Rightwing Group Offers Students $100 to Spy on Professors

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Rightwing Group Offers Students $100 to Spy on Professors
By Dan Glaister
The Guardian

Thursday 19 January 2006

It is the sort of invitation any poverty-stricken student would find hard to resist. "Do you have a professor who just can't stop talking about President Bush, about the war in Iraq, about the Republican party, or any other ideological issue that has nothing to do with the class subject matter? If you help ...
expose the professor, we'll pay you for your work."

For full notes, a tape recording and a copy of all teaching materials, students at the University of California Los Angeles are being offered $100 (£57) - the tape recorder is provided free of charge - by an alumni group.

Lecture notes without a tape recording net $50, and even non-attendance at the class while providing copies of the teaching materials is worth $10.

But the initiative has prompted concerns that the group, the brainchild of a former leader of the college's Republicans, is a witch-hunt. Several targeted professors have complained, figures associated with the group have distanced themselves from the project and the college is studying whether the sale of notes infringes copyright and contravenes regulations.

The Bruin Alumni Association's single registered member is Andrew Jones, a 24-year-old former student who gained some notoriety while at the university for staging an "affirmative action bake sale" at which ethnic minority students were offered discounts on pastries.

His latest project has academics worrying about moves by rightwing groups to counter what they perceive to be a leftist bias at many colleges.

The group's website, uclaprofs.com, lists 31 professors whose classes it considers worthy of scrutiny. The professors teach classes in history, African-American studies, politics, and Chicano studies. Their supposed radicalism is indicated on the site by a rating system of black fists. The organization denies on the website that it is conducting a vendetta against those with differing political views. "We are concerned solely with indoctrination, one-sided presentation of ideological controversies and unprofessional classroom behavior, no matter where it falls on the ideological spectrum."


But in another posting, it is clear just where on the spectrum the group thinks the bias might fall.
"One aspect of this radicalization, outlined here, is an unholy alliance between anti-war professors, radical Muslim students and a pliant administration.
Working together, they have made UCLA a major organizing centre for opposition to the war on terror."
 
I hate when they report on idiots like this. They're only doing it for attention, and I do so hate to see them get it.
 
thebullet said:
Rightwing Group Offers Students $100 to Spy on Professors

I am truly shocked by this. I can't see how a student could consider selling out his/her professor for $100. Now, for $250, maybe.
 
I am truly shocked by this. I can't see how a student could consider selling out his/her professor for $100. Now, for $250, maybe.
or an ounce of grass
 
Great, now my British Politics tutor is going to get even MORE of a complex...
 
I get flashbacks of documentaries I've seen about Hungary and North Korea.

"Don't speak bad about our beloved leader!"
"We LOVE the leader!"
"No, we can't say anything negative about the president without going to jail for anti-government conspiracy, but that's what democracy is all about."

And then I remember the protester who wasn't allowed to stand in the front line with his sign "DOWN WITH BUSH", because it was considered too controversial. He was forced by police officers to back off by 50 meters.

Now, does anyone but me see resemblances here?
 
Now, does anyone but me see resemblances here?

Anyone with open eyes realizes that America is being turned into a fascist state. People are for the most part allowed to do what they want, but they better keep their damn noses out of politics! Don't offer an opinion about foreign affairs.

Fascism is the authoritarian marriage of business and state. The US government (executive and legislative branches both) is a group of whores in bed with the people who pay them off. The current administration has learned much about controlling the population from such experts as Joseph Goebels: find something to hate and fear. Keep the country under a barrage of rhetoric about who/what they should be hating and/or fearing.

Accuse all who oppose your agenda of being traitors. Use the secret police and intelligence forces to spy on our own citizens without legal recourse. Allow special interest groups to make policy regarding their own particular interests Let the energy companies make government energy policies. And, by the way, environmental decisions. Allow the drug companies to dominate the FDA.

Find ways to rig elections so that your party can remain in power regardless of how ineptly they perform the act of governence.

Is this a great country or what?
 
I can't imagine running up a student loan of 20K a year to listen to some dick weed professor spout his political views regardless of what angle they were coming from.
 
"A true patriot is always ready to defend his/her country against itself."

Those who don't like the American political system should DEFINITELY not leave the US, they should stay and try to make the country better.
 
rgraham666 said:
Thinking about it.

And I just live next door.
i didn't say i wanted to leave, i like living hear. i don't necessarily like the political situation, i will and do vote in all elections to try and change thing for the better i hope. me spouting trash here doesn't do anything but cause hate and animosity toward me and others. so why waste the energy.
 
