So when is this "Honest" discussion regarding race relations goint to occur?

[4est_4est_Gump]

There is an implicit bigotry in the idea rioting is the only avenue for expression that the "black community' has. The eyes of the nation are there. Can no one so impasshioned simply use their words and write a piece, or give an oration? It has to include looting?

I don't think this has as much to do with race as it does the feralization of a permanent underclass who riots not because they are outraged, but because it is an expression of their "culture." This is a direct result of Liberalism gone too far under the auspices of moral relativism. They behave badly and we turn to angst, concern and understanding for their refusal to reach their full human potential.

I know this raises the ire of many of you, but I do not care and I will continue to say it because as pointed out right before query's post, it was pointed out how many other groups came to America and experienced poverty, hardship and discrimination which was shaken off after a generation or two because of a more conservative national foundation that said, yes, if you help yourself, we will help you. Now we just say, we understand, we empathize, what do you need? From each according to his ability, to each according to his need and who the hell are you to define either? That's the job of the Social Consensus (guided by the Liberal Intelligentsia).

 

[Kitty]

28 pages of this thread and other than inane comments from the Hitler youth, we have no clue into WHY black men are statistically more violent.

Hitler youth! http://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/images/smilies/fuhrer.gif
ARE they statistically more violent. Please read my most recent comment, and follow the procedure. Sure they might have the highest ratio aka likelihood of committing a crime, but they aren't necessarily the most people doing it. And certainly not the only. So it's not exclusively a concern about why black men do it; don't single them out. The nobler goal is to figure out why there is crime in humanity, not just the black race.

But I'm sure we can deduce black crime to, institutionalized discrimination and the glass ceiling. It's...really no headscratcher, folks. Also, a lack of personal values but that can be anyone from any background.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

jesus fuck,

There's the single biggest bit of revisionist bullshite ever posted on this board.

I lived it.

I experienced it.



Once again, I believe you are popping off on your fantasies of how life works.

Not only that, but a page or two later, I even posted some supporting material pointing out the new black flight...

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

I'm curious as to why you're so fucking ignorant. I provided the source for you to look it up for yourself, but apparently you're either to fucking lazy or too fucking stupid to do so.

But more to your point I don't BELIEVE that blacks commit more violent crimes as a proportion of the population, I KNOW that they do because the fucking national statistics for the past 40 years tell me the I fucking KNOW.

So, why don't you know shit?

Ishmael

They just get thrown in jail more often..

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Why do you think that black men commit more violent crimes than any other racial or ethnic group?

Do you believe that it is caused by genetics or some other social factors?

Why do you feel that is is your privilege to believe something without any fact or proof while denying facts in evidence by those making a point that you do not much agree with? One-liners and scorn are not a conversation, but that has become the tell fo the dedicated Democrat demographic.

 

[kbate]

I lived it.

I experienced it.


Once again, I believe you are popping off on your fantasies of how life works.

Ah, so again "You're an Authority".

Your story about White Flight is as whimsical and farcical as Vetteman's theory that the South went over to Republicans out of anger about Vietnam.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

No family structure, no dad at home to teach their sons the rules. When these young men get into their teens they get over on their mothers and make their own rules. Instead of father figures to emulate, many have have gang structures and affiliations to look up to.

See my post above.

Sometimes, when you are immersed in a culture of low expectation enforced by moral busybody nannies, you don;t really have a choice to self-actualize your true humanity. You can get off the plantation of physical chains, but you cannot ever escape the plantation of the mental bondage.

 

[unregistered]

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Ah, so again "You're an Authority".

Your story about White Flight is as whimsical and farcical as Vetteman's theory that the South went over to Republicans out of anger about Vietnam.

Read on, look for the chart, follow the link, see some facts.

 

[Kitty]

They just get thrown in jail more often..

And that's something to smile about. Now let's start with the Holocaust and Trail of Tears jokes. *claps hands*

 

[Kitty]

Ah, so again "You're an Authority".

Your story about White Flight is as whimsical and farcical as Vetteman's theory that the South went over to Republicans out of anger about Vietnam.

At first I thought it was misogyny. Then I learned it was just ordinary, regular, boring old ignorance.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Since you won't look; too busy hiding behind your false sense of know-everything-there-is-to-be-known-about-everything-including-close-quarter-combat,

I went and got it for you:

[repost]

White flight was not a reaction to the presence of black people in the community.

It was a reaction to Liberal Democrat politicians and their proclivity to redistribution and program instead of focusing on staying out of the way of equal opportunity by the way of creating needless and false "opportunities."

So if you do not like what has happened in the cities, then blame the true culprit, the white self-righteous moral busybody that is the 60s era liberal who decided to put down his pipe bomb in order to infiltrate the colleges and and take over the leadership of the Democrat Party.

kbate, guess what I just stumbled upon?

