So... What next?

entitled

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i'm going to apologize now for whatever this post ends up being. Aside from long. i was put in a contemplative mood earlier today (THANKS, Stella :p ) and haven't pulled myself out yet. Therefore... rambling!

It's no secret about what's been going on in my life lately. There's going to be some major changes as soon as i can make them happen. The thought of actually going through with them makes me wary, though.

After being married for six years, i've realized the person i used to be is gone. There's nothing left of her except the need to laugh with other people. My tastes in nearly everything has changed. A 'friend' asked me the last time i talked to him about where i thought our relationship could go. It was the first time i had to honestly tell somebody that i had no earthly idea, and that it scared me.

That must not have gone over well. i haven't heard from him since.

That hurt more deeply than i'd like to admit. He was the one i had truly been leaning on. He knows more about my current situation than anybody else. He was the one i leaned on and relied on - and he knew it. If i weren't so afraid of being hurt this badly again, i could easily have fallen for him.

That being hurt is another thing. How did i allow myself to be drawn into this, to be changed this much BY HIM without realizing it was happening? How did he turn what was once a confident person into a mass of insecurities? Honestly, that's what's happened. When he did... the first major thing he did, nearly five years ago, i would have just packed and run if i had been physically able. Taken the kids and gone. i was sure enough of myself to have researched houses for sale, job markets, schools, things of that sort in a couple of areas.

How he convinced me to stay, i'll never know. That was the beginning of the losing of myself. That was when 'we' decided that it would be best for me to be a stay at home mom. It made sense. i made no fuss about it - until i realized how lonely it was without a job. Both the kids i had at the time were less than two years old, i had no friends in the area, all the people i knew were either inlaws (not good) or people i had worked with.

Then starts the controlling... It's not a good idea for me to go to church (yes, i went to church, even though i'm not a christian. i needed to be around people) because i needed time away from the kids. Then it wasn't good for me to be spending so much time on the computer. It wasn't good for me to be outside so much, messing with flowers that 'ain't gonna grow anyway' - because the neighbors could see me in my shorts.

On top of that was absolute sexual frustration. Before that first incident, i was topping from the bottom. i'll admit to being an absolute submissive. Just have to warn people that sass and attitude come along with me. It's not in my nature to have to instruct people that should hold sway over me. It simply feels wrong. After that incident, he slept on the bed and i slept on the couch for well over a year. The first night i finally got lonely enough to sleep with him again, i ended up both unsatisfied and pregnant. Again.

Then it started in earnest.

It finally got to the point that i told him to piss off. i wanted something to myself. He was done controlling every last aspect of my life. i joined the SCA and started going to meetings, fighter practices, events... without his consent. That didn't make him happy at all.

He didn't take it out on me physically. There were other ways. Mental games, toying with emotions, things of that sort. If you've never been in that type of situation, pray it doesn't happen. It wears at you. Breaks down your mind. It has an effect on everything you do.

The last straw was this past September. i'd been asking him for years to go to counselling with me. This whole time, i had faith that we could work things out, even if we needed help. He finally agreed, picked a counsellor, and we went. One time. i went with him ONE TIME. In that one session, the start of it all came up. i told my version, and he told his - and he laughed through the whole thing.

You have to understand, from day one of our relationship, i made it clear that what happened was the one thing i could not, under any circumstances, deal with. At that point, it was my one hard limit. It happened anyway - then he laughed about it. i nearly had a breakdown in that room. i could feel my mind trying to shut itself off and had to fight it to the point that i couldn't pay any sort of attention to anything else going on.

i couldn't talk to him for days.

i refused to go back to the counseling sessions, though he kept going.

Finally i realized that something had to change. i told him that my mind was made up, that i was filing for divorce. He threatened to make me take a mental exam before allowing me to have even partial custody of the kids. After having my emotions squashed for so long, and a few other things, there's a possibility that i won't pass if this happens. That means losing my kids. That wouldn't work. My life has been built around them. Raising them is all i've done for nearly five years.

Still, there's strength left in me. i'm going through with it anyway. i have to. But... where does it leave me?

i'll have to start over again. New place to live, have to find a job, a way to support myself (and the kids, if i get partial custody), have to make new friends, everything. i'll even have to rediscover myself sexually. Providing i can find a willing partner.

It's confusing.

i'm lost, and overwhelmed.
 
