Should I kill him?

[FurryFury]

I would have preferred to stop aging at about 19. That birthday where I went from being a teen to being 20 was the hardest I've ever had. LOL.

Now I don't care as much, very often, no, really, I don't care . . .

 

[CutieMouse]

But why? We have other things that are more valuable and sex is certainly not only about the physical. I feel like I have much more to give in every sense of the word and I am much more generous with it (and not in the sexual sense, although with me I suspect many people would think that). I am much more comfortable with my body now than i was 20 years ago. I am more skilled sexually. I have more confidence, enter a room with greater power. I do keep in shape, but you're right, I WILL NEVER look 25 again, no matter how many minutes per day I do my crunches or my facial exercises. I like the lines in my face, and in the faces of others my age - we have character now. We are "fully formed."

Not everyone likes older women, but what's wrong with a younger guy having that kink? It's another type of wiring, another preference, like liking blonds or bbw's... Most of us are discomfitted by seeing an older woman and younger man together. We're not discomfitted by seeing an older man with a younger woman. Why? It seems to be a pecularly American thing... Helen Mirren, who is considered a sex symbol in many parts of the world - they don't know what to do with her in Hollywood! They cast her as the stern headmistress in silly teen movies!

Would I prefer that I not age? Of course - I'd love to be permanently stuck at 39 (I especially hate seeing my 20/20 vision go). But it's not going to change - I need to appreciate what I have and who I am now. I met a magnificent Domme at a play party I went to about a month ago (she introduced herself to me.) She was in her 70's. Felt perfectly comfortable walking around topless. Her sub was much, much younger. (Middle-aged.) I loved that she oozed so much power and control. She had a presence that was very sexual.

Clearly, you touched a nerve, LOL! I wil get off my soapbox now.

Neon

Oh you're right... I have far more to offer at 35 than I ever did at 25, and I'd honestly not want to go back to 25 for all the tea in China. And it isn't as if I'm the sort who prefers to be noticed for her body over her mind, because I honestly abhore being noticed for something so fleeting and inconsequential... I think I'm having a struggling with feeling loveable week; I'll soon give myself a shake, and go back to feeling way more interesting than a youngster with a perfect tummy.

 

[Sir_Winston54]

Okayyy... sort of generalized responses to a some of the things that have been said in the last 100 or so posts in this thread:

1) Don't kill him. You've got too much time and energy invested in him.

2) While I'd love to play with a 20-25 year-old hardbody, and stripe her cute little ass all up, etc., etc., at the end of the session (and after aftercare), it's "See ya, honey - it was fun," because it's about 99.9994% certain that she's not going to have enough life experience, general knowledge, etc., for her mind to engage me for ten minutes, let alone a relationship. For that, I want someone who has lived, who knows what she thinks/feels about things, and can express herself without a "like" or "you know" every 8th word.

3) MILFs - I think it's a combination of factors for most of the MILF-lovers: slightly older (though I've seen some 25-yo's referred to as MILFs just because they'd had a kid or three when they were 16, 17, 18 ); something of the "they've had it before and know what to do with it" factor; as well as the somewhat more mature body, which again indicates experience, thus presumably expertise. Regarding the "squick" factor of MILF for most of us in the U.S. and English-speaking part of the world, at least, for many, since "motherfucker" is one of the worst insults one can throw out, then MILF brings the mind back to that pejorative and results in the distaste. That also would apply to some extent to our discomfort in seeing a woman with a noticeably younger male escort.

Enuf for now. Just wanted to throw another (devalued) $0.02 worth in there.

 

[zuzub]

I just can't seem to see far enough past the adventures one's body goes through, to understand the hottness of MILF status. LOL I can grasp that (while dressed) I look damned good for a woman who has given birth eleventy-million times; why a man would want this body over that of a 25 year old, confuses the hell out of me. Add to that, that it mostly seems to be a younger guy kink, with the whole Mrs. Robinson thing, and I'm just koo koo kachoo'd into creepy old woman-land... and not in a good way. LOL

I gotta say I'm with you on this one. I'm 42 and the only men who approach me, flirt with me, or ask me out are younger. And I mean significantly younger, like barely post-fetus status. I don't get it. The latest one is 29 which I only discovered a month ago. This is particularly irritating since I've already loaned him my crotch. Sigh. You really do have to be so careful on the internet.

The whole thing is annoying. Why don't they play with people their own age and how come people our own age aren't playing with us?

 

[zuzub]

Just wanted to throw another (devalued) $0.02 worth in there.

