KillerMuffin
Seraphically Disinclined
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So lavy won't get pissed off because I'm "going after" Marxist on another thread
I'm not "going after" Marxist on that thread. In fact, I did try to defend him by explaining a little of what people who think negatively of online love is like. I didn't call him dirty names. I didn't invalidate his opinion. I didn't rip him a new asshole. I didn't say he was even wrong. I didn't disagree with him. I called him what his is. Cold. Marxist is an extremely insensitive man. I'm not going to lie, particularly when his own atrocious behavior on this thread proves that particular sentiment beyond a shadow of a doubt. The man either hides or lacks human compassion.
I don't like Marxist in the least. I don't feel warm fuzzies for him like you do. I think it's in piss poor taste that Marxist even posted the way he did. He attacked every person out there that doesn't agree with him and belittled them and their feelings with one single sentiment. "You don't feel heartbreak. You feel disappointment."
If I'd done it my usual style, I would have ripped straight through him up one side and down the other. Not in defense of a cold hearted asshole, but in defense of the people he's hurting. No one, including me, has the right to hurt other people so callously.
None of the people who posted about their online heartbreak in this thread deserved what Marxist told them. They don't deserve to have their feelings treated like they don't exist because he doesn't think those feelings are valid. They do not deserve to have their pain devalued because he's a jerk.
Marxist is your friend. That's fine. But do you honestly believe that a single human being who posted about their pain on that thread deserved "You don't feel heartbreak. You feel disappointment?" Do you think that these people deserved to have their pain mocked? That's not expressing an opinion, that condescending to tell other people what they can or cannot feel. That's having the unmitigated audacity to callously tell another person that they are not feeling pain. He ridicules the very idea that they even felt that pain. Marxist looks exactly like KidRock from my high horse.
So, lavy, think what you will. You know me and you know I have a misguided and perfectly rabid loyalty. I feel that to my friends and I feel that to people who I've get the notion that are being unfairly attacked. It's why I stuck up for Marxist in the first place and it's why I'm not buying his brand of bullshit in the second place. You think whatever you like. In this particular instance, I do not think that I am wrong in anything that I've said and your accusations have no support and have not swayed me to rethink my position. Believe it or not, I'm relatively reasonable.
In case you missed it, here's what the soul of intense emotion and love has to say. Read this: "If you knew him and really were trying to see what the bloody man was saying, you would realize it's because his love is more intense than probably 90% of the online world." Then read what Mr. sacrificial loving has to say:
And this is unadulterated Marxist. You have a context to interact with him with. I do not. From what he's said here, I don't care to. The man is cold. To paraphrase a lovely lady, if you were really trying to see what the bloody man was saying, you would realize he's an asshole.
I'm not "going after" Marxist on that thread. In fact, I did try to defend him by explaining a little of what people who think negatively of online love is like. I didn't call him dirty names. I didn't invalidate his opinion. I didn't rip him a new asshole. I didn't say he was even wrong. I didn't disagree with him. I called him what his is. Cold. Marxist is an extremely insensitive man. I'm not going to lie, particularly when his own atrocious behavior on this thread proves that particular sentiment beyond a shadow of a doubt. The man either hides or lacks human compassion.
I don't like Marxist in the least. I don't feel warm fuzzies for him like you do. I think it's in piss poor taste that Marxist even posted the way he did. He attacked every person out there that doesn't agree with him and belittled them and their feelings with one single sentiment. "You don't feel heartbreak. You feel disappointment."
If I'd done it my usual style, I would have ripped straight through him up one side and down the other. Not in defense of a cold hearted asshole, but in defense of the people he's hurting. No one, including me, has the right to hurt other people so callously.
None of the people who posted about their online heartbreak in this thread deserved what Marxist told them. They don't deserve to have their feelings treated like they don't exist because he doesn't think those feelings are valid. They do not deserve to have their pain devalued because he's a jerk.
