One more time. It is not illegal to shoot somebody, except under certain circumstances as defined by law. You seem to think otherwise. You are wrong.
So when is this "Honest" discussion regarding race relations goint to occur?
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One more time. It is not illegal to shoot somebody, except under certain circumstances as defined by law. You seem to think otherwise. You are wrong.
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Darren Wilson's Michael Brown
Throughout his testimony and post-shooting interview with detectives, Wilson emphasized the size disparity between him and Brown. He tells detectives, "never at any point did I have control of him. I mean … he manipulated me, while I was in the vehicle, completely."
Wilson, who testified that he is 6'4 and around 210 lbs, told the grand jury that when he tried to grab Brown, "the only way to describe it is that I felt like a five-year-old holding onto Hulk Hogan." At one point, he said Brown looked like a "demon." He also expressed concern that Brown could have possibly killed him with a punch to the face.
http://www.vox.com/2014/11/25/7283327/michael-brown-racist-stereotypes
Wilson backs his car up and begins to open the door. "Hey, come here," he said to the kid who just cursed at him. He says Brown replied, "What the fuck you gonna do?" And then Brown, in Wilson's telling, slams the car door closed. Wilson tries to open the door again, tells Brown to get back, and then Brown leans into the vehicle and begins punching him.
Let's take a breath and recap. Wilson sees two young black men walking in the middle of the street. He pulls over and politely asks them to use the sidewalk. They refuse. He asks again, still polite. Brown tells Wilson — again, a uniformed police officer in a police car — "fuck what you have to say." Wilson stops his car, tries to get out, and Brown slams the car door on him and then begins punching him through the open window.
What happens next is the most unbelievable moment in the narrative. And so it's probably best that I just quote Wilson's account at length on it.
I was doing the, just scrambling, trying to get his arms out of my face and him from grabbing me and everything else. He turned to his...if he's at my vehicle, he turned to his left and handed the first subject. He said, "here, take these." He was holding a pack of — several packs of cigarillos which was just, what was stolen from the Market Store was several packs of cigarillos. He said, "here, hold these" and when he did that I grabbed his right arm trying just to control something at that point. Um, as I was holding it, and he came around, he came around with his arm extended, fist made, and went like that straight at my face with his...a full swing from his left hand.
So Brown is punching inside the car. Wilson is scrambling to deflect the blows, to protect his face, to regain control of the situation. And then Brown stops, turns to his left, says to his friend, "Here, hold these," and hands him the cigarillos stolen from Ferguson Market. Then he turns back to Wilson and, with his left hand now freed from holding the contraband goods, throws a haymaker at Wilson.
Officer Darren Wilson's story is unbelievable. Literally.
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-_MxmFniS0-4/U_OjGAklJJI/AAAAAAAALNw/DvKAK1a0uA8/s1600/The-Eyes-Have-It.jpg
http://rack.3.mshcdn.com/media/ZgkyMDE0LzExLzI1LzFmL2RhcnJlbndpbHNvLjMyMmQzLmpwZwpwCXRodW1iCTk1MHg1MzQjCmUJanBn/670e5999/8ae/darren-wilson.jpg
Yeah.
Battled with a demon.
No receipts for this at all.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B33AD7mCAAEYpGt.png
Dunzo.
$500,000 In Donations — And Possibly More On The Way
While the Brown family received funds from supporters across the United States, Darren Wilson supporters were busy collecting donations for the embattled officer — and the final total may make him a millionaire. An anonymous woman who reportedly started three pro-Darren Wilson Facebook pages — “We Are Darren Wilson,” “I Support Officer Wilson” and “Support Darren Wilson” — told The Daily Mail that her backers have raised around $500,000 for the former police officer. However, this number was just a “conservative” estimate, she said. She added that when all is said and done, that number may easily jump into the seven figures.
To raise these donations, the unnamed woman began selling “I Stand By Darren Wilson” shirts and wristbands at rallies in the St. Louis area. The “We Are Darren Wilson” page also has an accompanying GoFundMe account, which was created in early November. So far, just $2,075 has been raised through that page.