Are you Canadian, Sir W?

 

[FurryFury]

Okayyy... sort of generalized responses to a some of the things that have been said in the last 100 or so posts in this thread:

1) Don't kill him. You've got too much time and energy invested in him.

2) While I'd love to play with a 20-25 year-old hardbody, and stripe her cute little ass all up, etc., etc., at the end of the session (and after aftercare), it's "See ya, honey - it was fun," because it's about 99.9994% certain that she's not going to have enough life experience, general knowledge, etc., for her mind to engage me for ten minutes, let alone a relationship. For that, I want someone who has lived, who knows what she thinks/feels about things, and can express herself without a "like" or "you know" every 8th word.

3) MILFs - I think it's a combination of factors for most of the MILF-lovers: slightly older (though I've seen some 25-yo's referred to as MILFs just because they'd had a kid or three when they were 16, 17, 18 ); something of the "they've had it before and know what to do with it" factor; as well as the somewhat more mature body, which again indicates experience, thus presumably expertise. Regarding the "squick" factor of MILF for most of us in the U.S. and English-speaking part of the world, at least, for many, since "motherfucker" is one of the worst insults one can throw out, then MILF brings the mind back to that pejorative and results in the distaste. That also would apply to some extent to our discomfort in seeing a woman with a noticeably younger male escort.

Enuf for now. Just wanted to throw another (devalued) $0.02 worth in there.

Good points.

I say we take back the word "motherfucker" and reclaim it!

Who is with me?

*smiles*

 

[FurryFury]

I gotta say I'm with you on this one. I'm 42 and the only men who approach me, flirt with me, or ask me out are younger. And I mean significantly younger, like barely post-fetus status. I don't get it. The latest one is 29 which I only discovered a month ago. This is particularly irritating since I've already loaned him my crotch. Sigh. You really do have to be so careful on the internet.

The whole thing is annoying. Why don't they play with people their own age and how come people our own age aren't playing with us?

Maybe because they can't get it up?

Just sayin'

I think it makes perfect sense to date a younger guy on a comparative sex drives level alone.

 

[Sir_Winston54]

Are you Canadian, Sir W?

Nope, East Tennessee... the "devalued" part is because the U.S. $ at this point is about at its lowest comparative value to other currencies (especially the Canadian $) in a long time.

 

[CutieMouse]

I gotta say I'm with you on this one. I'm 42 and the only men who approach me, flirt with me, or ask me out are younger. And I mean significantly younger, like barely post-fetus status. I don't get it. The latest one is 29 which I only discovered a month ago. This is particularly irritating since I've already loaned him my crotch. Sigh. You really do have to be so careful on the internet.

The whole thing is annoying. Why don't they play with people their own age and how come people our own age aren't playing with us?

You're a step ahead of me... men don't approach, flirt with, or ask me out. LOL (*disclaimer- there are a few at Lit who will tease me, but I'm talking about real life )

Barely post-fetus status. I love that term. *chuckles*

It is a bit hypocritical of me to not get the younger guy/older woman thing though, because generally speaking, the men who are able to hold *my* attention for more than 10 minutes, are 10-25 years older then me. Men within 5 years of my age tend to be either non-monogomous, immature, afraid to show their brains, caught up in their toys, or all of the above. Not all of them- just a lot of them.

 

[zuzub]

....tend to be either non-monogomous, immature, afraid to show their brains, caught up in their toys, or all of the above. Not all of them- just a lot of them.

Hmm. Interesting observation qt. These traits are definitely true of the toy boy set. Maybe that's why they're attracted to older women, the comparative 'risk' of a sexual relationship developing into a long term, love relationship is lower.

I may fuck you, but you ain't gonna be my man.

 

[DVS]

Maybe because they can't get it up?

Just sayin'

I think it makes perfect sense to date a younger guy on a comparative sex drives level alone.

Pardon me? You can't come up with anything better than "maybe because they can't get it up?"

I'm 54 years old and I have no trouble getting it up. The problem is when I ask, they say no thanks. I think they might not think they are appealing to the opoposite sex with their clothes off, or they are uncomfortable with their own body.

It could either be that or maybe they just don't like my looks. I'm sorry, but don't dish it off on the men not asking or not being able to preform. It might be because we've just plain given up asking. You can take rejection for only so long before you can't handle it any more.

 

[LadyAria]

In this day, they can all get it up thanks to pfizer. Age is not really a performance factor like it use to be. It all in the flavor and style you like your man-meat served.

