Shame and Humiliation

[Stella_Omega]

Well heck, xssve looks like these women are getting your goat. "Bimbos?" "fuck off?" Not exactly your snappiest retorts there bro!

Granted, I think you might have more of a fight on your hands than you first realized. You see, I'm of the opinion that all of these women not only are due respect, but DEMAND it.

Of course, you can say what you want on the internet and hide behind you anonymity. that's probably a good thing too. I'd guess otherwise they’d be wiring up you broken jaw right about now.

I’m also REAL sure that if any REAL man heard you talking like that he’d offer to help, not they seem to need it, but just out of righteous indignation for you being such a condescending, pompous asshole.

Thanks, Foxy, but let me clarify;

I don't think I'm due respect solely because of my sex.

I am equally positive that no woman deserves disrespect solely because of her sex.

"Woman" really doesn't have much to do with it.

I am positive likewise that no man should be judged solely and alone because of his sex. Not all men are assholes and not all assholes are men.

Why xssve needs to believe that I hate men, instead of admitting that I'm merely irritated with him-- Well, that's one way to swim the river De Nile, I suppose.

 

[cloudy]

Why xssve needs to believe that I hate men, instead of admitting that I'm merely irritated with him-- Well, that's one way to swim the river De Nile, I suppose.

Because that way he doesn't have to take any responsibility for his actions/words.

 

[dr_mabeuse]

No Doc it's not the end of the world. Don't get all cranked about what I was trying to say. I'm just trying to express that being called a Bimbo is not complementary. With most chicks it's a one way ticket to Slap City. Come on, chill dude!

Well I didn't think being called a "fox" or a "babe" was especially complimentary either. Doesn't it kind of imply that you're light upstairs?

That's why I don't say anything to women anymore. It's safer that way.

No wait. That's a generalization. I don't say anything to female individuals. Until I know it's safe.

 

[Guest]

Well I didn't think being called a "fox" or a "babe" was especially complimentary either. Doesn't it kind of imply that you're light upstairs?

That's why I don't say anything to women anymore. It's safer that way.

No wait. That's a generalization. I don't say anything to female individuals. Until I know it's safe.

Stop it.

You are a gentleman.

 

[xssve]

Well heck, xssve looks like these women are getting your goat. "Bimbos?" "fuck off?" Not exactly your snappiest retorts there bro!

Note the level of conversation here:

Which he seems unable to grasp, despite several women telling him that over and over and over....

Stupid is as stupid does.

- I bet cloudy really strained her alleged Lit degree with all those big words - or maybe she just gave the prof a blowjob.

Stella at least makes an argument before descending into personal invective, whereas with Cloudy, my only satisfaction is that I can't actually hear her voice which I'm sure has all the soothing ambiance of fingernails across a Blackboard.

Granted, I think you might have more of a fight on your hands than you first realized. You see, I'm of the opinion that all of these women not only are due respect, but DEMAND it.

You gotta give to get.

Of course, you can say what you want on the internet and hide behind you anonymity. that's probably a good thing too. I'd guess otherwise they’d be wiring up you broken jaw right about now.

Cuts both ways girlie - personal remarks aren't good enough for you eh, it's threats now? Jump if you feel froggy child, or send whatever big stupid ox you're currently manipulating - make sure his insurance is up to date.

Talking shit like that on the internet is the sure sign of a real twit.

I’m also REAL sure that if any REAL man heard you talking like that he’d offer to help, not they seem to need it, but just out of righteous indignation for you being such a condescending, pompous asshole.

Now they're victims again, eh, you're really playing both sides of the fence here aren't you? Pretty chickenshit if you ask me.

You really want to join in with the shrill sisters here?

 

[AllardChardon]

If anyone ever called me a bimbo, I would have not liked it, then or now. But then I was playing the part of the smart ass not the dumb ass. Bimbos play their part for a reason.