However, a previous GoFundMe account sponsored by Wilson supporters raised more than $235,000 before abruptly closing its donations in early September. A separate fundraising page ran by the police organization and certified charity Shield Of Hope had raised nearly $200,000 when it also disappeared in early September.
http://www.bustle.com/articles/51447-how-much-money-has-darren-wilson-made-despite-his-resignation-the-ex-officers-finances-are-probably-in
Darren Wilson Resigns With Alleged $1,000,000 ‘War Chest’
Supporters reportedly raised money for the officer, who has been on paid leave since the Aug. 9 shooting.
BY: LYNETTE HOLLOWAY
Posted: Nov. 30 2014 7:59 AM
His attorney, Neil Bruntrager, announced Saturday that Wilson would be stepping down and his resignation would be effective immediately, the Mail reports. In his resignation letter, Wilson said his presence put the residents and officers of Ferguson at risk.
The Mail reported last week that Wilson could have a $1 million “war chest” from online fundraisers held by supporters. One woman who started the fund drive told the news agency that she has been the subject of threats.
Wilson, who was on paid leave since the Aug. 9 shooting, has not racked up large legal fees because his lawyers were all from the police union and the Ferguson Police Department likely covered the cost of hiding him until the grand jury decision was announced, the report says.
There were reports that he had been paid up to six figures for his first television news interview after the grand jury decision, but Wilson strenuously denied the claim, saying he "wouldn't jeopardize" his integrity for money, the Mail writes.
Further, Julie Townsend, a spokewoman for ABC News, which nabbed the first interview, told Richard Prince's Journal-isms, "We do not pay for interviews, and we did not pay for this interview. Period. "
http://www.theroot.com/articles/culture/2014/11/darren_wilson_resigns_with_alleged_1_000_000_war_chest.html
Of course he didn't accept money for the interview. Because integrity.
Throughout his testimony and post-shooting interview with detectives, Wilson emphasized the size disparity between him and Brown. He tells detectives, "never at any point did I have control of him. I mean … he manipulated me, while I was in the vehicle, completely."
Wilson, who testified that he is 6'4 and around 210 lbs, told the grand jury that when he tried to grab Brown, "the only way to describe it is that I felt like a five-year-old holding onto Hulk Hogan." At one point, he said Brown looked like a "demon." He also expressed concern that Brown could have possibly killed him with a punch to the face.
http://www.vox.com/2014/11/25/7283327/michael-brown-racist-stereotypes
Wilson backs his car up and begins to open the door. "Hey, come here," he said to the kid who just cursed at him. He says Brown replied, "What the fuck you gonna do?" And then Brown, in Wilson's telling, slams the car door closed. Wilson tries to open the door again, tells Brown to get back, and then Brown leans into the vehicle and begins punching him.
Let's take a breath and recap. Wilson sees two young black men walking in the middle of the street. He pulls over and politely asks them to use the sidewalk. They refuse. He asks again, still polite. Brown tells Wilson — again, a uniformed police officer in a police car — "fuck what you have to say." Wilson stops his car, tries to get out, and Brown slams the car door on him and then begins punching him through the open window.
What happens next is the most unbelievable moment in the narrative. And so it's probably best that I just quote Wilson's account at length on it.
I was doing the, just scrambling, trying to get his arms out of my face and him from grabbing me and everything else. He turned to his...if he's at my vehicle, he turned to his left and handed the first subject. He said, "here, take these." He was holding a pack of — several packs of cigarillos which was just, what was stolen from the Market Store was several packs of cigarillos. He said, "here, hold these" and when he did that I grabbed his right arm trying just to control something at that point. Um, as I was holding it, and he came around, he came around with his arm extended, fist made, and went like that straight at my face with his...a full swing from his left hand.
So Brown is punching inside the car. Wilson is scrambling to deflect the blows, to protect his face, to regain control of the situation. And then Brown stops, turns to his left, says to his friend, "Here, hold these," and hands him the cigarillos stolen from Ferguson Market. Then he turns back to Wilson and, with his left hand now freed from holding the contraband goods, throws a haymaker at Wilson.
