Simone Biles - Quitter or Wise?

[Aglaopheme]

Except it is 100% true that she was abused by Nassar.

 

[FataMorgana]

After reading all this I think I may have judged her harshly in the other thread.

 

[schism666]

I once competed with a 102º fever.
I had to because like NASCAR, it was a point-based season.

In the heavyweight division, I lost to some schlubb that had never beaten me before.
Well, he ran all around the gym a hootin' and a hollerin', bragging about his great accomplishment.

Did I quit? No, I was still able to compete in the executive division, which I won handily.

Then in the Grand Champion competition, I beat the lightweight winner and then faced the same idiot and spanked his ass.

AN ATHLETE, A FIGHTER, THEY NEVER GIVE UP! NEVER SURRENDER!

You dust yourself off and just get ready for the next fight.
You don't let one bad outcome turn you into a fucking quitter!

did you choose ryu or ken




https://i.imgur.com/1dkYbRQ.jpg

 

[RoryN]

If she had a penis, this discussion would have lasted 24 - 48 hours, max. Slightly longer if she didn't, but was white. Zero time if we had anything close to a respectable perspective on mental health.

The fact that she represents this sick country of ours at all is an act of charity on her part.

 

[juttjaw]

She dropped out because she did not want to drag her team down in the competition because of her mental injury. Wise choice. Her team mate got the gold medal.

Team player.

100% true.

 

[ll74]

Do you think Simone Biles is a quitter or that she was wise to make the decision to pull out of the competition?

She made the decision she wanted to make. That's wise.

She knows what's best for herself and her team. Anyone outside of that is irrelevant.

 

[contrifan32]

If she had a penis, this discussion would have lasted 24 - 48 hours, max. Slightly longer if she didn't, but was white. Zero time if we had anything close to a respectable perspective on mental health.

The fact that she represents this sick country of ours at all is an act of charity on her part.

And if you had a penis, maybe you wouldn't be such a tool.

 

[butters]

not only wise, but she's a tough cookie who has performed before with broken toes and sprained ankles

the olympics demands athletes perform at their highest abilities--and beyond.
pressure's put on them by everyone rooting for her to win gold, hell, expecting her to win gold again, by their trainers and themselves.

what she did took thoughtfulness, courage, and humility. at 24, this could even be her last olympics yet she decided not to risk her body and chance the kind of mental anguish to her friends and family that a life-long injury or even death could have caused. her decision allowed other gymnasts to shine their brightest and win their own medals, and didn't drag down the entire team.

those bellowing about her withdrawing from competitions are cunts who wouldn't risk getting a damned splinter or feeling a bit hot from wearing a mask to protect others. they see her pulling out as a personal affront to them as they'd not then be able to brag about usa taking more medals (writing off ALL the other team gymnasts in the process)... the other gymnasts proved them wrong.

 

[spacekowboy]

And in the history of gymnastics, how often has that happened to top-tier athletes?

Keri Strug broke her ankle in 96 and could have done far worse, you fucking imbecile.
Elena Mukhina broke her neck after being forced to compete too early coming off an injury and was a quadripelegic for the rest of her life.

Also, raise your hand if you actually think Keyboard Warrior has competed at anything resembling physical competition in his entire hate-fueled life?


*Crickets*

 

[DeluxAuto]

I once competed with a 102º fever.
I had to because like NASCAR, it was a point-based season.

In the heavyweight division, I lost to some schlubb that had never beaten me before.
Well, he ran all around the gym a hootin' and a hollerin', bragging about his great accomplishment.

Did I quit? No, I was still able to compete in the executive division, which I won handily.

Then in the Grand Champion competition, I beat the lightweight winner and then faced the same idiot and spanked his ass.

AN ATHLETE, A FIGHTER, THEY NEVER GIVE UP! NEVER SURRENDER!

You dust yourself off and just get ready for the next fight.
You don't let one bad outcome turn you into a fucking quitter!

You fighting in a podunk town 50 years ago means absolutely nothing. The best part is that you think it does. You're Al Bundy throwing 4 TDs in highschool.

 

[DeluxAuto]

And if you had a penis, maybe you wouldn't be such a tool.

That's the best you got?

 

[silver gurl]

Keri Strug broke her ankle in 96 and could have done far worse, you fucking imbecile.
Elena Mukhina broke her neck after being forced to compete too early coming off an injury and was a quadripelegic for the rest of her life.

Also, raise your hand if you actually think Keyboard Warrior has competed at anything resembling physical competition in his entire hate-fueled life?


*Crickets*

He is a bit of a bitter Betty this morning.

 

[RoryN]

That's the best you got?

He's one of the "gotta post immediately when RoryN triggers me" crotchety, racist guy crew. They never have clever content; they just spew.

(But they used to have more members.)

 

[rockcasbah]

I think one of the things that I find interesting is that so many who criticize her are forgetting the last decade or so.