A blonde petite friend of mine played men like crazy when she put on her little girl bimbo act. She got what she wanted every time. I asked her why she acted stupid when she was really so smart. Because it worked better than anything else she tried. She was a pro. Someday, her looks will fail her, I suppose.

 

[xssve]

Why xssve needs to believe that I hate men, instead of admitting that I'm merely irritated with him-- Well, that's one way to swim the river De Nile, I suppose.

I never said you hated men, on the contrary, from what I glean you are quite popular - it's you who seem to think I hate all women, and have said so repeatedly.

Issues, you do have, otherwise why turn an otherwise civil discussion into this shill fest over a fucking stupid picture?

 

[dr_mabeuse]

But I can speak to the castration thing, at least for me. I think men are afraid of women. I don't know if women appreciate how much of an effect they have on men, how weak you make us and what power you have over us. I don't know if women feel lust with as much physical intensity as men do, as much pain. We're like junkies. So there's that. We're like addicts. We're in your power.

And then there's the thing that you mystify us. All your stuff's on the inside, invisible and hidden. We have to go into you, and what happens when we do? It feels good as hell for a short while and then suddenly we're all shrunken and weak! And what did you do with our beautiful powerful erections? Our feelings of strength and invulnerability? They're gone! Gone! And you're lying there smiling at us like the cat that ate the canary!

Even worse, you're ready for more and we can't even get it up! It turns out you're even stronger than we are!

So this is some scary stuff for the fragile male ego to deal with. We came in feeling like Superman and now we feel like Mickey Mouse. All our power and strength turn out to be good for nothing when we deal with women. We might slink away in shame, but our need will bring us back, and when it does, the same thing will happen again.

Psychologically, this adds up to a kind of castration fear, a basic fear of women.

 

[Sandy_Fox]

Thanks, Foxy, but let me clarify;

I don't think I'm due respect solely because of my sex.

I am equally positive that no woman deserves disrespect solely because of her sex.

"Woman" really doesn't have much to do with it.

I am positive likewise that no man should be judged solely and alone because of his sex. Not all men are assholes and not all assholes are men.

Why xssve needs to believe that I hate men, instead of admitting that I'm merely irritated with him-- Well, that's one way to swim the river De Nile, I suppose.

You are welcome Ms. Omega.

Please allow me to be a little clearer on what I believe.

I believe that ALL men and women are due respect, until they say or do something undeserving of it. You are exactly correct, in my book. It's not a man or a woman thing. It's a human being thing.

 

[Guest]

But I can speak to the castration thing, at least for me. I think men are afraid of women. I don't know if women appreciate how much of an effect they have on men, how weak you make us and what power you have over us. I don't know if women feel lust with as much physical intensity as men do, as much pain. We're like junkies. So there's that. We're like addicts. We're in your power.

And then there's the thing that you mystify us. All your stuff's on the inside, invisible and hidden. We have to go into you, and what happens when we do? It feels good as hell for a short while and then suddenly we're all shrunken and weak! And what did you do with our beautiful powerful erections? Our feelings of strength and invulnerability? They're gone! Gone! And you're lying there smiling at us like the cat that ate the canary!

Even worse, you're ready for more and we can't even get it up! It turns out you're even stronger than we are!

So this is some scary stuff for the fragile male ego to deal with. We came in feeling like Superman and now we feel like Mickey Mouse. All our power and strength turn out to be good for nothing when we deal with women. We might slink away in shame, but our need will bring us back, and when it does, the same thing will happen again.

Psychologically, this adds up to a kind of castration fear, a basic fear of women.

Cat that ate the canary?

Properly done, we can't remember which side is up!

 

[xssve]

If anyone ever called me a bimbo, I would have not liked it, then or now. But then I was playing the part of the smart ass not the dumb ass. Bimbos play their part for a reason.

A blonde petite friend of mine played men like crazy when she put on her little girl bimbo act. She got what she wanted every time. I asked her why she acted stupid when she was really so smart. Because it worked better than anything else she tried. She was a pro. Someday, her looks will fail her, I suppose.