Officer Darren Wilson's story is unbelievable. Literally.
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-_MxmFniS0-4/U_OjGAklJJI/AAAAAAAALNw/DvKAK1a0uA8/s1600/The-Eyes-Have-It.jpg
http://rack.3.mshcdn.com/media/ZgkyMDE0LzExLzI1LzFmL2RhcnJlbndpbHNvLjMyMmQzLmpwZwpwCXRodW1iCTk1MHg1MzQjCmUJanBn/670e5999/8ae/darren-wilson.jpg
Yeah.
Battled with a demon.
No receipts for this at all.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B33AD7mCAAEYpGt.png
Dunzo.
$500,000 In Donations — And Possibly More On The Way
While the Brown family received funds from supporters across the United States, Darren Wilson supporters were busy collecting donations for the embattled officer — and the final total may make him a millionaire. An anonymous woman who reportedly started three pro-Darren Wilson Facebook pages — “We Are Darren Wilson,” “I Support Officer Wilson” and “Support Darren Wilson” — told The Daily Mail that her backers have raised around $500,000 for the former police officer. However, this number was just a “conservative” estimate, she said. She added that when all is said and done, that number may easily jump into the seven figures.
To raise these donations, the unnamed woman began selling “I Stand By Darren Wilson” shirts and wristbands at rallies in the St. Louis area. The “We Are Darren Wilson” page also has an accompanying GoFundMe account, which was created in early November. So far, just $2,075 has been raised through that page.
However, a previous GoFundMe account sponsored by Wilson supporters raised more than $235,000 before abruptly closing its donations in early September. A separate fundraising page ran by the police organization and certified charity Shield Of Hope had raised nearly $200,000 when it also disappeared in early September.
http://www.bustle.com/articles/51447-how-much-money-has-darren-wilson-made-despite-his-resignation-the-ex-officers-finances-are-probably-in
Darren Wilson Resigns With Alleged $1,000,000 ‘War Chest’
Supporters reportedly raised money for the officer, who has been on paid leave since the Aug. 9 shooting.
BY: LYNETTE HOLLOWAY
Posted: Nov. 30 2014 7:59 AM
His attorney, Neil Bruntrager, announced Saturday that Wilson would be stepping down and his resignation would be effective immediately, the Mail reports. In his resignation letter, Wilson said his presence put the residents and officers of Ferguson at risk.
The Mail reported last week that Wilson could have a $1 million “war chest” from online fundraisers held by supporters. One woman who started the fund drive told the news agency that she has been the subject of threats.
Wilson, who was on paid leave since the Aug. 9 shooting, has not racked up large legal fees because his lawyers were all from the police union and the Ferguson Police Department likely covered the cost of hiding him until the grand jury decision was announced, the report says.
There were reports that he had been paid up to six figures for his first television news interview after the grand jury decision, but Wilson strenuously denied the claim, saying he "wouldn't jeopardize" his integrity for money, the Mail writes.
Further, Julie Townsend, a spokewoman for ABC News, which nabbed the first interview, told Richard Prince's Journal-isms, "We do not pay for interviews, and we did not pay for this interview. Period. "
http://www.theroot.com/articles/culture/2014/11/darren_wilson_resigns_with_alleged_1_000_000_war_chest.html
Of course he didn't accept money for the interview. Because integrity.
"What happens next is the most unbelievable moment in the narrative. And so it's probably best that I just quote Wilson's account at length on it.
I was doing the, just scrambling, trying to get his arms out of my face and him from grabbing me and everything else. He turned to his...if he's at my vehicle, he turned to his left and handed the first subject. He said, "here, take these." He was holding a pack of — several packs of cigarillos which was just, what was stolen from the Market Store was several packs of cigarillos. He said, "here, hold these" and when he did that I grabbed his right arm trying just to control something at that point. Um, as I was holding it, and he came around, he came around with his arm extended, fist made, and went like that straight at my face with his...a full swing from his left hand.
So Brown is punching inside the car. Wilson is scrambling to deflect the blows, to protect his face, to regain control of the situation. And then Brown stops, turns to his left, says to his friend, "Here, hold these," and hands him the cigarillos stolen from Ferguson Market. Then he turns back to Wilson and, with his left hand now freed from holding the contraband goods, throws a haymaker at Wilson."
