Sniper Poll (gonna git it right this time!)

Who's gonna execute the bastard first?

  • US Government (The Feds)

    Votes: 4 15.4%
  • Virginia

    Votes: 11 42.3%
  • Maryland

    Votes: 6 23.1%
  • Alabama

    Votes: 5 19.2%

  • Total voters
    26

Lasher

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My money is on Virginia.... Them's some excutin' motherfucka's down there. Too bad Texas ain't in the race, fuckers would be dead already!!!!
 
Just trying to set the tone for some good 'ol down home justice.
 
Hey, who said Maryland? Don't you know that their gubner has a moratorium on executions in place right now??

Shit...

I should've had a choice for some redneck vigilante prisner with sharpened spoon or something.

Dammit.
 
I thnk you are jumping the gun a bit (pun intended); first they have to charge him with murder (which I don't think they have done yet) - they don't execute people for firearms violations, yet.

Then after they charge him they have to have a trial to determine if he is guilty - you know, that old innocent until proven guilty thing?

Then, assuming he is the sniper, and ssuming he is found guilty, then he must be sentenced.

Perversely, given the visibility of the case, I doubt that any person found guilty will be executed.
 
Sniper suspect faces murder charges


ROCKVILLE, Md. (AP) - Maryland prosecutors said Friday they will bring six counts of first-degree murder against the two sniper suspects and seek the death penalty against Army veteran John Allen Muhammad...

There's bunches more after that in the above link.
 
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Fuck that. Death is too good for them. I think we should bring back the oubliette.
 
Ya know, I'm very disappointed by the apathy of the voting public.
 
He may never see a death penalty, no matter how well deserved.

Guilty by reason of insanity.

He is gonna try.

I can foresee a long debate over Gulf War Syndrome in our near future.

Hell, everybody has a syndrome! If not, we just might have to be held responsible for our actions.
 
MissTaken said:
He may never see a death penalty, no matter how well deserved.

I have tremendous faith in Virginians to completely overlook such arguments.
 
I honestly think if he's guilty he'll die. I'm not entirely sure he'll even make it to trial.

Personally I am not sure how I feel about the death penalty in general as I still say it lets people off too easy. Unless you believe in hell. Which I don't.
 
Lasher said:
Sniper suspect faces murder charges


ROCKVILLE, Md. (AP) - Maryland prosecutors said Friday they will bring six counts of first-degree murder against the two sniper suspects and seek the death penalty against Army veteran John Allen Muhammad...

There's bunches more after that in the above link.
As far as I know he still hasn't been charged yet. In this country at least, you still have to be charged first before you can go to trial, and so on, and in this country a statement by prosecutors that they will be seeking charges does not equate to charges.

I am sure he will be so charged, but I am also sure you get my point - I think it is premature and wholly innapropriate to be talking about which governmental body is going to execute someone before he has been found guilty, much less before he has even been charged with murder.
 
Shy Tall Guy said:
I am sure he will be so charged, but I am also sure you get my point - I think it is premature and wholly innapropriate to be talking about which governmental body is going to execute someone before he has been found guilty, much less before he has even been charged with murder.

Well, Christ. You're no fucking fun.

Rampant speculation with almost no basis for such is the American Goddamn Way!!
 
Lasher said:
Well, Christ. You're no fucking fun.

Rampant speculation with almost no basis for such is the American Goddamn Way!!


Someone sing the National Anthem. I feel like saluting.
 
Lasher said:
I have tremendous faith in Virginians to completely overlook such arguments.

I voted Maryland, by the way.

However, I honestly can't remember the last time I read about someone being executed there.

So, perhaps Virginia can deal with this.

In any event, it will be interesting to watch and hopefully is the end of a series of tragedies.
 
MissTaken said:
I voted Maryland, by the way.

And thank you for doing so.

The unwillingness of people to vote on this thread reminds me so much of the Clinton-Dole election and nearly brings a lump to my throat...

Soon I'm gonna start waving the 99¢ American flag decal I got at Walmart while I sing the "Ford Truck Man" song.
 
Yep - VA has a tempoarry stay pending evaluation, but it has a time limit.

Although Alabama may edge the commonwealth out...
 
Lasher said:
Well, Christ. You're no fucking fun.

Rampant speculation with almost no basis for such is the American Goddamn Way!!
Sorry, I didn't know you were a member of the news media - if I had I would have stood aside and let you do your patriotic duty. ;)
 
Officials Want Death Penalty in Sniper Case
Updated 8:25 PM ET October 25, 2002

By Mark Wilkinson

ROCKVILLE, Md. (Reuters) - With two sniper suspects behind bars on Friday, officials from Maryland, Virginia and Alabama said the death penalty was warranted in the three-week shooting rampage that killed 10 people and wounded three in and around the U.S. capital.

