Second rule for Dom/mes- Be Humble

A Desert Rose

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2. Be humble. You may be God's/Goddess' gift to the world, but no one needs to hear it or wants to hear it. You will have ample opportunities to show how good you are - and plenty of opportunities to make a fool of yourself. No matter what you claim, the "real you" will show through in a scene. Don't set yourself up for a failure by developing expectations that you know you can never reach.

Disclaimer: This was taken from a D/s website that Rose found recently. These are NOT Rose's opinions, and Rose did not write or edit these "Rules." Rose has posted this thread in the interest of creating a possible lively debate on this topic.


Rose takes credit for the following opinion: ~~~~~Being humble. I admit to not a lot of experience with Doms. But I can pick out a bore from 100 paces. A man who is not humble, is a bore to me.

Humble does not mean weak or vulnerable. Nor does it mean lack of ego.

Care to discuss this?

Rose:heart:
 
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A Desert Rose said:
~~~~~Being humble. I admit to not a lot of experience with Doms. But I can pick out a bore from 100 paces. A man who is not humble, is a bore to me.

Humble does not mean weak or vulnerable. Nor does it mean lack of ego.

Care to discuss this?

Rose:heart:

Damn,...I guess I fail this test miserably, (sniffle),...honestly,...I don't know anyone who could say I was *humble*. Caring,...yes, patient,...yes, humble,...not in THIS lifetime.

(Oh well,...maybe next trip around)-*shrugs*:rose:
 
I don't know if Tony Soprano is humble, though. Is he?

:confused:
 
Whaddaya think?

Sandia said:
I don't know if Tony Soprano is humble, though. Is he?

:confused:

Confused here too. I think I need to think on that question, Sandia.

Rose:heart:
 
I don't know about Tony....but it strikes me as odd for someone to be telling Me to be humble.



Sandia said:
I don't know if Tony Soprano is humble, though. Is he?

:confused:
 
Lancecastor said:
I don't know about Tony....but it strikes me as odd for someone to be telling Me to be humble.




Excuse me? Who is telling YOU to be ANYTHING?

This is a topic I basically took from another D/s site because I thought it might be interesting conversation.

Rose:heart:
 
Sandia said:
Uhm.. I'm totally confused.

You and me both. The last person I would imagine being provoked is me..... So maybe I am missing something.

Usually I get the humor.

Rose:heart:
 
A Desert Rose said:


Excuse me? Who is telling YOU to be ANYTHING?

"Second rule for Dom/mes- Be Humble
2. Be humble. You may be God's/Goddess' gift to the world, but no one needs to hear it or wants to hear it."

The material you've used is written (in my view) in a preachy style.....but keep in mind that I'm very hard to "tell" or "teach" anything to.

I'm really quite headstrong, bullheaded, pigheaded, stubborn, etc.

And I'm not much for Rules.

So....I find the concept ruffles me a bit, and expressed that, that's all.

It's certainly no reflection on You, Rose....it just reflects on Me and how I feel.

:)
L
 
Lancecastor said:

It's certainly no reflection on You, Rose....it just reflects on Me and how I feel.

:)
L

Thank you. I knew it had to be something like that.

Rose:heart:
 
A Desert Rose said:


You and me both. The last person I would imagine being provoked is me..... So maybe I am missing something.

Usually I get the humor.

Rose:heart:

This is just my opinion.

ADR, You said for Doms to be humble. if Lance believes he is a Dom, then he is saying you told him to be humble (as if that is possible). I know as a woman I am not humble. If I have been humble I would have been dead by now. Sometimes humility is just an excuse for others to fuck with you.

Don't tell me the paranoia disease has caught up with you too?

Say it isn't so!

Eb
 
Ebonyfire said:


This is just my opinion.

ADR, You said for Doms to be humble. if Lance believes he is a Dom, then he is saying you told him to be humble (as if that is possible). I know as a woman I am not humble. If I have been humble I would have been dead by now. Sometimes humility is just an excuse for others to fuck with you.

Don't tell me the paranoia disease has caught up with you too?

Say it isn't so!

Eb

It's not so LOL... Let me clarify, ok? I took these "Rules" from another site that pertains to D/s lifestyles. I was in error not to clarify that these are not neccessarily MY opinions. (There is that dreaded double negative again.) I thought it would be interesting to post and create a dialoge, that's all.

I would never presume to tell ANYONE how to behave, especially Lance, as you and he well know. :)

No one has to agree with the premise of this thread, in fact it makes it more interesting when it is disagreed with. I am sure that I do not agree with it all. I am just trying to create an interesting discussion.

I should have clarified that I did not write the "Rules" and that I do not neccessarily agree with them. I will amend the thread to reflect that.

Thanks Eb,
Rose:heart:
 
A Desert Rose said:
2. Be humble. You may be God's/Goddess' gift to the world, but no one needs to hear it or wants to hear it. You will have ample opportunities to show how good you are - and plenty of opportunities to make a fool of yourself. No matter what you claim, the "real you" will show through in a scene. Don't set yourself up for a failure by developing expectations that you know you can never reach.

Disclaimer: This was taken from a D/s website that Rose found recently. These are NOT Rose's opinions, and Rose did not write or edit these "Rules." Rose has posted this thread in the interest of creating a possible lively debate on this topic.


Rose takes credit for the following opinion: ~~~~~Being humble. I admit to not a lot of experience with Doms. But I can pick out a bore from 100 paces. A man who is not humble, is a bore to me.