What is unbelievable about this account of what happened?
I was doing the, just scrambling, trying to get his arms out of my face and him from grabbing me and everything else. He turned to his...if he's at my vehicle, he turned to his left and handed the first subject. He said, "here, take these." He was holding a pack of — several packs of cigarillos which was just, what was stolen from the Market Store was several packs of cigarillos. He said, "here, hold these" and when he did that I grabbed his right arm trying just to control something at that point. Um, as I was holding it, and he came around, he came around with his arm extended, fist made, and went like that straight at my face with his...a full swing from his left hand.
So Brown is punching inside the car. Wilson is scrambling to deflect the blows, to protect his face, to regain control of the situation. And then Brown stops, turns to his left, says to his friend, "Here, hold these," and hands him the cigarillos stolen from Ferguson Market. Then he turns back to Wilson and, with his left hand now freed from holding the contraband goods, throws a haymaker at Wilson."
What is unbelievable about this account of what happened?
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So what happened to the clerk? Did Mike's parents pay the clerk? did his store get looted or burned?
will you shut up n go to bed
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I see the thread had turned into another bitch fest re. Brown et al. The Martin/Brown/Garner incidents are mere blips, symptoms if you will, not causes. It's like saying the patient has a virus without ascertaining what virus the patient has before starting treatment. Pointless discussions that get us no closer to understanding the problems than we were before.
"White Privilege" I hear a lot about that now a days, but exactly what in the hell is it? From Wikipedia we get this;
While this [quote]'This leads to the controversy over whether or not White people should be able to enjoy these privileges."[/quote] comes from the same paragraph.
Excuse me, but shouldn't the conversation revolve around why minorities do NOT enjoy those privileges and how to secure them for minorities rather than taking those privileges, which are nothing more than the exercise of personal freedoms, away from any one?
Is "White Privilege" more a reflection of the American black burdening themselves with perceptions of society? Blacks that immigrate here from other nations don't seem to be burdened with these notions. They really want nothing to do with the indigenous black community and prosper here. And in their prosperity there may be a hint that this is a cultural issue that the American black has to struggle with.
To me the description of "White Privilege" is nothing more than free men exercising their liberties in a free nation. The notion that these so called "privileges" should be removed from a segment of the population is a case of "Igor's Goat" writ large. Reverse discrimination. Retribution. This is a failed philosophy for a minority to embrace. A negation of liberties that ultimately will only rebound back on them. A negation of the goal of a color blind society. A reinforcement of the trend of self-segregation that is already problematic. If "White Privilege" is indeed as described in the wikipedia entry then it should be a goal to aspire to, not something to be removed.
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"White Privilege" I hear a lot about that now a days, but exactly what in the hell is it? From Wikipedia we get this;
While this [quote]'This leads to the controversy over whether or not White people should be able to enjoy these privileges."[/quote] comes from the same paragraph.
Excuse me, but shouldn't the conversation revolve around why minorities do NOT enjoy those privileges and how to secure them for minorities rather than taking those privileges, which are nothing more than the exercise of personal freedoms, away from any one?
Is "White Privilege" more a reflection of the American black burdening themselves with perceptions of society? Blacks that immigrate here from other nations don't seem to be burdened with these notions. They really want nothing to do with the indigenous black community and prosper here. And in their prosperity there may be a hint that this is a cultural issue that the American black has to struggle with.
To me the description of "White Privilege" is nothing more than free men exercising their liberties in a free nation. The notion that these so called "privileges" should be removed from a segment of the population is a case of "Igor's Goat" writ large. Reverse discrimination. Retribution. This is a failed philosophy for a minority to embrace. A negation of liberties that ultimately will only rebound back on them. A negation of the goal of a color blind society. A reinforcement of the trend of self-segregation that is already problematic. If "White Privilege" is indeed as described in the wikipedia entry then it should be a goal to aspire to, not something to be removed.
