Review: Stories by RedLegoDragon

[DarkSollat]

Today I come to you with the ranking of first cums in @RedLegoDragon 's stories. By a first cum, I understand the scenes when the guy is cumming for the first time during sex, but I consider the whole scene, not only his part (and in 93.75% of cases the girl is cumming as well). I used both tiers (marked with capital letters) and places (marked with numbers); scenes from the same tier are practically interchangable and the exact placing would depend on my mood at the moment.

Please also notice a few things. Firstly, it's fully possible that some further cumming scenes may be better than those specified below. Secondly, I included only story-relevant and longer scenes written from the fucking couple's perspective, so some lacks are expected; also, shorts aren't included. Finally, this is an internal ranking, so it doesn't say anything about how RLD's scenes compare to similar ones from other authors (although it's safe to say, that the best are around B-tier).

After this lengthy introduction, let's finally go with the ranking. ( ) contains the title of the story, while [ ] shows the number of words.

E16 Joelle/Eric (TT) [428] Pretty short scene I didn't even notice the first time I was looking for it. Joelle's orgasms before this one are pretty great, though.
E15 Alexa/Jake (AFC) [381] Generally speaking, every next cum in AFC is better than the last one, so this one must be the weakest. The whole sex scene is better than its conclussion.
E14 Mackenzie/Bryce (WHES1) [642] For such a cum-focused work (at least the first half of it), Bryce's first orgasm is pretty tame. The entire work is fun, but its strength lies elsewhere.

D13 Alexa/Logan (AFC) [560] A solid cum, but would be much hotter if Alexa was cumming together with Logan. I don't have anything against the theme of a man cumming without a womam, but here it just doesn't work well.
D12 Ayesha/Theo (TOC) [672] For such a master cummer, Theo first on-screen orgasm wasn't so great, but it was neverthe less better than the whole fuck (which to this days stays awkward af).
D11 Ayesha/Brad (TOC) [671] Despite Ayesha/Theo orgasm is declared as better among the two, I like Ayesha/Brad scene better. It's a pretty close cut, but this one works better emotionally.

C10 Alexa/Kyle (AFC) [422] The first scene in this ranking I really enjoyed. It's hot and enthusiastic, and incestous theme gives it an extra bit of spice. Could be also a little longer - it's the shortest one ranked.
C9 Sheila/Eric (TT) [1,353] If I would describe my problem with this scene, I would say "infocused" - I don't want two paragraphs describing Sheila's previous experiences or interludes with other characters fucking nearby. Outside of those, it's a very good scene, and also the longest one (but only because of the extra stuff described above).
C8 Dani/Gareth (TaC) [1,134] C tier may be described as the great scenes with a pet peeve - here it's an unnecessary break between Dani's two orgasms. Except for that, all's good.

B7 Erith/Nathan (Cursed) [750] We're getting to the really good stuff, and I'm a little surprised that E/N in cursed is among them. But I really liked rereading this scene for research. Nice that even such a piece of shit as Nathan can fuck good through his orgasm; also, hatefuck is always good.
B6 Erin/Kyle (ASA) [969] The first big male cum RLD had ever written, and he was already great. As the above, I didn't remember it being so good before reread.
B5 Zehra/Logan (GN) [934] Very similar to the above, also containing a cheating girlfriend taking the biggest cum of her life. What puts it slightly ahead is that unlike Kyle and Erin, Logan and Zehra are still fucking when he cums, and I just love this theme.

A4 Sarah/Kyle (ON) [1,0006] Kyle has other first cums on this list, but this one's the best. It's however Sarah who is the main star here, and her milking of Kyle's cock from the bottom should become legendary.
A3 Erin/Peter (GC!) [946] Since I've read ASA, the only thing I wanted for Erin and Peter was them having a happy nerdy life together, and their post-cucking sex scene was the second-best thing. Especially this cum, which is just delicious (the scene, not Peter's load).
A2 Alexa/Theo (AFO) [1,286] This was actually the first scene that made me think "damn, RLD can write male cumming!" Almost perfect in every aspect, from the hot narration to still thrusting cock, to the excessive amount of cum. I'm pretty sure this was the moment Alexa had gotten pregnant.

S1 Alexa/Leona (AFC) [864] What can I say that I hadn't already said before? Alexa & Leona's shared cum scene is one of the three best scenes in erotica I've ever read, and the best male cock cumming scene in existence. I don't believe any other erotica author would be able to match RLD in that department, and it would be incredibly challening for himself to get to this level again (although from everything we know about WHES2, he may do it pretty soon). A true diamond, tbh after this one the ranking should leave tier A empty to show how incredible and out of this world this scene is. Just writing about makes me tingle. Bravo!

And that would be the end of this ranking, which I had a blast creating. Do you agree with it, or do you have different opinion? Would love to hear your thoughts!

Bonus - self promotion. Not so long ago, I've written a cumming scene inspired by Alexa & Leona's shared cum. It's a part of the latest chapter of my Mass Effect Futa story available here -> https://www.literotica.com/s/ch-09-the-reunion . As much convieniently as accidentaly, the pagination here is perfect - sex scene starts at page 2, and the cumming at page 3. PS. In this ranking I'd put it between B and C tier.

 

[DarkSollat]

After first cums ranking, here comes what no one asked for: a ranking of Eroshire marathons! I planned to write it next week but got too impatient, so here it is.