Maryland, where six of the 10 killings occurred, planned to charge John Allen Muhammad, a 41-year-old Gulf War veteran, and his 17-year-old traveling companion, John Lee Malvo, with six counts of first-degree murder in the sniper siege. Arrest warrants on these charges were expected later on Friday.

Douglas Gansler, state's attorney for Montgomery County, said death sentences would be sought in the case: "We are confident of our grounds for death penalty eligibility."

Both suspects were arrested on Thursday after one of the biggest manhunts in U.S. history. Muhammad was held on a charge of violating a federal gun law, while the specific charge against Malvo was not made public because federal officials said he was under 18.

However, Gansler said, "Mr. Malvo is not in this country legally, so we don't know at this time for a fact that he is a juvenile." He said Malvo would be charged as an adult.

Gansler acknowledged there are seven jurisdictions around Washington -- two Maryland counties, four Virginia counties and the District of Columbia -- where the suspects could be tried, in addition to any possible federal charges in the case.

He spoke as relief replaced anxiety in suburbs around Washington, as routines returned to a semblance of normalcy after three weeks of extraordinarily widespread anxiety.

DEATH PENALTY LOOMS

Beyond the six killings that occurred in Montgomery County, three were in Virginia and one was in Washington, D.C. Of the three people critically injured, two were in Virginia and one was in Prince George's County, Maryland.

Both Maryland and Virginia can impose the death penalty, though there is currently a moratorium on its use in Maryland, and it is not used in cases involving juveniles.

However, Maryland Gov. Parris Glendening said this case left room to impose the death sentence.

"On cases of this type, we do have death penalty legislation at the federal-state level, and when you have something this horrendous it seems to me that if there is no question whatsoever about the guilt that this is the type of incident for which this legislation is written," he said.

"Clearly this is a case that I believe where the death penalty is appropriate," Virginia Gov. Mark Warner said at a news conference.

The District of Columbia has no death penalty statute, though it could be sought if the fatal shooting in the U.S. capital was brought as a federal case.

In a recent Time/CNN poll, 72 percent of the respondents said they agreed Muhammad should be sentenced to death if he is eventually found guilty of murder while 51 percent agreed Malvo should receive the same punishment.

Muhammad and Malvo were arrested early Thursday as they slept in their car at a highway rest stop in rural Maryland. A Bushmaster semi-automatic rifle found in the car was later determined to be the weapon used in the deadly sniper rampage that left 10 dead and three critically injured since Oct. 2.

The suspects were also linked to the death of a woman during a Sept. 21 robbery in Montgomery, Alabama, and Alabama authorities said they planned to file murder charges in that case, and would seek the death penalty for both suspects.

In Kingston, Jamaica, Malvo's father and brother expressed disbelief that the teen would have participated in the recent string of shootings. "He was a good boy. He was a good boy," his father, Leslie, said in an interview with Reuters.

His brother, Rohan, said: "I felt so bad about it." He added: "And for real, I still don't think it's my brother because he's not that type of person."
 
I voted for Virginia.

Maryland is well known for screwing up even the most simple things. :rolleyes:
 
I vote Maryland; six out of thirteen of the murders occured here.

And they have Murphy's law on their side, Lily.
 
I voted Virginia, I cant wait for the trial, it will be a real media event.
 
Lasher said:
Officials Want Death Penalty in Sniper Case
Updated 8:25 PM ET October 25, 2002

By Mark Wilkinson
...

However, Maryland Gov. Parris Glendening said this case left room to impose the death sentence.

"On cases of this type, we do have death penalty legislation at the federal-state level, and when you have something this horrendous it seems to me that if there is no question whatsoever about the guilt that this is the type of incident for which this legislation is written," he said.

"Clearly this is a case that I believe where the death penalty is appropriate," Virginia Gov. Mark Warner said at a news conference.

...

I voted for Virginia, because they have the shortest delay in a carrying out the death penalty once imposed. One news channel "expert" said, "It's entirely possible tyhey could be exuted before all of the trials are done." -- He went on to explain that the first jurisdiction to impose the death penalty could carry out the sentence before other jurisdictions overcome delays and stalling tactics.

I quoted the governors' remarks, because although he didn't explainit very clearly, Gov. Glendening said, "the moratorium would not apply to this case." I think this was an attempt to explain that MD's moratorium is to provide time to review existing death sentences. Any new death penalty would presumbly already address the issues being reviewed in the existing sentences -- ie be more fully documented as warranted and justly imposed.
 
Black_Bird said:
I vote Maryland; six out of thirteen of the murders occured here.

And they have Murphy's law on their side, Lily.


pssst, it was 10 murders, 13 people were shot.

My vote is for Maryland, then in appropriate pecking order for the other states as the trials are slated.
 
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