Marxist is your friend. That's fine. But do you honestly believe that a single human being who posted about their pain on that thread deserved "You don't feel heartbreak. You feel disappointment?" Do you think that these people deserved to have their pain mocked? That's not expressing an opinion, that condescending to tell other people what they can or cannot feel. That's having the unmitigated audacity to callously tell another person that they are not feeling pain. He ridicules the very idea that they even felt that pain. Marxist looks exactly like KidRock from my high horse.
So, lavy, think what you will. You know me and you know I have a misguided and perfectly rabid loyalty. I feel that to my friends and I feel that to people who I've get the notion that are being unfairly attacked. It's why I stuck up for Marxist in the first place and it's why I'm not buying his brand of bullshit in the second place. You think whatever you like. In this particular instance, I do not think that I am wrong in anything that I've said and your accusations have no support and have not swayed me to rethink my position. Believe it or not, I'm relatively reasonable.
In case you missed it, here's what the soul of intense emotion and love has to say. Read this: "If you knew him and really were trying to see what the bloody man was saying, you would realize it's because his love is more intense than probably 90% of the online world." Then read what Mr. sacrificial loving has to say:
If you never met in RL, you need to to reassess your defintion of heartbreak.
And please, for the love of god, leave the house and interact.
If I ever say that I'm heartbroken over someone I've never met in RL, you'll know I should be put down.
My comment wasn't a put-down (unless you find Black Bird third rate), just a dose of reality.
Sure there are people behind screen personas, but get a grip on what is truly heartbreaking. Losing "Toby34265" to "KissingKelly78" is not truly heartbreaking.
The word you're looking for here is DISAPPOINTMENT. You're disappointed it didn't turn out to be more than words or bits or electrons over a phone.
It's not stirring shit to tell the truth. Wake the fuck up!
Did your journey occur? I guess. You're using it as a metaphor right?
Was the man real? Obviously, unless he was a computer program. But I doubt it.
I'm sorry that I've only deeply loved those I've met in real life. Call me a kooky old man at 30
I've met a lot of nice people online and I hope someday to meet some of them in real life. But did you find the operative word in there? REAL life, not pretend life, not online life, but REAL life.
It's where you live and breathe, smoke and drink, fuck and suck. Don't get me wrong, this joint and many others is nice, but you've made a huge mistake thinking it can replace actual interaction with other humans.
Go ahead and wear your heart on your collective cyber-sleeve and mope together when the inevitable happens (she/he met someone in RL, no way!), see if I care.
But listen to me if you want out of this endless cycle of "heartbreak," meet someone in RL that's as fascinating as your online love. It'll be like all forbidden and shit.
*runs off to eat dinner with RL girlfriend*
Cruel---no one is cruel in real life.
Rude---ditto
Obnoxious---ditto ditto
There is nothing I've said here on the board that I wouldn't say in real life, either in jest or being dead fucking serious.
For example, I'd tell any one of the people here who never met an on-line love and claim to be heatbroken to get a life.
And to think Dr. Phil gets paid to do it.
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from L.K.
On the flipside:
Marxist stands in marked contrast to those examples from what I've seen. He's demonstrated a reasonably agile mind, so I submit he may rethink his views without being locked in detox.
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I would think that it might go the other way at some point. L.K., this whole idea of being an emotional infant who can take infatuation and manufacture love and it's requisite heartbreak is beyond retarded.
THE WORD IS DISAPPOINTED.
Dear Lavy,
You could have saved me a gravy boat of grief with your above post. Excellent and well-said in so many ways.
To allow yourself true "heartbreak" and not mere disappointment or hurt from someone you have never met, indicates a disconnection from traditional reality. It seems fantastical to me.
Your Ostrich Plumed Pimp,
Marxist
And this is unadulterated Marxist. You have a context to interact with him with. I do not. From what he's said here, I don't care to. The man is cold. To paraphrase a lovely lady, if you were really trying to see what the bloody man was saying, you would realize he's an asshole.