Shame and Humiliation

[xssve]

So, you know enough about men to state with certainty that what the Doc is saying has absolutely no validity although it has occurred to at least two people independently?

 

[xssve]

Granted, many men don't have that much imagination, and most probably just roll over and go to sleep.

You'll have to address that one, it's outside my experience.

 

[Stella_Omega]

So, you know enough about men to state with certainty that what the Doc is saying has absolutely no validity although it has occurred to at least two people independently?

What's with the absolute?

Heh, maybe it was the Doc...

So is that still two independent people?

 

[xssve]

What's with the absolute?

If there is any validity at all to it, then there is no reason to dispute it at all, except to make a nuisance of yourself.

And it's already two to one, as long as we're going to settle it by voting - I don't think it was the Doc, Unless he started writing when he was Twelve.

 

[xssve]

I'm sure I can go round up a couple of Domme's to pad out my side.

 

[Stella_Omega]

If there is any validity at all to it, then there is no reason to dispute it at all, except to make a nuisance of yourself.

And it's already two to one, as long as we're going to settle it by voting - I don't think it was the Doc, Unless he started writing when he was Twelve.

I can absolutely state that two men have said it's valid for them.

 

[xssve]

And don't even get me started with the small dick thing, it's a national obsession, it's even on television, same thing with ED.

I'm trying to imagine what kind of reception one of those commercials would have gotten back in the Fifties or Sixties.

 

[xssve]

I can absolutely state that two men have said it's valid for them.

And that makes it valid, period.

 

[Stella_Omega]

And that makes it valid, period.

Yes, dear.

 

[xssve]

God, you are part man!

 

[Stella_Omega]

God, you are part man!

Yeah, and you argue like a girl.

 

[AllardChardon]

Doc,

Thank you for explaining what I have always suspected about the male/female relationship on a much deeper level.

The mysterious quality of women has confounded man for eons and was the reason behind suppressing women and their natural powers.

You forgot to add that women are not, by design, made to perform the necessary act for sexuall intercourse, namely get and keep a hard- on and maybe get another one in less than a hour. If women had to do this, I wonder if there would be female sex drugs to assist in the older years.

This burden plus the immense desire to "do it right" makes for intense pressure on the male. All I have to do is look interested. At first...

Allard

 

[xssve]

Yeah, and you argue like a girl.

You're even starting to sound like amicus.

 

[Stella_Omega]

You're even starting to sound like amicus

Ad-Homs? You bitch!

 

[xssve]

You love it.

 

[AllardChardon]

Taking bets on the side for who will get the last word...

Who's backing Stella?

XssVe?

What about betting who will give up first? (Isn't that more noble?)

What's wrong with yelling "Uncle"? My brother, two years older, used to pin me down all the time. I yelled Uncle regularly and I am somewhat well adjusted.

 

[xssve]

I have the distinct advantage in that I have no life.

 

[xssve]

Doc,

Thank you for explaining what I have always suspected about the male/female relationship on a much deeper level.

The mysterious quality of women has confounded man for eons and was the reason behind suppressing women and their natural powers.

You forgot to add that women are not, by design, made to perform the necessary act for sexuall intercourse, namely get and keep a hard- on and maybe get another one in less than a hour. If women had to do this, I wonder if there would be female sex drugs to assist in the older years.

This burden plus the immense desire to "do it right" makes for intense pressure on the male. All I have to do is look interested. At first...

Allard

It's a big deal for some guys, a lot of men our parents age got caught inthe middle of all this sexual revolution business, they'd never had to worry about female orgasms before.

Post sexual revolution, if the Lady doesn't orgasm you're a failure, it's made the whole thing very competitive, and not everybody works well under pressure.

My Dad is bald, my brother started balding in his early Twenties, so I resigned myself to going bald when I was still doing sums and quit worrying about it, but started thinking of ways not to look like too much of a dork when I did.

Course nobody had thought of just shaving their heads in those days.

Anyway, after that, I figured if there ever came a day I couldn't get it up, I wasn't going to worry about that either.

 

[Stella_Omega]

Taking bets on the side for who will get the last word...

Who's backing Stella?

XssVe?

What about betting who will give up first? (Isn't that more noble?)

What's wrong with yelling "Uncle"? My brother, two years older, used to pin me down all the time. I yelled Uncle regularly and I am somewhat well adjusted.

I said 'Yes Dear'-- isn't that the same thing?

 

[AllardChardon]

Our bodies change over the years and some of us remain sexually healthier than others. Genetics plays a huge part and so does diet.

But to expect to stay the way it was when you were young is not "aging gracefully" at all. We have to work with what we've got and enhance any aspects of ourselves that we can.

Letting go of shame and feelings of humiliation is paramount to aging gracefully. I think of the movie The Portrait of Dorian Grey often as I age. It had a huge impact on me as a young girl.

 

[voluptuary_manque]

Our bodies change over the years and some of us remain sexually healthier than others. Genetics plays a huge part and so does diet.

But to expect to stay the way it was when you were young is not "aging gracefully" at all. We have to work with what we've got and enhance any aspects of ourselves that we can.

Letting go of shame and feelings of humiliation is paramount to aging gracefully. I think of the movie The Portrait of Dorian Grey often as I age. It had a huge impact on me as a young girl.

And here I always thot that people think I'm younger than I really be 'cause ah'm too stoopid to worry 'bout nuttin' so's Ah don't wrinkle none. Nebber thot it was 'cause Ah ain't shamed ob nuttin'.

http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii177/1volupturary_manque/lol.gif

 

[AllardChardon]

Stella,

My Dad called it the "Yes, but... Game" from some book he read when I was a teenager, I think. You agree with the yes, and then add, but... adding in your rebuttle, which makes the "thing" go on and on.

I had a friend that loved to argue and I mean LOVED to argue. After several spoiled evenings trying to defend myself logically, I gave up and started agreeing without agreeing, so to speak.

Here is a typical non-response.

"Thank you for enlightening me on that subject. I never looked at it that way before. Let me think about that and get back to you."

By seeming to agree without adding the RE- BUT -TLE, it stops much quicker.

And you don't feel weird about ending the discussion becuuase you did not agree with them. And you avoid feeling humiliated because you went a little farther than you intended in the first place to make your point. This drove me crazy afterwards more than once.

Hormones are rough little silent monsters of the blood, aren't they?

Allard

 

[Guest]

Ad-Homs? You bitch!

Some women liked being called a bitch.

 

[Stella_Omega]

Some women liked being called a bitch.

Now you-- I'll call you absolutely anything that makes you happy.

Allard, I know about the non-rebuttal style of answering. And I do use it pretty often, because arguing on the internet is like fishing for gophers. But sometimes, dammit those gophers just beg to be hooked and the next thing you know...


But in this case, my efforts weren't nearly as fruitless as they might seem to be-- I've received unexpected bounty.

 

[xssve]

It's cool Allard, Stella and I have kissed and made up, and Cloudy is off terrorizing some poor newbie.