I'm not so sure you won't pass that exam kid....but I do understand the hesitation. Bad thing is, so does he...and he is counting on it.

So maybe you don't go back to that counseler. But if you are worried about how you will come out being viewed in a pysche exam, go to a source. Choose a different one is all.

'course, I don't know where or how you stand as far as access and affordablility stand, but I would try to do it by hook or by crook.

if you want to know if the water is cold, ask the guy with his feet in the river....
 
Oh, Ent.
I don't know what to say, yet- I hope I didn't stir you up too horribly!
I feel responsible for your mood just now.
I remember our conversation.
I flirt all the time on this board, and sometimes realise that I am pushing buttons without any thought to someone else's comfort.
I just wanted to say that I've read your post, and I'll respond with anything I can think of- as it comes to me- but for right now- I have hugs and encouragement for you.
 
Stella_Omega said:
Oh, Ent.
I don't know what to say, yet- I hope I didn't stir you up too horribly!
I feel responsible for your mood just now.
I remember our conversation.
I flirt all the time on this board, and sometimes realise that I am pushing buttons without any thought to someone else's comfort.
I just wanted to say that I've read your post, and I'll respond with anything I can think of- as it comes to me- but for right now- I have hugs and encouragement for you.
Don't worry, dearie. The mood was half there already.
That's what happens when i thoroughly enjoy myself during a day away from all of this, then have to come home to it again.

Not giving up yet, just getting it out of the system so i can go on with life.

:kiss:
 
I've been in somewhat the same situation, except minus the kids. The only thing I can tell you is what my sister told me. Grab your back bone and all the self respect you can muster and go. Do what you have to do to survive and then live. She was in an abusive relationship for years that left her physically and mentally scarred before she got out, and she's my hero. If she can, you can. And if you need to, you have friends here to talk to. Good luck. My prayers and as much of my strength as I can send to you are with you. Danielle.
 
Entitled -we all know you can do it. We know you have the strength, the guile, the intelligence and thoughtfullness to do it and get yourself out of this horrid situation.

When you feel your resolve waiver, take mine, take ours. We're strong for you,we believe in you. Lean on us whenever you need to! :rose:
 
There's a small chance your kids know more than you think they might.

My sister was in a very controlling marriage for 20+ years. Shortly after they got married, he hit her during an arguement. She went back to our parents'. He made up and she went back. He never did hit her again. But he was emotionally abusive to her. Otherwise, the internet was really the only connection I had with her.

She didn't hardly ever see our family because it was all about him. When our father died, he let her come to the funeral, only because he was hoping they'd inherit something.

Whenever she wanted to do something, she'd have to make a deal. "I'll do X for you if you'll let me do Y."

He kept all the money, the check book was in his name only. He gave her $100 every two weeks to buy groceries for a family of four. He didn't want her to squirell away any money and leave him.

Finally, it was her kids that convinced her to leave him. By this time, the two boys were 20 and 18. When she mentioned to them that she was thinking of leaving their father, they explained why they were now sharing an apartment. They knew. They just didn't know why she put up with him.

Go ahead and GO! You owe it to yourself and your children. Don't let his B/S about psyche testing scare you. Remember, HE is the abusive one. HE is the one that will fail his psyche test!

Try to write down as many instances of his abuse as you can. His lawyer will try to blow them off, one by one. A misunderstanding here, a poor choice of words there. But a judge will be able to see a pattern in a long list of examples. And, a judge will NOT want to give custody to an abusive man.

Your only real fear is a fear of the unknown. Yes, it is frightening. But many great people such as yourself have over come that fear with outstanding results.

Go for it, Babe! Myself and all of Lit are cheering you on.

Jenny
 
As a former severe sufferer of mental illness myself, I don't believe you'll have any problems passing any sort of test. Being stressed is not the same thing as being insane.

You're a strong, tough woman ent. You'll get through this.

*HUGS*
 
:rose:

You've the greatest support group ever to exist right here in the AH. We'll leave the light on.
 
JRaven said:
Go ahead and GO! You owe it to yourself and your children. Don't let his B/S about psyche testing scare you. Remember, HE is the abusive one. HE is the one that will fail his psyche test!

Try to write down as many instances of his abuse as you can. His lawyer will try to blow them off, one by one. A misunderstanding here, a poor choice of words there. But a judge will be able to see a pattern in a long list of examples. And, a judge will NOT want to give custody to an abusive man.

