Simone Biles - Quitter or Wise?

[spacekowboy]

There's no explaining to that clown the error of his thinking. He wants to wag his finger to anyone who doesn't live up to his ever changing standards. He would never have claimed how brave she was if she had fallen and cost her team mates. His claim had she broken her neck would have been "That's her fault going out there when she wasn't right" or "this is God getting even with her for doing a commercial with that homo".

AJ only pops off with this shit when he can push his racist agenda or by manning the dog whistle to get his like minded cronies to say the racist shit he's too chicken to say himself so that he can giggle along.


AJ: "But, but... I didn't mention anything about her race, you did."

I've seen his little melodramas played out too many times. He is a crusty, old, predictable twat.

 

[Dribble]

I didn't know this was a poll....

 

[HisArpy]

There's no explaining to that clown the error of his thinking. He wants to wag his finger to anyone who doesn't live up to his ever changing standards. He would never have claimed how brave she was if she had fallen and cost her team mates. His claim had she broken her neck would have been "That's her fault going out there when she wasn't right" or "this is God getting even with her for doing a commercial with that homo".

AJ only pops off with this shit when he can push his racist agenda or by manning the dog whistle to get his like minded cronies to say the racist shit he's too chicken to say himself so that he can giggle along.


AJ: "But, but... I didn't mention anything about her race, you did."

I've seen his little melodramas played out too many times. He is a crusty, old, predictable twat.

Speaking of dog whistles, how many of your cronies are now going to show up for the libtard "you're a racist" feeding frenzy now that YOU'VE played the race card?

 

[spacekowboy]

Speaking of crusty, predictable twats.

 

[DeluxAuto]

Speaking of dog whistles, how many of your cronies are now going to show up for the libtard "you're a racist" feeding frenzy now that YOU'VE played the race card?

If only Cap'n didn't have a long history of overt racism. Not that you'd be willing to see it anyway.

 

[rockcasbah]

At 24, she’s past her prime.

Total career shifting move. PR stunt/kickstarter.

Soon she’ll sign a lazy voice over streaming deal with some kind of mental wellness hook.

(Markle n Biles porn!)

They’re all cashing in on mental health now, like Oprah Franchisees.

 

[jomar]

Not a quitter. From what I’ve read the twisties may not just go away. Sometimes the athlete has to go back to basics to get the mind and body back in sync, and the olympics isn’t the place to do that. Kind of like trying to fix your golf swing during a round, but potentially fatal.

 

[jomar]

At 24, she’s past her prime.

Total career shifting move. PR stunt/kickstarter.

Soon she’ll sign a lazy voice over streaming deal with some kind of mental wellness hook.

(Markle n Biles porn!)

They’re all cashing in on mental health now, like Oprah Franchisees.

Wow. I bet you’re fun at parties.

 

[LukSkyFokker]

Wow. I bet you’re fun at parties.

His favorite parties take place at Chuck E. Cheese even though he's childless.

 

[naughtymind]

If anyone of her peers wants to criticize her decision that would be one thing, but they have been overwhelmingly supportive. I might actually consider, slightly, the perspectives of someone who CAN perform at just half her level, and who might have the slightest understanding of what she was factoring into her decision. It's pretty embarrassing to see people who haven't a whiff of her athletic talent (i.e. 99.9% of the human race) criticizing her decision to take care of her health by not taking an extreme risk in competing under the circumstances.

I used to be a very talented athlete myself once, long long ago; but I can say with great certainty that at my absolute peak I was never even in the same universe as her talent level. The level of focus and spacial and body awareness she possesses while performing such complex (and dangerous!) moves is hard to even fathom really, and I have tremendous admiration for any such athlete. Clearly they know WAY more about their own capabilities and their limitations than any of us will ever know. They have to, because even the slightest error could be disastrous; they need to know with 100% certainty what their limits are, and be able to go for their moves with total unwavering focus and confidence. A process that no one else can accurately assess from the sidelines.

