Slavery by litigation.

FazilKotuk

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I was thinking of a futuristic idea where the laws of a country allow enslavement of defendants who can't pay the judgments against them in lawsuits. In particular, a case where a man is falsely accused of rape, and since the woman can't pay the judgment against her for slander and defamation of character, she is sentenced to being his slave for life (as he won more than she could ever pay up).

Naturally, the man in question is quite happy to enjoy the body that he only tasted (consensually) once before.
 
I like the original concept but not particularly your take on it. I would write a story about someone who lost a trial and instead of being sentenced to jail, would have to be a sex slave instead, maybe at a state run Bunny Ranch. Or, if they lost and had to pay a huge monetary payout they could have the option of either paying the money or working it off at the Bunny Ranch. If they didn't perform at the Bunny Ranch, then off to jail it would be. Hey, that sounds like a great Paris Hilton story!
 
subwannabe said:
I like the original concept but not particularly your take on it. I would write a story about someone who lost a trial and instead of being sentenced to jail, would have to be a sex slave instead, maybe at a state run Bunny Ranch. Or, if they lost and had to pay a huge monetary payout they could have the option of either paying the money or working it off at the Bunny Ranch. If they didn't perform at the Bunny Ranch, then off to jail it would be. Hey, that sounds like a great Paris Hilton story!

What was the problem with my take on it? My interest here is in a punishment for a false accusation of rape. Mainly the accuser having to service her victim.
 
In particular, it combines my interest in dystopian themes, my strong resentment of those who make false accusations of rape and sexual harassment against innocent men, and my fascination with the idea of slavery as a penalty.
 
But you dont take into account the many sexuall assault cases in which the men are acquitted who actaully did rape the woman in question. Such as lack of evidence, unwillingness of a traumatized victim to testify, badgering, etcetera.

So, in that case , you would have lots of women turning around and being slaves to the very men that messed them up in the first place.

While, your premise of there being false accusations is true; this answer reeks of misogyny
 
mfm_boyfriend said:
But you dont take into account the many sexuall assault cases in which the men are acquitted who actaully did rape the woman in question. Such as lack of evidence, unwillingness of a traumatized victim to testify, badgering, etcetera.

So, in that case , you would have lots of women turning around and being slaves to the very men that messed them up in the first place.

While, your premise of there being false accusations is true; this answer reeks of misogyny

That's the point of slander litigation: truth is a defense. If she can make a good enough case in a civil court, which has a lower burden of proof, then she can avoid being a slave. He'd need to make a case himself, too, that he was clearly slandered. He'd need a preponderance of evidence to do so. That's not as easy as it sounds.

The whole point of it being through the civil courts is that he'd need to have a strong team of lawyers and a lot of evidence to make a case for slander/defamation. After all, if he can't prove it's false, then he can't prove that he was defamed/slandered. Hence, it would be virtually impossible for a woman to be a slave to a man who actually raped her.

And there are plenty of innocent men in prison for rapes that they didn't commit. Which is rather misandristic, as are scenarios where innocent men become slaves to women that they never raped.
 
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didn't mean to offend you. I just wrote my opinion of how I would write the story. Everyone has different likes and dislikes
 
subwannabe said:
didn't mean to offend you. I just wrote my opinion of how I would write the story. Everyone has different likes and dislikes

No offense taken. Just curious as to what exactly you didn't like about it. :confused:
 
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I like the idea; it has much potential. It also reminds me of the Seinfeld story when a dude in a traffic accident had no insurance, so he was sentenced to be a butler for the guy he hit......Carney
 
FazilKotuk said:
I was thinking of a futuristic idea where the laws of a country allow enslavement of defendants who can't pay the judgments against them in lawsuits. In particular, a case where a man is falsely accused of rape, and since the woman can't pay the judgment against her for slander and defamation of character, she is sentenced to being his slave for life (as he won more than she could ever pay up).

Naturally, the man in question is quite happy to enjoy the body that he only tasted (consensually) once before.

I remember reading something similar a long time ago where the laws were changed to allow for the legal rape of women. As I recall their (women's) right to vote was taken away as well. Of course, as a man I liked the story's premise. Most didn't though. As I recall, the outcry was HUGE. I have tried finding it a few times but, was unable to.

Anyways, good luck with your story.
 
Texan065 said:
I remember reading something similar a long time ago where the laws were changed to allow for the legal rape of women. As I recall their (women's) right to vote was taken away as well. Of course, as a man I liked the story's premise. Most didn't though. As I recall, the outcry was HUGE. I have tried finding it a few times but, was unable to.
http://www.literotica.com/stories/showstory.php?id=248819
 
Thanks. Well, the rape thing is incidental. The point of the idea is that anyone who loses enough money in a court case or through debts can be enslaved to pay back the amount. If they can't pay it back, then the slavery is permanent. It could also be a punishment for crime. This would be a neat way of getting around the 13th Amendment by using the criminal justice loophole in it and having slavery be an assumed risk upon debts and defamation of character, as well as other issues pertaining to litigation.

Gender, of course, would be immaterial, except to this specific case and others like it.
 
I've had ideas for something very similar, but have never gotten around to actually writing a story based on my ideas.

You will note that the laws regarding bankruptcy have gotten much more restrictive for individuals in the past 7 years. If this trend continues it wouldn't be too difficult to see debt slavery becomming a reality in our lifetime.

Tying reality and fantasy together I would like to see a story (or series of stories) where a government agency is set up to oversee slave auctions where people sell themselves into slavery for a year (or two years or three or four) in order to raise money to pay off their debts.

Of course if a person is too old to make an attractive slave, perhaps he (or she) could talk his (or her) children into selling themselves into slavery to pay off their debts.
 
I've had ideas for something very similar, but have never gotten around to actually writing a story based on my ideas.

You will note that the laws regarding bankruptcy have gotten much more restrictive for individuals in the past 7 years. If this trend continues it wouldn't be too difficult to see debt slavery becomming a reality in our lifetime.

Tying reality and fantasy together I would like to see a story (or series of stories) where a government agency is set up to oversee slave auctions where people sell themselves into slavery for a year (or two years or three or four) in order to raise money to pay off their debts.

Of course if a person is too old to make an attractive slave, perhaps he (or she) could talk his (or her) children into selling themselves into slavery to pay off their debts.
 
Texan065 said:
Thank you very much. I have been looking for this for quite some time.
We get quite a lot of "does anyone know this story" requests, but this is the first time I have ever been successful in finding what the requester wanted!
 
Yes, I read your stories, and I actually enjoyed them a bit. Especially the lesbian bondage angle. Girl/girl bondage is second only to male dom as my favorite BDSM theme. ;)
 
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