So lavy won't get pissed off because I'm "going after" Marxist on another thread

[Dillinger]

Damn! You know something - the only sane person on this thread is Marxist. He fucking said his piece and went to bed...

While the rest of you keep taking your turn at bat and there isn't anyone pitching.

Listen to Siren. Stop. Enough already. Move on.

 

[Samuari]

If they persisted and started talking about rainbows and hopes and quoting Garth Brooks lyrics........

Oh, do you have "friends in low places"?

 

[Azwed]

Actually i think fountain pens would be better for a hankerchief duel.

Keyboards at 5 paces and mouse bolas at 15. Pick your weapons from the table and stand on your respective side.

We will choose duel partners by drawing names from two hats. Anyone who wants to be a second stand off to the right.

 

[freakygirl]

I read all of this..

and I still have no idea what is going on!




Marxist, where's those pictures you promised me? You better send them soon.. or I will be heartbroken.

 

[The Dipsomaniac]

Hey i think this whole thing is laughable! I read Marxists comments on the other thread, and yeh - sure he was having a dig, and some people will all take it to heart - get over it.

I've got RL (oooh there's that word again) who are like this - stirrers no doubt, and just rub *some* people up the wrong way so much. Yet you just need to get over it. If your weakminded, with low self-esteem you might not take to kindly to harsh words, but like anything here online (there's that 'other' word) its hard to get the context of things sometimes... i read Marxists comments with a big hint of sarcasm, and to be quite honest - i like it, and find it amusing.

C'mon people - be a bit more thick skinned. Not everyone is going to agree anyway! Who cares - moves on to someone on your wavelength.

On yah Lav, and Marxist - you little black shit!
(Tongue firmly planted in cheek! *to give you the context*)

 

[Siren]

That would mean there were two sane people on this thread

 

[kiwiwolf]

But that is his opinion. We may not like it. I know I sure didn't, but the man can say what he wants to say.

Hell, we have folks all over the place who aren't shy about saying what's on their mind in equally stark and, yeah, cruel terms. Marxist just does what a hell of a lot of others have done here. I admire him because he has the cojones to do a couple things: stick around and take the heat for it, and not take what's said personally. He and I have differed before, though not to a great extreme, but we still get along in threads. I don't see any reason why we won't continue to do so.

I'm with you Jim. Opinions are like assholes... everyone has one. So Marxist doesn't go the politically correct way in delivering his... big deal. Personally I think this whole thing is a big load of bollocks.





But that is just my opinion. Flame away...

 

[Cheyenne]

I'm with you Jim. Opinions are like assholes... everyone has one. So Marxist doesn't go the politically correct way in delivering his... big deal. Personally I think this whole thing is a big load of bullocks.
But that is just my opinion. Flame away...

No flames. I'd only point out that there is a difference between not being politically correct and being plain rude/nasty. Or cold, as KM puts it.

You can still give your unpopular opinion without being rude to others. Many people do that here every day. Many times, Marxist isn't one of them.

 

[jass1960]

strange......

And this is unadulterated Marxist. You have a context to interact with him with. I do not. From what he's said here, I don't care to. The man is cold. To paraphrase a lovely lady, if you were really trying to see what the bloody man was saying, you would realize he's an asshole. [/B]

...seems very strange to me that you should devote a whole thread (plus the original thread) to flaming marxist when you care so little...

whos playing games here?

 

[CelestialBody]

 

[JazzManJim]

No flames. I'd only point out that there is a difference between not being politically correct and being plain rude/nasty. Or cold, as KM puts it.

You can still give your unpopular opinion without being rude to others. Many people do that here every day. Many times, Marxist isn't one of them.

No flames here either.

The thing most folks are overlooking about Marxist is that he is blunt all the time. He's brutally blunt when he gives bad opinions and he's just as openly blunt when he gives praise. It always hurts worse when someone calls you a deluded motherfucker than feels good when they call you an angel. I've seen him do both pretty freely.

I can't argue with that. He cuts with both sides of the knife and he's consistent in that, which makes him okay with me.

Oh and an aside to Marxist (based on your PE comment earlier). I was doing some homework and was listening to my NWA CD (Their very early one. "Straight Outta Compton" is an incredible track). After a while, I just stopped the homework and listened. I know I'm not black nor do I live in the ghetto, but those dudes speak for me a damned lot of the time. I'm not sure if they ever meant to speak for a white suburban middle-class kid, but they did. Power to 'em.

 

[LukkyKnight]

"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident."

Arthur Schopenhauer (1788-1860)

 

[cymbidia]

In the interests of being fair and balanced, i'd like to amend my previous statement about Marxist being mean.

To my eyes, he sometimes is, to be sure. He has a vastly different posting style than do i, and may have a vastly different style of interating with the world than me, too. Sometimes what he says just sounds mean to me. I would say what he does in a very different way - but that's me. I am not Marxist. Marxist is not me.