She took the long view here: she's young, and has already made a permanent mark in gymnastics for herself. She may well continue to break records and push the envelope. She has many many more opportunities in life to look forward to; as she is clearly a very motivated and driven individual, I have no doubt she could excel in countless other things in life if she so chooses. She has plenty to look forward to outside of her professional life as well, so why on earth would she risk all that for one more medal right now? The risk to reward equation is pretty obvious on this one; she made the only good call there was to make under the circumstances.

 

[jomar]

His favorite parties take place at Chuck E. Cheese even though he's childless.

Probably the Hillary owned ones.

 

[rockcasbah]

Wow. I bet you’re fun at parties.

24 is old for gymnasts, strippers, models and other baubles.

Next step, strong bipoc role model du jour, no more pelvic floor massages unless she gets her own shoe line.

Standard american celeb career path, no heavy lifting required.

 

[jomar]

24 is old for gymnasts, strippers, models and other baubles.

Next step, strong bipoc role model du jour, no more pelvic floor massages unless she gets her own shoe line.

Standard american celeb career path, no heavy lifting required.

24 is old for gymnasts, I agree. But your cynicism huge, one might even say Olympian in proprtion.

 

[Lazaran]

24 is old for gymnasts, strippers, models and other baubles.

Next step, strong bipoc role model du jour, no more pelvic floor massages unless she gets her own shoe line.

Standard american celeb career path, no heavy lifting required.

^
Standard armchair quarter (pounder and cheese) back.

Pathetic.

 

[rockcasbah]

24 is old for gymnasts, I agree. But your cynicism huge, one might even say Olympian in proprtion.

That’s showbiz. Watch for the reveal right after the games end.

 

[RoryN]

Your cynicism huge, one might even say Olympian in proprtion.

He thinks it makes him sound smart.

He idolizes Bill Murray, and tries to emulate his delivery.

Problem is, Murray's snark is crafted and intelligent, whereas he's just a forum troll.

 

[LincolnDuncan]

There are professional male athletes who could no longer perform due to mental problems. They had to deal with the press but nowhere near what this young woman has had to face. She has shown a lot of courage talkin to the press after making her decision.

 

[jomar]

He thinks it makes him sound smart.

He idolizes Bill Murray, and tries to emulate his delivery.

Problem is, Murray's snark is crafted and intelligent, whereas he's just a forum troll.

Sounds about right.

 

[Lazaran]

That’s showbiz. Watch for the reveal right after the games end.

You're a little late.

Simone Biles is already an advocate for sexual assault survivors and athletes having agency over their lives and their health.

I'm sure you would like to put her in a box on a shelf now that she has "served her purpose", but her greatness has granted her a platform to continue advocating for sexual assault survivors and athletes having agency over their lives and their health.

I can't think of a better representative to advocate for those issues.

 

[IrezumiKiss]

Wow. I bet you’re fun at parties.

https://i.imgur.com/nuSNb50.png

 

[colddiesel]

The Gold goes to Elena Mukhina of Russia for her broken neck and early death.

Julissa Gomez of the USA Paraplegia.

Another American dead at 22, don't remember her name.

Shan Lan China (? name) Paraplegia.

And these are just the ones who represented their countries. Women's gymnastics is the 3rd most dangerous sport in terms of permanent traumatic injury to competitors. The only two more dangerous are Boxing and Bull Riding.

NFl, Rugby, Hockey, Football, Nazcar, Formula 1 and Wrestling are sports for molly coddled pussies in comparison.

It's farcical that the poll question was even asked.

 

[rockcasbah]

More dangerous than cheerleading?

The Gold goes to Elena Mukhina of Russia for her broken neck and early death.

Julissa Gomez of the USA Paraplegia.

Another American dead at 22, don't remember her name.

Shan Lan China (? name) Paraplegia.

And these are just the ones who represented their countries. Women's gymnastics is the 3rd most dangerous sport in terms of permanent traumatic injury to competitors. The only two more dangerous are Boxing and Bull Riding.