My ex - I fell for it, and she's always got somebody on the hook.

 

[Stella_Omega]

I never said you hated men, but issues, from what I glean you are quite popular in fact - it's you who seem to think I hate all women, and have said so repeatedly.

Issues, you do have, otherwise why turn an otherwise civil discussion into this shill fest over a fucking stupid picture?

I never complained to you about that picture as a matter of fact, but several other women did. I explained how firefox could get rid of unwanted images on a person's browser screen. Several women thanked me for the info.

I did say that the image expressed a hateful view of women. It does, in my opinion. And when you changed avs and asked for opinions, I said I was okay with that one, and I contrasted its message with the other.

 

[Sandy_Fox]

But I can speak to the castration thing, at least for me. I think men are afraid of women. I don't know if women appreciate how much of an effect they have on men, how weak you make us and what power you have over us. I don't know if women feel lust with as much physical intensity as men do, as much pain. We're like junkies. So there's that. We're like addicts. We're in your power.

And then there's the thing that you mystify us. All your stuff's on the inside, invisible and hidden. We have to go into you, and what happens when we do? It feels good as hell for a short while and then suddenly we're all shrunken and weak! And what did you do with our beautiful powerful erections? Our feelings of strength and invulnerability? They're gone! Gone! And you're lying there smiling at us like the cat that ate the canary!

Even worse, you're ready for more and we can't even get it up! It turns out you're even stronger than we are!

So this is some scary stuff for the fragile male ego to deal with. We came in feeling like Superman and now we feel like Mickey Mouse. All our power and strength turn out to be good for nothing when we deal with women. We might slink away in shame, but our need will bring us back, and when it does, the same thing will happen again.

Psychologically, this adds up to a kind of castration fear, a basic fear of women.

Fear? Nah! Respect? Hell yeah. How can it be scary when you are with a beautiful woman who you admire and respect?

 

[xssve]

I never complained to you about that picture as a matter of fact, but several other women did. I explained how firefox could get rid of unwanted images on a person's browser screen. Several women thanked me for the info.

I did say that the image expressed a hateful view of women. It does, in my opinion. And when you changed avs and asked for opinions, I said I was okay with that one, and I contrasted its message with the other.

It still started over the picture - "I did say that the image expressed a hateful view of women" - that isn't complaining?

And what pisses me off about that is that you immediately started making accusations and personal remarks without bothering to ask me what it was about, just started making assumptions and calling me a misogynist.

Well fuck you, you don't know me - I have reasons to hate women, but I don't; call me stupid, but I let everybody dig their own fucking hole, and you dug your own.

 

[voluptuary_manque]

Fear? Nah! Respect? Hell yeah. How can it be scary when you are with a beautiful woman who you admire and respect?

Amen, SGM. Picasso was afraid of women. That's why he mistreated the one's he seduced and made such ugly paintings of them. I never deliberately paint someone ugly and refuse to mistreat anyone unless they absolutely have it coming.

 

[Sandy_Fox]

It still started over the picture - "I did say that the image expressed a hateful view of women" - that isn't complaining?

And what pisses me off about that is that you immediately started making accusations and personal remarks without bothering to ask me what it was about, just started making assumptions and calling me a misogynist.

Well fuck you, you don't know me - I have reasons to hate women, but I don't; call me stupid, but I let everybody dig their own fucking hole, and you dug your own.

You're stupid!
(thanks for asking!)

 

[Stella_Omega]

But I can speak to the castration thing, at least for me.

I think men are afraid of women. I don't know if women appreciate how much of an effect they have on men, how weak you make us and what power you have over us. I don't know if women feel lust with as much physical intensity as men do, as much pain. We're like junkies. So there's that. We're like addicts. We're in your power.

And then there's the thing that you mystify us. All your stuff's on the inside, invisible and hidden. We have to go into you, and what happens when we do? It feels good as hell for a short while and then suddenly we're all shrunken and weak! And what did you do with our beautiful powerful erections? Our feelings of strength and invulnerability? They're gone! Gone! And you're lying there smiling at us like the cat that ate the canary!