This bears repeating. Don't let that bastard kill you inside any more than he already has.

When you leave, it will be scary. You might have to learn all over again who you are, what you think and feel, even what you like. But you can do it, because you have to, for your kids, and for the child inside you that you have to take care of. She's begging for your help.

May I suggest contacting a battered women's shelter for help in planning? Emotional battering is abuse. It's not a good idea to leave without a clear plan, because that only leads to going back.

Be safe, be well. :rose:
 
carsonshepherd said:
May I suggest contacting a battered women's shelter for help in planning? Emotional battering is abuse. It's not a good idea to leave without a clear plan, because that only leads to going back.

Be safe, be well. :rose:


Thank you, Carson for mentioning a very good resource for her. :heart:

Ent,
They can help you as much or as little as you feel you need. They have a multitude of resources available to you.
Jenny
 
gosh, i wish i had advice. i wish i could say i knew just what to do....
the only thing i can offer without a doubt is a shoulder to lean on. im here for you sweetie, just as so many others are.
:heart:
(i had many years of mental minipulation in a horrid marriage of 17 years... i dont believe there is anything you could tell me that i couldnt understand. my pm is open for you any time you want/need to vent)
:kiss:
 
I was there too babe, got out and it was hard, he took off with my kids for 3 months, but I got them back. Get a couselor of your own, and if he is abusive, get a domestic violence order, that will give you temporary custody of the kids. and get yourself a HUG. Remember what it's like to have a funtioning heart again. Then you will be willing to fight for it.
Love you hon
Nymphy
 
I just read this and have to concur that leaving is the only sane option. It sounds as if he didn't want you to have a LIFE at all. File for divorce, take a breather, and feel free to vent your spleen. It helps.
 
Ent, I know where you're coming from and you'll be amazed at the inner strength you harbor.
I'm just a PM away. :rose:
 
And for heaven's sake, don't fear that threat of a psyche eval if he's got no authority to make it. He's trying to cow you into submission before you even attempt to fight him. Talk to a lawyer, but unless someone other than him has evidence that you are mentally unstable, he's not likely to be able to carry through on that threat anyway. Don't let him keep you there with threats.

Shanglan
 
You'd be amazed at how many people are dealing with similar situations- you are not alone. And you do have the strength to leave, and leaving will be hard and painful, but when it's done, you will feel happiness and freedom that you have not known in years.
I agree with the other advice you've gotten. Pack and leave. Take the kids. Shelters will help, abused women's support groups will help. There are resources for you, so that you can leave and never look back.
 
i :heart: you all, just so you know. :eek:

Good suggestions, all of them, but....
The local shelter wouldn't take me - the southern good ol' boys system is hard at work.
He does have reason that would make me eligible for a psych exam.
He's the one with all the connections around here. His family's been here for generations. He's worked in the law enforcement system for the past six years, and can push things through.

Last night i just needed to get it out in the open. It caught up with me. Usually does after i've actually enjoyed myself away from all of it for a day or two, then have to come back to face the wrath of the asshole. i've got a plan for escape in place, and will be making the most of it when the time comes. Just not quite yet.
 
Possibly it's best to devote your energies to changing your location? Might you have a better chance of custody if you were able to leave and then file your plea in another locale?

Consider the Internet. You may well be able to get a general idea of your legal options online. I wish I could help more.
 
entitled said:
i :heart: you all, just so you know. :eek:

Good suggestions, all of them, but....
The local shelter wouldn't take me - the southern good ol' boys system is hard at work.
He does have reason that would make me eligible for a psych exam.
He's the one with all the connections around here. His family's been here for generations. He's worked in the law enforcement system for the past six years, and can push things through.

Last night i just needed to get it out in the open. It caught up with me. Usually does after i've actually enjoyed myself away from all of it for a day or two, then have to come back to face the wrath of the asshole. i've got a plan for escape in place, and will be making the most of it when the time comes. Just not quite yet.

If there's anything I can do to help Ent, yell. I know you don't know me, but I saw my sister through something like this and have been in my own hellish relationship which I hope to end with a divorce in the next year or so. As soon as the surgery is done anyways. It's nothing like what you have but I know that support from friends and family is crucial. Good luck to you girl, you and your family are in my prayers.
 
Those are good ideas, honorable member. Distance may be her friend. The guy sounds VERY dangerous.
 
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