NFl, Rugby, Hockey, Football, Nazcar, Formula 1 and Wrestling are sports for molly coddled pussies in comparison.

It's farcical that the poll question was even asked.

 

[Champakian]

She's an athlete. She's paid (in whatever form you want to call it) to perform. When she doesn't it's because she wants/needs to retire.

That doesn't mean she's no longer an athlete or that she's a quitter or that she's got "all kinds of problems" because of what she went through when she was younger. It means she wants/needs to retire and that's how it got revealed to the rest of us.

"Quitter / not a quitter" injects personal belief into the equation without considering the human element or that no one is invincible and we all grow old eventually.

But simple minds are required to reduce every question to "love/hate."

The emotional reaction, I submitted in another thread, and posit here now
(with the confidence of being a minority myself) but is she was a white
athlete, then you would be seeing the exact opposite reaction.

I think you are right that this leads to retirement.

 

[Champakian]

Text copied from an email that's going around; verified through additional sources.

Elena Mukhina was the women's gymnastics World Champion in 1978. She broke her leg and was not permitted the appropriate time to heal. Soviet gymnastics coaches pressured doctors to remove her cast early so she could start training for the 1980 Olympics.

She protested heavily, as she knew her leg was not properly healed and would not withstand the grueling training regimen typical of her sport. Trainers and coaches dismissed her concerns and forced her to continue her training.

While practicing the Thomas Salto (since banned for being so dangerous), she underrotated due to her newly weakened leg, and she landed on her chin. She broke her neck, which rendered her quadriplegic for the rest of her life. She was 20 years old at the time and died at 46.

Reports from Tokyo are that Simone Biles does not trust her own mind and body right now. Given the high level of difficulty (and danger) of the skills she performs, it is asking A LOT to expect her to continue to perform before that self-trust is restored. By pulling out of the team finals, she is listening to her body and her mind and giving herself enough time to heal so she can continue being the badass Queen she was meant to be.

Simone is doing what Elena was not permitted to do- be a voice for her own body and mental health. Anybody who would malign Simone for pulling out of the team final (and daring them to settle for the silver medal) should consider how they'd feel if, instead of reading the headline "Simone Biles pulls out of team final", they were greeted with "Simone Biles paralyzed during dismount."

And if you asked the rest of Team USA if they'd rather have a healthy Simone Biles or a gold medal, you know damn well what they'd answer, and they wouldn't have to think for a second.

This is as good a post to play off as any.

First off, I want to point out that I was an athlete for over 30 years in active competition.
Did I play through injuries? You bet I did! Did I play through mental uncertainty?
Of course I did. In my early days of competition, I lost almost every match I was in to
more experienced players. So I have more than a little bit of insight into the mind of
the athlete. (I would direct you to my earlier post on page one.)

First off, she was not physically injured. So she was not being "forced" into further
injury. So let's dismiss that and get straight to state of mind.

She's a legend. She's the gold standard. This was going to be her swan song,
to come in, win it all bask in her deserved glory and then retire at the top of her game.
Then, one bad, not even difficult by her standards, event derailed all of that and brought
reality crashing down upon her -- the legend was over. That's her mental anguish. Like
too many other athletes, she believed the press, the machinations in her mind and she
never dreamed that she would choke. So she found an excuse and clearly a cadre of
apologists. She has a sympathetic back story and she was easy to get emotionally
invested in, and that's pretty much what we are witnessing here (I also direct you to the
comment I just made to Harpy).

As far as the idiotic claim that she could break her neck, I have some questions for y'all.

How many times do you think she practiced that vault in the gym? How many times
do you think she fell, or made a mistake that resulted in a hard landing? Did she break
her neck? Do you think she quit? But, then, nobody but her coaches was watching her.

She engaged in a passive-aggressive temper tantrum. The Queen was dethroned
and now, she continues to steal the spotlight from those who are performing...

In America, when you fall off of your (pommel) horse, you get back up on it.

 

[sigh]

Stoke your dick, big boy. Are you enjoying it?

Now there's a man's man.