The classic image of an American metropolis was that of a polyglot city surrounded by mostly white suburbs—the “chocolate city/vanilla suburbs” of the 1950s and 1960s, when white-dominated suburbanization left largely black minority populations stranded in many of the nation’s largest cities. That paradigm has almost entirely broken down. The rise of new minority populations, the sharp slowdown of white population growth, and the economic gains and increased residential freedom of new generations of blacks are rapidly changing the classic image of the suburban American dream. Together these trends paint a picture markedly different from the one etched in the minds of pollsters, political consultants, and the public at large.

As recently as 1980, less than one-half of metropolitan minorities resided in the suburbs. Only beginning in 1990 did more than half of metropolitan Asians become suburban residents, while Hispanics did not reach that tipping point until 2000. Moreover, it was not until 2010 that more than half of metropolitan blacks became suburban residents. An important milestone was passed when that year’s census became the first to show a majority of each of the nation’s largest racial minority groups residing in the suburbs. And those communities will only become more diverse in the years to come: Each of the major minority groups—Hispanics, Asians, and blacks—now contributes more than whites to suburban gains.

http://wp.newrepublic.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/Figure8.1-1-624x526.jpg

Another factor driving the diversification of the suburbs is the emergence of “black flight” from major cities with established black populations. Black population losses have been occurring in some cities since the 1970s, but the magnitude and pervasiveness of black losses in cities during the first decade of the 2000s were unprecedented. The central cities of the 100 largest metropolitan areas saw a total decline of 300,000 blacks, the first absolute population decrease among blacks for these cities as a group. The black presence, which has been the mainstay of many urban populations, is diminishing (in fact it is now Hispanics, not blacks, who constitute the largest minority group in cities).

http://www.newrepublic.com/article/120372/white-suburbs-are-more-and-more-thing-past



[my original post]

White flight was not a reaction to the presence of black people in the community.

It was a reaction to Liberal Democrat politicians and their proclivity to redistribution and program instead of focusing on staying out of the way of equal opportunity by the way of creating needless and false "opportunities."

So if you do not like what has happened in the cities, then blame the true culprit, the white self-righteous moral busybody that is the 60s era liberal who decided to put down his pipe bomb in order to infiltrate the colleges and and take over the leadership of the Democrat Party.

 

[unregistered]

 

[Kitty]

This is getting redundant.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

And that's something to smile about. Now let's start with the Holocaust and Trail of Tears jokes. *claps hands*

My grandmother was Cherokee you stupid fucking cunt with nothing to offer in any thread composed of anything less than dishonest discussion.

Off to iggy you go. I'm tired of wading through your playground bullshit, especially when you do not understand the subtlety, in context, of what I just posted, a pertinent post.

 

[Jennifer]

I can answer that one very easy.
Yes it is genetic. Most things people do is the result of genetics.

To make it simple. Do you see any difference in a pit bull and a lab?
The difference is genetics. They both have been bred for certain genetics for years.
How about cattle. See the difference in an angus and a jersey? Same thing. They were bred for certain genetic traits.
Maybe horses. Look at a race horse and a draft horse.
Genetics makes the black race different than other races more so than just the color of their skin. Each race was bred by nature for certain genetic traits.
The traits are different in all races. Color is not the only difference.

So are you hypothesizing that nature beats nurture? In every instance?

 

[GimpyIntellect]

Is it weird that the most annoying thing I find in this thread is Kitty92's signature?

 

[Kitty]

My grandmother was Cherokee you stupid fucking cunt with nothing to offer in any thread composed of anything less than dishonest discussion.

Off to iggy you go. I'm tired of wading through your playground bullshit, especially when you do not understand the subtlety, in context, of what I just posted, a pertinent post.

Of course she was. And I'm the least dishonest person on here. "Stupid fucking cunt." I'd rather be ignored by some angry, sterile misogynist like you.

 

[Sean Renaud]

So are you hypothesizing that nature beats nurture? In every instance?

Clearly not in every case but he implying it's one of if not thee most important factor.

 

[Kitty]

So are you hypothesizing that nature beats nurture? In every instance?

He just used animals to make an analogy about black DNA. Why bother with the guy.

 

[Jennifer]

Clearly not in every case but he implying it's one of if not thee most important factor.

Hmm. I wonder which chain of polypeptides is the one that makes them more violent.

 

[zipman]

They were angered by the perfidy of the Democrat Party during the war.

Too damn funny!

 

[Kitty]

Hmm. I wonder which chain of polypeptides is the one that makes them more violent.

This chain:
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_jJZqOMOgVcc/TS48yxYDvAI/AAAAAAAAAWY/nTptNJD5Rs8/s1600/biz-markie+gold+chain.jpg

 

[Sean Renaud]

Hmm. I wonder which chain of polypeptides is the one that makes them more violent.

Even assuming I bought his theory, which I'm at best not entirely opposed to I think we have a problem in the US at any rate that arrests rates are shown to be so completely out of whack that the stats are utterly pointless.

 

[Jennifer]

Even assuming I bought his theory, which I'm at best not entirely opposed to I think we have a problem in the US at any rate that arrests rates are shown to be so completely out of whack that the stats are utterly pointless.

Agreed.