 

[Evil_Geoff]

... how come people our own age aren't playing with us?

Because y'all are younger than me...

 

[Evil_Geoff]

... the men who are able to hold *my* attention for more than 10 minutes, are 10-25 years older then me. Men within 5 years of my age tend to be either non-monogomous, immature, afraid to show their brains, caught up in their toys, or all of the above. Not all of them- just a lot of them.

I'd ask you out since I'm in that 10-25 years older bracket... but ya nailed me on the non-monogamous thing... *sighs*

I'm non-monogamous, but in a good "this is what everyone concerned is wanting to explore, it's all above board and open, discussed and agreed on" polyamorously capable way. Not the open and honest "lets go to a party and see who we can pick up and swing with" kind of way. And DEFINITELY NOT the sneak around behind my partner's back and cheat kind of way.

And Cutie, you are a cutie with your clothes on. I can only imagine the delightful discoveries I would make if I were to unwrap the package...

 

[FurryFury]

Um, I was just thinking about when my Dad died and my mom started dating. At that time she was 47. Now I admit she is NOT good at picking decent men. She might have been looking in the wrong places.

However the majority of men she dated her age or older did have trouble getting it up. One had to get a shot in his cock to get it up.

She was quite beautiful and every engaging back then. I found the whole thing shocking.

I didn't mind when she dated someone younger than me until, A.) They started lieing about it. B.) They stopped using barrier method birth control C.) they each did other people D.) They had a pregnancy scare and E.) She started telling people he was her son.

So that's what I was thinking of.

No offense was intended to any man that age much less someone on this board.

*humbly abases self thinking do with me as you will - perks*

 

[CutieMouse]

I'd ask you out since I'm in that 10-25 years older bracket... but ya nailed me on the non-monogamous thing... *sighs*

I'm non-monogamous, but in a good "this is what everyone concerned is wanting to explore, it's all above board and open, discussed and agreed on" polyamorously capable way. Not the open and honest "lets go to a party and see who we can pick up and swing with" kind of way. And DEFINITELY NOT the sneak around behind my partner's back and cheat kind of way.

Oh I don't have anything against the poly thing- I tried it once upon a time, just long enough to know it isn't a good fit for me.

My problem with most men around my age that are non-monogomous, is that (generally speaking) they are of the "I heard about this thing called polyamory! Cool! I can get as much tail as I want!" ilk, wander down the path of swinging ("The CraigsList ad SAYS they're D&D free and we'll use a condom!")... and never really seem to move beyond that point. LOL

 

[Ebonyfire]

However the majority of men she dated her age or older did have trouble getting it up. One had to get a shot in his cock to get it up.

Well I do not have that problem, in fact I spend a lot of time beating it down with my rider's crop.

And I have had at least two submissives in their 50s who have health concerns that resulted in them having prescriptions to viagra. What was interesting was that they never had to use it when Mistress was around. The mind is very powerful.

Now having said that, I did have a relationship with an older man with diabetes, and he could not prop it up with a stick. He had other compensating talents.

It just depends. I could tell stories about the short comings of the some the younger men, but that would be mean, lol.

 

[Ebonyfire]

Well I am a woman, and I tell my submissives that I am not particularly monogamous, but I am lazy.

 

[DVS]

Um, I was just thinking about when my Dad died and my mom started dating. At that time she was 47. Now I admit she is NOT good at picking decent men. She might have been looking in the wrong places.

However the majority of men she dated her age or older did have trouble getting it up. One had to get a shot in his cock to get it up.

She was quite beautiful and every engaging back then. I found the whole thing shocking.

I didn't mind when she dated someone younger than me until, A.) They started lieing about it. B.) They stopped using barrier method birth control C.) they each did other people D.) They had a pregnancy scare and E.) She started telling people he was her son.

So that's what I was thinking of.

No offense was intended to any man that age much less someone on this board.

*humbly abases self thinking do with me as you will - perks*

Well, you know I'm pissed...and it's not a good thing for you, when I'm pissed at you. I'm very devious when I'm nice and calm. Can you imagine what I'm like when I'm a little pissed? I'm likely to tie you up, take a knife and cut off your clothes, leaving you totally naked and vulnerable. Then I'd tell you about all of the things I'd do to you if I wasn't pissed at you...just to watch you squirm.

I'd touch you just enough to keep you in the frame of mind I want you. So, you continue to hunger for more, pleading with me, even begging me to take out my aggressions on your helpless body because you deserve it.