She's performed at such a high level of difficulty that they can't even score her accurately. She's quite literally done things we didn't even think were possible. She's 24 years old. Her record of accomplishment speaks for itself.

Maybe Larry Nassar’s touch was behind the magic…?

 

[spacekowboy]

He's one of the "gotta post immediately when RoryN triggers me" crotchety, racist guy crew. They never have clever content; they just spew.

(But they used to have more members.)

Ts&Ps.

 

[Lazaran]

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Well, the quitter option is right out the window because she is already the GOAT. Quitters don't achieve that level of success.

Wise is obviously the correct choice. The results speak for themselves. Simone seems to be in decent health mentally. That is evidenced by her making the decision NOT to participate, and enthusiastically supporting her teammates. She is also in decent health physically, which may not have presently been the case if she HAD participated at much less than 100%

Her decision NOT to participate at much less than 100%, also very likely salvaged a great Olympics for USA women's gymnastics. A team silver and Suni Lee's individual Gold, so far, is a pretty strong argument for Simone's decision being the right one.

The attention her decision has brought to athletes mental health, and mental health in general, was also a positive. Internalizing mental health issues until a person breaks, or until they break others, is a far too common occurrence; particularly in the USA.

Simone was VERY wise.

 

[zoso682001]

Wise is the only rational decision . What this may mean is that some may never grasp it .

 

[Lazaran]

I once competed with a 102º fever.
I had to because like NASCAR, it was a point-based season.

In the heavyweight division, I lost to some schlubb that had never beaten me before.
Well, he ran all around the gym a hootin' and a hollerin', bragging about his great accomplishment.

Did I quit? No, I was still able to compete in the executive division, which I won handily.

Then in the Grand Champion competition, I beat the lightweight winner and then faced the same idiot and spanked his ass.

AN ATHLETE, A FIGHTER, THEY NEVER GIVE UP! NEVER SURRENDER!

You dust yourself off and just get ready for the next fight.
You don't let one bad outcome turn you into a fucking quitter!

Do go on...,,

You are the poster child for extreme toxic "masculinity".

Lay off the roids "champ".

JFC

SAD!!!

 

[spacekowboy]

He is a bit of a bitter Betty this morning.

Although if he were a boxer at some point that would explain the brain damage.

 

[butters]

https://imgur.com/gallery/KOBpKQt

 

[Lazaran]

https://imgur.com/gallery/KOBpKQt

Hilarious and true.

 

[Comshaw]

I once competed with a 102º fever.
I had to because like NASCAR, it was a point-based season.

In the heavyweight division, I lost to some schlubb that had never beaten me before.
Well, he ran all around the gym a hootin' and a hollerin', bragging about his great accomplishment.

Did I quit? No, I was still able to compete in the executive division, which I won handily.

Then in the Grand Champion competition, I beat the lightweight winner and then faced the same idiot and spanked his ass.

AN ATHLETE, A FIGHTER, THEY NEVER GIVE UP! NEVER SURRENDER!

You dust yourself off and just get ready for the next fight.
You don't let one bad outcome turn you into a fucking quitter!

For the sake of argument let's say everything you said is true. To be clear, I'm not disputing it or endorsing it. I do not have the facts to do either. So let's just go with assuming it's true.

Who were you competing for? Just yourself, no one else. You had no one else to consider, no other involved factors to ponder. If you had dropped out of the competition the only one affected (other than those who lost to you) would be you.

Now consider Simone. She's at the top of her sport. She's won more times than anyone. Most everyone involved with gymnastics consider her to be the best ever. I'm sure in the past, because of her champion status, she's competed in similar circumstances to what you describe.

Her mental health was only 1/3 of the reason she withdrew. She had two others to answer for: her teammates and her country. She realized she wasn't prepared for this, wasn't going to be at the level she needed to be. She withdrew not just for her mental health, but because she was afraid she would drag her team down.

That's the big difference between what you described and what she did. You were competing only for yourself, answerable only to yourself. As a part of a team (team captain to be precise) she had to think of who else would be affected by her choice. She didn't let her ego rule her and took the high road. She took into consideration all the factors and made the best choice, the right choice. She gave up a crack at a gold medal to make sure her team had the best chance at one.

You can think whatever you wish too: Quiter, wimp, whatever. Her record shows just how off the mark and wrong you are. I for one think what she did is admirable.

Comshaw

 

[rockcasbah]

Take away the American obsession with creating, then destroying celebrities and Biles is just one of the thousands of petite young females bending and spreading in skimpy clothes for a living.

She’s probably sore and tired from posing and jumping around
in spandex.

 

[dolf]

And in the history of gymnastics, how often has that happened to top-tier athletes?

By funny coincidence, this appeared in my feed just minutes ago.

 

[Lazaran]

By funny coincidence, this appeared in my feed just minutes ago.

Yeah, those ladies words carry far more weight than people like "champ".

Two more votes for Simone being wise.

*nods*