While the rules are the same as previously, I need to make a note. Unlike the last time, this time I'm no so sure about how I ranked those scenes. They're quite long, after all, and there's not only lot of them, but also - be frank - they're quite similar. So the results aren't only about quality, but about the context and how much I was tired at the moment xD

Anyway, let's go! ( ) mark work title and page(s), while [ ] contain number of words.

F18 Sheila/Joelle/Eric (TT p13) [225] To be honest, I shouldn't even include this scene here - it's short and not very marathony. However, it's still a descripiton of how Eric had sex with Joelle and Sheila for hours, so I needed to mention it.

E17 Ayesha/Theo (TOC p25) [569] Very short marathon, maybe because it's the second one included in TOC. Maybe it's because RLD couldn't really put his heart into it - I know he later regretted doing Ayesha/Theo, and it shows here.
E16 Mackenzie/Bryce [WHES1 15] (791) Another marathon that can be descrabed as "it's there". Let's say it's just wasn't Mac and Bryce time to shine yet.

D15 Sarah/Kyle (ON 21) [692] The second marathon of the horny pair. Later on, Erin says that Kyle and Sarah didn't left the room for a week, but it doesn't show here. Overall it's nice though, I also liked more focus put into oral and anal than constant vaginal as in most of them.
D14 Alexa/Theo (AFO 20) [1,914] My biggest downfall on this list. From how great the main scene in AFO is, I expected the same from the marathon but... this is too long! And I don't mean the scene as a whole, but separate paragraphs - each of them is big af, which doesn't sit well with this type of narration.
D13 Erin/Kyle (GC! 12) [704] Erin and Kyle's fuck in GC! is the weirdest scene RLD ever wrote, even more cringe that what happens in Cursed. This isn't terrible marathon, but as the characters don't really enjoy the sex in it, I as a reader also don't.

C12 Dani/Gareth (TaC 16-17) I'm gonna be honest - there's nothing interesting I can say about this scene. It's good and has some nice elements (like description how Dani leaves sweaty marks on the window) but there's nothing overly specific about it.
C11 Zehra/Logan (GN 18-19) [1,880] Second Zehra/Logan marathon, the one in his flat. It begins great: both car blowjob and by-entrance fucking set the great atmosphere, but then it suffers from the same thing as Alexa/Theo - too long paragraphs. The ending when they resume fucking after break is fire though.
C10 Sarah/Kyle (ON 18-19) [1,066 or 1,929] I have a problem with rating this scene, mostly because I have a problem with defining it. Should 'fuck the bed/drawers/wardrobe/wall' be included? Whatever the answer, the best elements of this marathon are at the beginning of it (destruction mentioned above and next the bathroom part), but later it gets pretty average (despite heavy Perils inspiration), so leave it in the middle of the pack.
C9 Erin/Kyle (ASA 19) [1,550] First RLD's marathon written (or just published?) is still going strong. I don't like the whole cucking Peter thing and I'm glad it was removed from Erin's characteristics later, but it's still very good sequence. Also, funny how this is practically the only main marathon being separated from the main scene - depends of personal view it may be a flaw or a strenght.
C8 Ayesha/Brad (TOC 17) [1,030] The kinkiest among RLD's marathons, as a. it takes plece in Ayesha's son's room and b. the whole thing is captured on his camera. Luckily, the scene focuses on the latter, not the former, and the sex is hot, so the whole sequence works great.

B7 Erin/Peter/Kyle (GC! 30) [2,150] Before writing this rating, I expected myself criticizing this scene. After all, marathons should be about people's incredible stamina, and with two men, it's kind of not needed. But the re-read gave me positive sensations, even if just because it's the happy ending for the trio. The only flaw is dialogues which I see as a little cringy.
B6 Erith/Kyle (Cursed 11-12) [905] After the first cum, it's another scene from Cursed I was positively surprised by. This is a lovely, diverse (finally a pussy is properly licked!), and hot marathon, fully deserving a pretty high spot. Seems like I treated the whole work too harsh during an initial read.
B5 Zehra/Logan (GN 17) [749] The biggest surprise on my list. This marathon is short and takes place in two rooms only, but somehow greatly resonated with me. Maybe because I was kind of tired at this point, so short length felt refreshing, or maybe I liked Logan's trifecta - either way it stays in 5th place.
B4 Dani/Gareth (TaC 17-18) [1,126] I must say that RLD cheated with this scene, because the location alone - an office - gives a huge boost to its quality, especially for someone who works in a similar place. I won't let it stop me from rating it high though, because it fully deserves so.

A3 Erin/Peter (GC! 19) [1,008] I must say the same thing here as I said for Peter and Erin's shared cum - I love this couple and wants the best for them. Thus, I really like this marathon of two people who deeply adore each other and can finally fuck each other the way they like the most (even if they didn't know about it before).
A2 Alexa/Mark (AFC 9) [949] What can be better than two people deeply loving each other fucking for hours all over the place? Two people deeply loving each other who are also vile and messed up fucking for hours all over the place! The whole Alexa/Mark sex scene may be a little creepy, but their marathon is a top notch.
A1 Mackenzie/Bryce (WHES1 15-16) [1,166] As promised, Mackenzie and Bryce returns to the ranking and this time in the top spot! What can I say? It's amazing! The pace is great, the locations are plenty, and the transitions are smooth. But what I like the most was adding a little bit of dialogue which worked just great comparing to usual speechless marathons. