Sexism on the board

[Calamity Jane]

I have noticed more sexist statements on this board lately. Almost all of them directed at men. I'm pretty sure that if the guys were making comments directed at women that were even similar to the ones directed at men, 'we' would be irate.

So what's up? Why do we seem to think it's ok to generalize about men's attitudes, and to make insulting comments about their gender?

 

[nasty]

Because, we have balls. WE can take it.

 

[pabloback]

another example of the inequalities of political correctness

 

[nasty]

Was that towards me? If so, It was a joke.

 

[Renegade]

Yeah! Bunch of bitches. *ducks*

 

[Angel]

I'm sorry, I didn't realize being politically correct was required to post here.

 

[pabloback]

wasnt directed at anyone, if it raised a laugh it was a bonus
i HATE the whole concept of political correctness. why is it ok to say somebody is "differently abled" and not say they are handicapped or disabled ? the words change but the meanings stay the same

 

[Fly_On_Wall]

pagancowgirl I've noticed that over the years in society in general (especialy in comedians) some things are okay but the oposit is bad.

if a female comic has her intire bit about guys being dumb and lazy it's funny. but if a male comic makes a female joke it's laughed at for the most part, now if he fallows up with a second he is being rude.
same goes for race and religions.. some things are just accepted while others aren't.
Sexual harrasment too, if a female boss harrases a male employee and he trys to do something about it... it's eather not publicly known or not even fallowed through in court.
I remeber a few years back 28 men at Jenny Craig were sueing for sexual harrasment, the boss said "what men can dish it out but they can't take it?" she eather wone the case or it was thrown out of court i forget which. now had that been 28 women sueing who do you think would have wone?

Me personaly I just pass it by when i hear a sexist remark, weather it hurts me or not, not just cause i'm a guy but because i don't like makeing a scean.

 

[Lost Cause]

Females love to say males are control freaks. Who "nest builds" in a relationship? Who says what friends you can have? Who tells you what you can wear? Who throws away stuff you have collected before the relationship. Who decides when to get new furniture? Who decides they need a bigger house? Who decides that you can't have football parties anymore? Who decides they don't want to have the freaky sex they gave freely before the relationship? Who decides they are leaving to "find" themselves? Who cheats, want's a divorce, and forces you by law to pay for her and her boyfriend's lifestyle via child support without accounting for money spent towards the child??? These examples are all real-life occurances to people I know.
Generalization works both ways.
Live, Love, and Laugh!

 

[Cheyenne]

Now here's a switch! I was all ready for the thread to be another whiny "men don't treat women fairly" kind of threads. I was going to jump right in and tell the women to suck it up and be strong. I'm really surprised to see the thread was started by a woman who is defending the men of the board against the women here. Hmmmmm. I'll have to think about that one.

 

[Laurel]

Whenever we get into a discussion that begins "Women say they want this, then they do that...", I have to roll my eyes. As a card-carrying female, I have never approved anyone to speak on my behalf. The second we try to approach sexism with "All men do this..." or "All women want this...", we are missing the point. Just MHO. When we see someone making a sexist statement, we should address them specifically rather than attribute the attitudes of one person to an entire sex. This is not a slam on PCG, as she started a good thread.

 

[Calamity Jane]

Females love to say males are control freaks. Who "nest builds" in a relationship? Who says what friends you can have? Who tells you what you can wear? Who throws away stuff you have collected before the relationship. Who decides when to get new furniture? Who decides they need a bigger house? Who decides that you can't have football parties anymore? Who decides they don't want to have the freaky sex they gave freely before the relationship?

My husband.

 

[Svedish_Chef]

As a card-carrying female, I have never approved anyone to speak on my behalf.

Please dont tell me it's visa... cause I got two of them

 

[Laurel]

Please dont tell me it's visa... cause I got two of them

Nope, it's a Diner's Club.


Actually, the only place I've ever seen a Diner's Club is as a fake insert when you buy a wallet. Do people really carry Diner's Club cards, or is it some made-up thing? Just wondering.

 

[pabloback]

i would never dine in a club that would have me as a member
groucho , you got that one right

 

[Lady_Kit]

another pleasant surprise

I think it's wonderful that so many women seem to share the view that there is a current of male bashing running through our society. Its terrible the things that a woman can get away with if she's talking to, or about, men. One would think that women would recognize discrimination when they saw it.

There's a Card?? Is there a test too? I'm no good at tests. What if I fail?



Kit

 

[Saturn Return]

I feel that in here..on the whole most people are simply personified by their typed words more than by their gender..and indeed men will say “fuck you” to a woman just as easily as they could/would a man.

Which I think is very cool.

I do think women on the whole are more apt to say the exact negative things to men in real life.

Looking at the many threads..I’ve never heard a man say any of the things they type in here..to a woman.

But I have heard women say damn near the same things to men in RL.

Very interesting…

Meanwhile bashing men?
Ahh..why would any of us want to do that when men are just so much fun to be around?

 

[erosman]

male bashing at the high school level

This reminds me of what my son claims to experience at school. He's a bit of a conservative, intelligent gentleman and in his leadership positions he really locks horns with some strong, female personalities. I'm amazed at the episodes where the young ladies - using profanity - berate him for his 'stupid male' opinion. Granted, there are a lot of high school age guys that encourage this stereotyping, but I think there is a rise in the acceptance of public male bashing - even among the faculty of schools. I'm afaid for him though that he's beginning to stereotype females as "controlling bitches".
We've had some great discussion on the topic. Trying to convince him that bashing is something a person, whether male or female, does probably in response to their own insecurities is tough when his daily experience is so vivd. Maybe it tends to change with maturity?

 

[Desert Amazon]

 

[lavender]

 

[Desert Amazon]

 

[lavender]

 

[fantac64]

nasty comments

It's been getting worse lately for some reason. We aren't stupid, although I'm sure some are, we're not insensitive just because we're male, some work harder at it than others, and we're not sexist, any more than women are.

 

[KillerMuffin]

I've found that when men or women begin bashing the other side it's because that man or woman expectations for the behavior in their own opposite gender didn't come to fruition. This happens a lot over the holiday season. Particularly in regards to women's expectations for their males who never behave like they're "supposed" to.

When things don't go the way we want them to it's easy to put the blame on the other side who didn't behave in a certain way. If only he'd helped me clean up after the dinner, I could have watched TV with him. He watched the game and never wanted an elaborate feast in the first place. That sort of thing.

It's the grown-ups version of childishness.

Well, enough Muffy pontification. I have a card, but it's got his name on it. I have one with my name on it, too, but I've got his because he has trouble with "impulse spending." If he wants the thing, he can have it, he just has to come all the way home to get his card first. By then, he can't figure out why he wanted to spend the money on whatever it was in the first place.

 

[erosman]

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Originally posted by lavender


Men are merely pawns in life's game of Chess.
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response by Desert Amazon

Okay, I saw this quote about pawns at this chess site (in an Endgame reference):

Every pawn is a potential Queen. - Mason

So men are pawns who aspire to be Queens?

How true both of you are!!
Sometimes we guys can be so pathetic...occasionally we live up to our aspirations...it's not easy being a pawn...LOL.

and...from the pawn crushing KillerMuffin:

I have a card, but it's got his name on it. I have one with my name on it, too, but I've got his because he has trouble with "impulse spending." If he wants the thing, he can have it, he just has to come all the way home to get his card first. By then, he can't figure out why he wanted to spend the money on whatever it was in the first place.

LMAO! That is hilarious!...but all to true.