Here's a CNN article from 2017, check it out:

British intelligence passed Trump associates' communications with Russians on to US counterparts

By Jim Sciutto, Pamela Brown and Eric Bradner, CNN

Updated 12:49 AM ET, Fri April 14, 2017

Washington (CNN)British and other European intelligence agencies intercepted communications between associates of Donald Trump and Russian officials and other Russian individuals during the campaign and passed on those communications to their US counterparts, US congressional and law enforcement and US and European intelligence sources tell CNN.

The communications were captured during routine surveillance of Russian officials and other Russians known to western intelligence. British and European intelligence agencies, including GCHQ, the British intelligence agency responsible for communications surveillance, were not proactively targeting members of the Trump team but rather picked up these communications during what's known as "incidental collection," these sources tell CNN.

The European intelligence agencies detected multiple communications over several months between the Trump associates and Russian individuals -- and passed on that intelligence to the US. The US and Britain are part of the so-called "Five Eyes" agreement (along with Canada, Australia and New Zealand), which calls for open sharing among member nations of a broad range of intelligence.
https://www.cnn.com/2017/04/13/politics/trump-russia-british-intelligence/index.html

Tell me, could John Brennan have been using foreign intelligence services to farm out an investigation against the President that would have put him in jail for conducting doing it here? That aside, where are the transcripts nobody can seem to find them now. And what the Hell were they unmasking before and after December 29, 2016?

What are "associates?" A term so vague as to defy description without exact names being used.
 
Tell me, could John Brennan have been using foreign intelligence services to farm out an investigation against the President that would have put him in jail for conducting doing it here?

I can't know of course, but it wouldn't surprise me if that sort of cross-agency collaboration would be in fact quite common. An alternative possibilty is proactive selective sharing according to self interests, in this case, British intelligence working against Trump on their own, without previous prompt, but identifying possibly interested parties for supply.
 
What are "associates?" A term so vague as to defy description without exact names being used.

I think it means anyone that can be associated with Donald Trump, personal, business, and political associates. I think this surveillance conspiracy may be far wider in scope than we thought, so illegal and far reaching it was farmed out to foreign intelligence agencies. Nunes in discussing the revelations in the Flynn case with Marie Bartiromo, said it gets much worse. The one thing that has been proven beyond a doubt and that is Shiff's Intel report was 100% bullshit and Devin Nunes' report has been fully vindicated.
 
I can't know of course, but it wouldn't surprise me if that sort of cross-agency collaboration would be in fact quite common. An alternative possibilty is proactive selective sharing according to self interests, in this case, British intelligence working against Trump on their own, without previous prompt, but identifying possibly interested parties for supply.

It's been said the line of inquiry involving Flynn was shut down in panic by foreign intel agencies involved the day Trump was elected, for fear of upsetting the alliance with the new President. They knew they would have been discovered by the new incoming National Security Director.

The day of the January 5, 2017 White House meeting with Obama, Biden, Comey, et al, was the same day, according to testimony by Christopher Steele, he wiped all evidence of the Dossier from his computer.
 
I think it means anyone that can be associated with Donald Trump, personal, business, and political associates. I think this surveillance conspiracy may be far wider in scope than we thought, so illegal and far reaching it was farmed out to foreign intelligence agencies. Nunes in discussing the revelations in the Flynn case with Marie Bartiromo, said it gets much worse. The one thing that has been proven beyond a doubt and that is Shiff's Intel report was 100% bullshit and Devin Nunes' report has been fully vindicated.

It’s hardly a strong case when the first two statements begin with “I think”...

The judge may require something a little more definitive.:rolleyes:

But then that’s how you guys roll. Sort of like Trump with his “I heard someone say...”
 
It’s hardly a strong case when the first two statements begin with “I think”...

The judge may require something a little more definitive.:rolleyes:

But then that’s how you guys roll. Sort of like Trump with his “I heard someone say...”

I offered an opinion on the word "associates," others will offer legal arguments in court; but it is clear Obama deep state conspirators went after everyone around Trump in order to get to him.
 
This could be the beginning of the end for Director Wray:

Trump wants FBI’s original ‘302’ report on Flynn case, says former adviser 'persecuted'
Edmund DeMarche
By Edmund DeMarche | Fox News

President Trump late Thursday night inquired about the fate of the FBI’s “302” report on the Michael Flynn case that officials say vanished after the president’s first national security adviser met with federal agents in January 2017.

“Where is the 302? It is missing. Was it stolen or destroyed? General Flynn is being persecuted!” Trump tweeted.