However, he's definitely not always mean.

He was quietly supportive and very kind to me, both in private and public, when i was going through the worst of that bad time in December. I thought then that he was unusually good-hearted to have done so for me, pretty much a stranger to him. There was no reason for him to be kind, to be supportive to me then, save the urging of a good heart.

I'm not good at picking sides. I hate getting into stuff like this and should have just gone with my instincts and stayed far away from this.



I apologize if i was unduly harsh to you Marxist. I respect your propensity for truth-telling, however abrasively it comes out on occasion. One doesn't ever have to wonder if you're lying.


Muff? You're a good and brave woman. I respect and admire you. Always.

 

[KillerMuffin]

I don't like Marxist very much for a few reasons. One, he's like me. He's mean. He's cold. He doesn't consider other people's feelings no matter what he says.

The biggest one, though, is that he told me that I can't have PMDD because Eli Lilly made it all up to sell Prozac. The conlcusion is that I need to essentially prostrate myself before my shrink and beg for a bunch of depakote to stabilize my personality. Well. Depakote doesn't work. I was on it for two years and it made me nuts. Because of my hormonal overload, I can't be on BCPs either. Too many hormones. People with PMDD are bad candidates for BCPs and Depo, according to my doctor. Why? The hormones. Drove me nuts. Of course, Marxist, the know all God of everything that he is, told me I'm full or horseshit, that PMDD doesn't exist and I'm making all of this up. In 1935 he'd be telling the lot of us that PMS doesn't exist. He probably thinks that now.

Does this mean that I have no respect for Marxist? Quite the contrary. I have a great deal of respect for the man. He says what he means on the board, though lavy has given me reason to think he's decieving people, and he generally holds to his principles. I did think he was a honest guy. Misguided and wrong-headed, but honest. Now, I'm not so sure. I don't respect two-faced people. Of course, there's no evidence that he's two-faced beyond lavy, so I'll take it that he's honest. Another thing about Marxist is that he doesn't care about my opinion of him, either. He doesn't apologize for who he is. That's admirable. Until this thread he never played that racist card. Not in that "feel sorry for me 'cause the man's persecuting me" way. That takes a lot of integrity.

However, the man lacks compassion. He can't be reasoned with and he never apologizes for what he does that hurts other people, and he never admits to being wrong even when there exists a possiblity that he might be. It takes honor and courage to do that.

And Marxist, the reason I didn't participate in your contest the first time is that 1) it broke Lit's posting rules. 2) I just started college, no idea if I had any time to do it in. I was intending to be respectful by not wasting your time. The reason that I didn't participate in your second contest is because all the slots were full before I even saw the thread. I'm not here 24/7. It's all there in your threads. Or are you calling me a liar to my face?

Not only that, I didn't criticize your contest. I think it's a good thing. I just firmly believe that flash fiction doesn't belong with stories because the flash fiction will be treated like a long story and not on its own merit. 1500 words or less is not enough time to get someone off unless you're a linguistic genius. That's an automatic 2 or 3 from the average lit-goer. A 4 or 5 requires something close to an orgasm.

This is to you lavy, I'm not the greatest person here and I usually claim to be the worst. I'm not going to change much either. I know that I'm a hypocrite. I know that I'm a bitch. I know that I'm judgemental. I know that I open my mouth before I engage my brain. I know that I'm mean. And I know that I hurt people. I know that I'm vicious and vindictive. I know that I don't think about other people's feelings. However, lavender, if you think for one single minute that I ever thought this behavior was "cute" or "adorable" then you're not the person that I thought you were. I don't apologize for who I am. I do admit when I'm wrong and I do apologize for my behavior. Moreover I do my damnedest to not do it again. I'm confrontational, though, and you threw an ugly accusation in my face that I couldn't leave unanswered. If you're going to write me off, tell me right now. Don't leave it vague and ambiguous. One of the real nice things about me is that I'm never two-faced. I don't talk mean about people behind their back. I do it all where they can see it. You always know what I think about you or anyone else because I tell it, right wrong or indifferent. Do me the favor of the same courtesy.

I don't buy it when people say that I say what others are thinking but won't say and that's admirable. It's flat not. When people won't say something it's because it's rude and it's because it's mean. So think about this. Marxist is a lot like me. A lot more than he'll ever admit to.

 

[lavender]

 

[Marxist]

Re: Mr Consistency

I thought that you started out on this board as a gay activist, and now you've aquired a girlfriend. sounds like the kettle calling the pot black, no wait ...you are black...or are you? I'm confused. I think.

Since you won't answer my PM, I'll address this strange comment here in public.

As a joke, it's not funny. As a fact, it's not true.

I advocate the rights of EVERYONE in America, not just homosexuals, Blacks, or the Klan.

I've never stated that I was a "gay activist" or any such thing. I'm not gay and I'm not an activist.

I do believe that you have mistaken me for REDWAVE.