Humble does not mean weak or vulnerable. Nor does it mean lack of ego.

Care to discuss this?

Rose:heart:

I have never thought of Myself as being humble yet I do not let My ego dictate to My common sense or empathy. I have never felt the need to kiss My own ass nor have I enjoyed having My ass kissed with out specifically directing the event.
 
Originally posted by A Desert Rose - acknowledging it is not her personal opinion
2. Be humble. You may be God's/Goddess' gift to the world, but no one needs to hear it or wants to hear it. You will have ample opportunities to show how good you are - and plenty of opportunities to make a fool of yourself. No matter what you claim, the "real you" will show through in a scene. Don't set yourself up for a failure by developing expectations that you know you can never reach.

Now, I am not really sure if I qualify to be nitty-gritty about wordings, English not being my native language, I shall spout my thoughts anyway :)

Humble just doesn't seem right in this context. Even though I do agree with what I think is the basic line of this "rule", just the word "humble" irks me.

In my perception a Dominant should be in clear knowledge of his/her position in life, their abilities and their limits. I do see Dominants as strong charactered, firmly based and self-centred persons who by this use of control over themselves first and foremost aquire the ability to control others.

That said, if I am feeling secure, self-assured and serene in my ways, why would I feel any neet to "toot my horn" so to speak? If I have a realistic picture of me and where I stand I will know that maybe if I am very lucky I am the Universe for one special person - but sure not the world.

To come to a conclusion: I do agree that a Dominant should have a realistic assessment of their abilities and theitr place in the world and act accordingly - so I would rephrase that above rule from:

2. Be humble.
to
2. Be realistic in assessing and presenting yourself

Humility is a trait that all humans should possess, but not for the reason of being humble per se, but for the gathering of the knowledge of who and what they really are.

On a lighter note: I just try and picture a scene with a "humble" Dominant, kneeling and carefully asking if it were the pleasure of the submissive to now be flogged or spanked or tied up ... cute*weg*
 
Re: Re: Second rule for Dom/mes- Be Humble

Shadowsdream said:
... nor have I enjoyed having My ass kissed with out specifically directing the event.

I love this post, Ma'am.

Rose:heart:
 
Re: Re: Second rule for Dom/mes- Be Humble

Hecate said:

Humble just doesn't seem right in this context. Even though I do agree with what I think is the basic line of this "rule", just the word "humble" irks me.

2. Be humble.
to
2. Be realistic in assessing and presenting yourself

Well stated. I enjoy that this topic does not resonate with many of you who are posting.

Debate and disagreement can be a good thing.

Gods! can a Roman senate long debate......
John Addison

Rose:heart:
 
Re: Re: Second rule for Dom/mes- Be Humble

Hecate said:



Humble just doesn't seem right in this context. Even though I do agree with what I think is the basic line of this "rule", just the word "humble" irks me.

In my perception a Dominant should be in clear knowledge of his/her position in life, their abilities and their limits. I do see Dominants as strong charactered, firmly based and self-centred persons who by this use of control over themselves first and foremost aquire the ability to control others.


To come to a conclusion: I do agree that a Dominant should have a realistic assessment of their abilities and theitr place in the world and act accordingly - so I would rephrase that above rule from:

2. Be humble.
to
2. Be realistic in assessing and presenting yourself

Humility is a trait that all humans should possess, but not for the reason of being humble per se, but for the gathering of the knowledge of who and what they really are.


Well written Hecate. My-Sir isn't what I consider humble, nor do I wish for HIM to be. I find HIS confidence reassuring in the fact that HE knows what is expected of me at any given time. If HE was not confident then I wouldn't be able to submit to HIM as I do.


-kym- humbly submitting to MY-Sir's control:heart:
 
A Desert Rose said:


It's not so LOL... Let me clarify, ok? I took these "Rules" from another site that pertains to D/s lifestyles. I was in error not to clarify that these are not neccessarily MY opinions. (There is that dreaded double negative again.) I thought it would be interesting to post and create a dialoge, that's all.

I would never presume to tell ANYONE how to behave, especially Lance, as you and he well know. :)

No one has to agree with the premise of this thread, in fact it makes it more interesting when it is disagreed with. I am sure that I do not agree with it all. I am just trying to create an interesting discussion.

I should have clarified that I did not write the "Rules" and that I do not neccessarily agree with them. I will amend the thread to reflect that.

Thanks Eb,
Rose:heart:

Ohhhh,
I got it now. Thanks for the clarification, Rose

Eb
 
My "Humble" 2 cents

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I belive humble here to mean, "I do not know everything, and will strive to always improve"

To belive that you are all knowing, is to shut oneself off from ideas and knowlege from those around you.
 
Re: My "Humble" 2 cents

MrChips said:
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I belive humble here to mean, "I do not know everything, and will strive to always improve"

To belive that you are all knowing, is to shut oneself off from ideas and knowlege from those around you.

I agree, completely. Everyone can learn more (please refer to my new thread- Open at your own risk) and should, regardless of status, i.e. Dom/me or sub.

Thank you for your post.

Rose:heart:
 
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