Even worse, you're ready for more and we can't even get it up! It turns out you're even stronger than we are!

So this is some scary stuff for the fragile male ego to deal with. We came in feeling like Superman and now we feel like Mickey Mouse. All our power and strength turn out to be good for nothing when we deal with women. We might slink away in shame, but our need will bring us back, and when it does, the same thing will happen again.

Psychologically, this adds up to a kind of castration fear, a basic fear of women.

Oh, well Doc...
From my side of the fence? Men have wonderfully strong bodies that can effortlessly do things mine can't. They can go outside topless without fear of blowing some guy's mind. When a young man wants to take machine shop in highschool, no one tells him he's too little and skinny and a cute thing like him shouldn't risk his pretty face-- likewise surfing, and football.

Men have these terrific penises that can be mostly relied on to give them pleasure. Unlike a clit, which can sort of wander off in the middle of things, a penis tells you when you're doing it right. you rub it and there's an undeniable, highly visible reaction-- AND they get a back-end hole TOO, if they feel like playing that way. They get to poke or be poked. I can get my whole fist into a pussy-- I KNOW what I would be feeling if my wrist were erectile tissue. And I don't get to feel that.

Guys can be completely selfish and shove themselves into any hole and rub for a minute. Women have to rely on something or someone else. it's damn hard for a woman to fuck selfishly, she has to hope her partner gets it going for her.

Guys don't have to fake orgasms and then go home and finish off because the guy they were with doesn't seem to care about finding a g spot. Guys don't have to lie about it, because it's damn hard to lie about an ejaculation that didn't happen. If a guy is satisfied, his partner will have clear proof.

I know that men, in fact do have sexual misfires. Just wanted to offer you another POV.

 

[xssve]

I'm sure the Doc is speaking in the abstract, not from personal experience, but I have an Eighteenth century Victorian Novel where the Female dominant expresses exactly the same sentiment, almost word for word - again, are we playing pretend, and saying that no real woman would use a mans pride her advantage?

Bullshit, the subject is Shame and Humiliation, not kissy kissy coo coo.

 

[cloudy]

Note the level of conversation here: - I bet cloudy really strained her alleged Lit degree with all those big words - or maybe she just gave the prof a blowjob.

Stella at least makes an argument before descending into personal invective, whereas with Cloudy, my only satisfaction is that I can't actually hear her voice which I'm sure has all the soothing ambiance of fingernails across a Blackboard.

That's two degrees, sweets. And I give a great blowjob (I've been told), but I'm also blessed with a genius-level IQ, thanks to my father, so...nope, all I had to do was the same thing you'd have had to do in the same classes.

Oh, I get it! You had to give blowjobs to pass. Bless your heart.

 

[Stella_Omega]

I'm sure the Doc is speaking in the abstract, not from personal experience, but I have an Eighteenth century Victorian Novel where the Female dominant expresses exactly the same sentiment, almost word for word - again, are we playing pretend, and saying that no real woman would use a mans her advantage?

She's a character in a novel. Who's the author?
...wait a minute, wasn't Victoria nineteenth century?

 

[xssve]

That's two degrees, sweets. And I give a great blowjob (I've been told), but I'm also blessed with a genius-level IQ, thanks to my father, so...nope, all I had to do was the same thing you'd have had to do in the same classes.

Oh, I get it! You had to give blowjobs to pass. Bless your heart.

We've moved on sweets.

She's a character in a novel. Who's the author?
...wait a minute, wasn't Victoria nineteenth century?

Yes, you are correct, Ninteenth.

 

[Stella_Omega]

We've moved on sweets.

Yes, you are correct, Ninteenth.

Who's the author?

 

[xssve]

Anonymous.

 

[xssve]

Heh, maybe it was the Doc...

 

[Stella_Omega]

Anonymous.

A highly respected authority.