He's a politically radical, bisexual, humorous freak.

Last I heard he was on a "forced" vacation on Guantanamo Bay. If you're trying to get in touch with him, write to John Ashcroft and I'm sure he'd love to help you keep in touch.

 

[sexy-girl]

was reading this thread to see what sorts of things i'd missed since computer trouble ... i not sure if i should be posting on this thread and im not sure i should be posting in this manner but

You're right.

that was marxists reply to a certain somebody on a certain thread when he realized he was maybe wrong about something vague enough i hope ... this was concerning KMs view that marxist never admits hes wrong

Here are those that make my Literotica community what it is to me. This is very personalized and I normally do not post to threads like this. But at times, it is nice to see a big thank you posted on the board. These are the people that make me come back to lit. These are the people I read. These may not be the most influential posters on this board, but these are the ones I simply adore. I can't break down a top 10, but I can break it down into Older Posters, Tweeners, and Newer Posters.

These older posters are the reason I began participating on the board. Their posts are what got me here and plenty addicted. They are the ones who I have seen in action for almost a year. They are ones, that even if I don't talk to a great deal, I truly care about.

Older Posters

• Killer Muffin
• L****
• D*****

• 
  
  
  that was concerning what KM said about lavender not saying how she felt about killer muffin ... as you can see on the top of the list is .........
  
  
  now i was going to quote something that killer muffin had said to show how i feel about her ... but i realized if i did this she'd probably kick my ass (she might anyway) ... so i'll just tell her how i feel about her instead
  
  she was mixed in as one person from the group of people on literotica that i first noticed that made me think wow this place is cool and has so much more to it then i first thought
  
  i think she is uniquely honest on here but i dont believe she gives herself enough credit you put yourself down to much i always enjoy your posts and i think you are a wonderful person ... sometimes you remind me of lisa in that i think lisa's honesty would maybe get her in trouble on here likes yours does too ... killer muffin if you ever stop posting on here i'd cry real tears ... i like you
  
  
  anyway what im saying is that im not picking sides on this thread at all but i think each of you is pretty cool
  
  now instead of arguing you should all flame me for butting my nose in and copying pasting quotes

 

[Svedish_Chef]

Hey Black fella.. Sam doesnt check in for days on end... so he probably hasnt even been back to it yet.

Always in such a hurry young man.

 

[Marxist]

Hey Black fella.. Sam doesnt check in for days on end... so he probably hasnt even been back to it yet.

Always in such a hurry young man.

Totally off topic:

Who came up with the bouncy bass and drum for Bowie's song "Fame"? It sounds like a direct rip-off of James Brown's "Big Payback".

If so, was Brown ever compensated?

 

[Svedish_Chef]

Totally off topic:

Who came up with the bouncy bass and drum for Bowie's song "Fame"? It sounds like a direct rip-off of James Brown's "Big Payback".

If so, was Brown ever compensated?

Written by Bowie, Carlos Alomar and Lennon.

Bass player on the track: Emir Kassan
Drums: Dennis David.

I know it dont answer your question but its the best I can do...

 

[Marxist]

Thanks Chef, you gave me the clue to find out the truth:

From http://members.cts.com/crash/p/phil/plasticsoul.html

Update: Now it can be told! David's "Fame" was followed by James Brown's soundalike "Hot" by only a few months. Although David's lyrics are more articulate and thoughtful, the music of the two songs is almost identical. Many people have emailed me to ask which song was the original and which song was probably plagiarized.

In an interview available on Evan's Teenage Wildlife, Carlos Alomar clears up the mystery. "Fame" was the original -- Carlos developed the music from their 1974 performances of Footstompin', which you can hear on the Rarestonebowie collection. One listen to this December 1974 performance on the Dick Cavett show makes it clear that Bowie's recording is the original, and JB must've been in a creative dry spell to be borrowing from #1 songs.

So it was "Hot" not "Papa..." and Brown is the thief NOT Bowie.

Although I do enjoy Brown's musicianship more on the respective songs.

Now I can sleep.

 

[alexandraaah]

Totally off topic:

Who came up with the bouncy bass and drum for Bowie's song "Fame"? It sounds like a direct rip-off of James Brown's "Big Payback".

If so, was Brown ever compensated?

Brown was totally ripped off by Bowie, whom as much as I love (and I do) basically ripped off Mark Bolan. Closest guess of mine is that, at the time, Brown's access to good legal advice was somewhat curbed.

 

[alexandraaah]

didn't see your post till i was done.

clearly i know nothing.

when i thought i knew something.

resume thread and ignore me as per usual routine.

 

[Marxist]

Alex, *cough*


Look above you. I was wrong and uh...so were you.

The sources I found say that "Hot (Loving, loving, loving)," immediately followed Brown's band's departure when he was out of ideas.

Oh, and that band became the 70's Parliament / Funkadelic.

 

[Harbinger]

Bootsie.