Oh, keep it up. I might show you how hard my cock is, just from watching your quivering body and slap it against your face, and the needy look in your eyes tries to tempt me...your mouth invites me to shove it deep into your throat.

What I might do is jack off and cum all over your face, then watch it drip down your cheeks while you still whimper your desire to be used in any way I wish as punishment.

I stroke my cock until it's hard again, while I lightly rub your clit until it's twitching. Thin I might hold my hard cock right in front of your face, just close enough so you can touch it with your tongue. I'll listen while you again offer your body to me for punishment. I smile and continue to stroke my hard cock.

 

[zuzub]

Well, you know I'm pissed...and it's not a good thing for you, when I'm pissed at you. I'm very devious when I'm nice and calm. Can you imagine what I'm like when I'm a little pissed? I'm likely to tie you up, take a knife and cut off your clothes, leaving you totally naked and vulnerable. Then I'd tell you about all of the things I'd do to you if I wasn't pissed at you...just to watch you squirm.

I'd touch you just enough to keep you in the frame of mind I want you. So, you continue to hunger for more, pleading with me, even begging me to take out my aggressions on your helpless body because you deserve it.

Oh, keep it up. I might show you how hard my cock is, just from watching your quivering body and slap it against your face, and the needy look in your eyes tries to tempt me...your mouth invites me to shove it deep into your throat.

What I might do is jack off and cum all over your face, then watch it drip down your cheeks while you still whimper your desire to be used in any way I wish as punishment.

I stroke my cock until it's hard again, while I lightly rub your clit until it's twitching. Thin I might hold my hard cock right in front of your face, just close enough so you can touch it with your tongue. I'll listen while you again offer your body to me for punishment. I smile and continue to stroke my hard cock.

OK, he wins.

 

[FurryFury]

OK, he wins.

Yes he did. But that is a Dom's prerogative after all.

But wait, so would any sub lucky enough to have him claim them!

 

[Ebonyfire]

Pardon me? You can't come up with anything better than "maybe because they can't get it up?"

I'm 54 years old and I have no trouble getting it up. The problem is when I ask, they say no thanks. I think they might not think they are appealing to the opoposite sex with their clothes off, or they are uncomfortable with their own body.

It could either be that or maybe they just don't like my looks. I'm sorry, but don't dish it off on the men not asking or not being able to preform. It might be because we've just plain given up asking. You can take rejection for only so long before you can't handle it any more.

I am nodding my head with ya there! I do not have any trouble with the men in my age range. None!

 

[FurryFury]

This is actually very reassuring. Not that I'm dating anyone other than my husband, who has no problems in that area, but still it's good to know!

 

[neonflux]

Well, you know I'm pissed...and it's not a good thing for you, when I'm pissed at you. I'm very devious when I'm nice and calm. Can you imagine what I'm like when I'm a little pissed? I'm likely to tie you up, take a knife and cut off your clothes, leaving you totally naked and vulnerable. Then I'd tell you about all of the things I'd do to you if I wasn't pissed at you...just to watch you squirm.

I'd touch you just enough to keep you in the frame of mind I want you. So, you continue to hunger for more, pleading with me, even begging me to take out my aggressions on your helpless body because you deserve it.

Oh, keep it up. I might show you how hard my cock is, just from watching your quivering body and slap it against your face, and the needy look in your eyes tries to tempt me...your mouth invites me to shove it deep into your throat.

What I might do is jack off and cum all over your face, then watch it drip down your cheeks while you still whimper your desire to be used in any way I wish as punishment.

I stroke my cock until it's hard again, while I lightly rub your clit until it's twitching. Thin I might hold my hard cock right in front of your face, just close enough so you can touch it with your tongue. I'll listen while you again offer your body to me for punishment. I smile and continue to stroke my hard cock.

Your post very well illustrates a good point about about men in their mid-40s and above - a younger man may be able to cum more often, but he also does it much more quickly and with much less skill. Although a young "bite" can certainly prove a tasty treat now and then, on an ongoing basis, I would much rather have a man with sexual experience who can control his body and knows it well enough to attend to my pleasure easily. Life experience is certainly also a plus - the mind being the sexiest organ of the human body, after all.

HOWEVER!!! Like Zusub, I am far more likely to be approached by a younger man than someone closer to my age. Youse-guys are all out chasing women in their late 20s to mid-30s.

Neon

 

[FurryFury]

DVS is devious and, at times, (see above), cruel.

I LIKE him SO much!