Rep. Devin Nunes, R-Calif., ranking member of the House Intelligence Committee, told Fox Business' Maria Bartiromo that the original 302 document — which typically summarizes witness interviews with agents — was “missing.” Nunes said the document is where Flynn is accused of lying to investigators.

Nunes laid out what he said he knows about the original report. He said it was written and transcribed and recalled FBI sources saying, “Look, there’s nothing to see here, Flynn wasn’t lying.”

The rest here:
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/tr...-in-flynn-case-says-former-adviser-persecuted
 
Nunes has been caught in enough lies that I’d need a lot more than his say so on anything.
 
This could be the beginning of the end for Director Wray:

Trump wants FBI’s original ‘302’ report on Flynn case, says former adviser 'persecuted'
Edmund DeMarche
By Edmund DeMarche | Fox News

President Trump late Thursday night inquired about the fate of the FBI’s “302” report on the Michael Flynn case that officials say vanished after the president’s first national security adviser met with federal agents in January 2017.

“Where is the 302? It is missing. Was it stolen or destroyed? General Flynn is being persecuted!” Trump tweeted.

Rep. Devin Nunes, R-Calif., ranking member of the House Intelligence Committee, told Fox Business' Maria Bartiromo that the original 302 document — which typically summarizes witness interviews with agents — was “missing.” Nunes said the document is where Flynn is accused of lying to investigators.

Nunes laid out what he said he knows about the original report. He said it was written and transcribed and recalled FBI sources saying, “Look, there’s nothing to see here, Flynn wasn’t lying.”

The rest here:
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/tr...-in-flynn-case-says-former-adviser-persecuted

Is Flynn still guilty of lying to everyone on the planet while under oath?
 
Let's see the transcripts of the call. If he took this to trial they'd be in evidence. All the rest is bullshit.


While doing that let's get to the bottom of Flynn getting paid $500,000 to represent Turkey's interests over Americana while spotting "America First", and how the pleading guilty to his lying to the FBI was more preferable to him than that investigation.
 
Is Flynn still guilty of lying to everyone on the planet while under oath?

Probably. Flynn lied.

Some liars pay the price.

Other liars (McCabe, Comey, Brennan, Yovanovich, Blasey Ford, Schiff, etc. ) get booty.

I wonder why that is...
 
It's been said the line of inquiry involving Flynn was shut down in panic by foreign intel agencies involved the day Trump was elected, for fear of upsetting the alliance with the new President. They knew they would have been discovered by the new incoming National Security Director.

The day of the January 5, 2017 White House meeting with Obama, Biden, Comey, et al, was the same day, according to testimony by Christopher Steele, he wiped all evidence of the Dossier from his computer.

https://i.imgur.com/WRefcVD.jpg?1
 
It's been said the line of inquiry involving Flynn was shut down in panic by foreign intel agencies involved the day Trump was elected, for fear of upsetting the alliance with the new President. They knew they would have been discovered by the new incoming National Security Director.

The day of the January 5, 2017 White House meeting with Obama, Biden, Comey, et al, was the same day, according to testimony by Christopher Steele, he wiped all evidence of the Dossier from his computer.

Then there’s the “It’s been said...” trick. Really? By whom, when, where?
 
Then there’s the “It’s been said...” trick. Really? By whom, when, where?

I've noticed this is a thing with him.

"I've heard"
"It's been said"
"People are saying"

Ask him to back anything up and you'll make his ignore list. :rolleyes:
 
The FBI said he didnt lie

Muller didnt charge him with anything nor anyone else

His 1st lawyers were working for the other side, and didnt represent Flynn, rather misled him

What planet do you live on? Trumptopia?
 
Let's see the transcripts of the call. If he took this to trial they'd be in evidence. All the rest is bullshit.


While doing that let's get to the bottom of Flynn getting paid $500,000 to represent Turkey's interests over Americana while spotting "America First", and how the pleading guilty to his lying to the FBI was more preferable to him than that investigation.

Read my post. The transcripts are missing, like the original 302s. There wasn't any transcripts to mask.
 
"Trump’s recent attack on Obama completes a classic story arc. Trump’s political career began with conspiracy-theory attacks on Obama. Trump’s “birtherism” theory was that Obama was born not in America but in Africa, and thus was ineligible to be president. After four years of promises to his base that have ended up in chaos, now characterized by death and unemployment, Trump has returned to where he began, with a conspiracy-theory attack on Obama.

In literature, that narrative arc—the return to the beginning—means the story is nearing its end."
 
So show me those lies.

Dohncha know, they're all listed in numerical order the Schiffty Schiff memo that outlines all of the Russian Collusion evidence hiding in plain sight.


Tht didn't work out very well for you two. :)
 
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