I didn't say i wanted to leave, i like living hear. i don't necessarily like the political situation, i will and do vote in all elections to try and change thing for the better i hope. me spouting trash here doesn't do anything but cause hate and animosity toward me and others. so why waste the energy.
Sorry if I offended your sensibilities.

I do all I can to change the situation and that includes occasionally posting some of the more egregious wrongs that are done in this country by the far right.

Speaking out against tyranny and corruption happens to be a right we still have in this country, at least for a while. - though God knows that now students are being bribed to tell on their professors, the IRS is being used against people the government doesn't like, NSA is tapping phone lines in-country - before long, speaking against government policies may be declared a crime. Now it is just a reason to be investigated illegally.

IMHO, it is my duty to cry out against this vile administration and its flunky fellow travelers.

If you don't like it, tough.
 
Hmmmm...

While most College Republican groups are pretty retarded (is there any better way to say "I'm a spoiled rich kid/religious zealot"?), if professors are actually wasting significant class time, I can see where students would get frustrated.

Now, there are many classes where critique of politics is quite relevant. Even in science class, discussion of things like stem cell research, intelligent design, etc.

And a quick pot shot: Republicans will be pissed off about profs being liberal forever. But the fact is, Education makes you liberal. People with advanced degrees OVERWHELMINGLY supported Kerry in the '04 election. Even college grads were far more "blue" than non grads.
 
I do believe professors have the requiste leeeway to carry on discussions in class that are not neccesarily the "meat" of that class. Any history professor, for example could discuss current events in light of historical significance. Likewsiean english professor could legitimately discuss Bush's atrocious speaking and vocabulary.

On the other hand, if your botany professor spends half his class period pontificating on current events, he is out of line. One of the most often heard complaints when I was in school was the complaint of professors they didn't have enough time to meet the outline of the sillybus. American history up to the civil war never made it to even the compromises of the mid 1800's. Us civil war to present usualy ended up glossing over two or three decades to hit the high spots. ren & ref was ren & ren. Greece and rome was greece and greece. My russian history teacher, covered the romanoff dynasty in a week, spending the rest of the class on the USSR post revolution.

I don't agree with puting a bounty onthe head of professors, but I do see where there could be legitimate concern if this group is making a lot of payouts. A professor is allowed to have any opinion he wishes and, within certain parameters, he is free to discuss those views. On the onther hand, I'm paying for an education and he is drawing a good salary to teach me. His position of authority as professor gives him a bully-pulpit and if there are professors who are abusing that to deliver political indoctrination, either pro or con, then they need to be disciplined.

I personally had to drop a history class because the professor couldn't seem to go an entier class period without spending half of it lauding Bill Clinton. Not only did I not like Clinton, but it has fuck all to do with French history pre revolution. I would have gladly turned that professor in, if there had been some mechanism for reporting him. AS it was, I did go to the dean of students to complain and as a consequence, I was given a free drop rather than the withdrawl passing the Prof. wanted to give me. the difference there is, I got a refund on the class for a drop, where I would have been out the cost of three hours otherwise.
 
I agree with Colly. The real issue is whether the person teaching the class is teaching the class. No class should be covering "History of My Personal Political Beliefs."
 
BlackShanglan said:
No class should be covering "History of My Personal Political Beliefs."
Actually some classes are set up that way. For example, the Racism and Sexism class I took in college. I knew what I was getting into and enjoyed the class.
 
RebeccaBrowning said:
I can't imagine running up a student loan of 20K a year to listen to some dick weed professor spout his political views regardless of what angle they were coming from.

That's what a Politics degree is for
 
JamesSD said:
Actually some classes are set up that way. For example, the Racism and Sexism class I took in college. I knew what I was getting into and enjoyed the class.

To clarify, I intended "History of My (the Professor's) Political Beliefs."
 
BlackShanglan said:
To clarify, I intended "History of My (the Professor's) Political Beliefs."
oh, it was the history of her personal and political beliefs. If you've never taken a race/gender theory class I recommend it. Even if you don't agree with the more extreme viewpoints presented, at least it makes you really think about what you do believe.
 
JamesSD said:
oh, it was the history of her personal and political beliefs. If you've never taken a race/gender theory class I recommend it. Even if you don't agree with the more extreme viewpoints presented, at least it makes you really think about what you do believe.

I've taken several. I prefer to hear the beliefs of a wide range of theorists and not just those of a single professor.
 
Let's turn it around.

What would this guy say if a Democrat offered the same deal to spy on professors supporting George Bush.

I'll bet the reaction would be really amusing. :D
 
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