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Few in America lose any sleep over blacks. We wish things were different but we feel the same for all who insist on wallowing in their mire. And when blacks wont leave the mire its best to walk away to invest time and treasure elsewhere.
Niggers and Libs need to get over their quest for Cosmic Justice. It don't exist. What exists is what you do or do not.
Niggers and Libs need to get over their quest for Cosmic Justice. It don't exist. What exists is what you do or do not.
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typical COLORED response
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So what happened to the clerk? Did Mike's parents pay the clerk? did his store get looted or burned?
That's a valid question. What type of restitution did he receive?
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We certainly can't have an honest discussion with idiots like this on the loose:
Arson, Looting 'Not Necessarily Violence'
Next time you're assembling a criminal defense team, remember to forget Melissa Harris-Perry. On her MSNBC show today, MH-P commented on the news that authorities are considering charges against Michael Brown's stepfather Louis Head, who on the night the grand jury declined to indict, jumped on a car and implored the crowd "burn this mother------ down! Burn this b--ch down!" Numerous buildings were thereafter torched.
Argued Harris-Perry: "arson and looting . . . are not necessarily violence." She added that those crimes should bear a "legal difference" from violence against "bodies." Even if you accept Harris-Perry's premise [I would argue that arson, which brings the real risk of endangering lives, is violent], so what? Assault isn't as bad as murder, either. That doesn't mean you don't prosecute the former, only that the punishment must fit the crime.
Arson, Looting 'Not Necessarily Violence'
Next time you're assembling a criminal defense team, remember to forget Melissa Harris-Perry. On her MSNBC show today, MH-P commented on the news that authorities are considering charges against Michael Brown's stepfather Louis Head, who on the night the grand jury declined to indict, jumped on a car and implored the crowd "burn this mother------ down! Burn this b--ch down!" Numerous buildings were thereafter torched.
Argued Harris-Perry: "arson and looting . . . are not necessarily violence." She added that those crimes should bear a "legal difference" from violence against "bodies." Even if you accept Harris-Perry's premise [I would argue that arson, which brings the real risk of endangering lives, is violent], so what? Assault isn't as bad as murder, either. That doesn't mean you don't prosecute the former, only that the punishment must fit the crime.
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I see the steadfast defenders of White Privilege are out in full-throated roar this morning.
#WhiteLightWhiteHeatWhiteTrash
#WhiteLightWhiteHeatWhiteTrash
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I see the steadfast defenders of White Privilege are out in full-throated roar this morning.
#WhiteLightWhiteHeatWhiteTrash
examples of such
tell us
its OK
#wewillwait
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Nope. His Hash-tag was longer than yours so #HeWins.
#literoticahasneverbeenhashtagenabledsoaddingapoundsignismeaninglessbutitmakesbobsdownsouthfeelhipdonotencouragehim.
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Exactly so. In order to defend or attack there must be a definition that every one can agree on. If he can't define it, it doesn't exist.
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I see the steadfast defenders of White Privilege are out in full-throated roar this morning.
#WhiteLightWhiteHeatWhiteTrash
Youre fucking right on assclown.
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Nothing exists
They cant defend anything
Hence they hurl meaningless words
To #shutusup
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I guess Robby cant answer
Cause he is busy
Working,
The word you want is WANKING.
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*chuckle* move the goalposts, why dontcha.
You and your bros have a long documented history of redefining terms more to your liking. Hell, even kbate does it (remember when she redefined "racism" as "saying anything positive about any race"? I do!)
Let's use the wikipedia definition as a baseline.
Then let's talk about your assertion that the black community as a whole is responsible for the conduct of its members. Notice how you single out the black community for a standard that you exempt the white community from. (and by the way, if you feel the white community IS in fact responsible for the conduct of it's members, please tell us. One would think that'd run counter to the Gospel of Bootstrappyness and Rugged Individualism you preach, but ideological consistency has never been one of your trademarks).
If you hold the black community to a different standard than you do the white community, which you appear to do, please explain to us how that is NOT a textbook case of "White Privilege".
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no, we AXED you
of examples from our writings this AM
as you asserted
aren't you supposed to be #working?
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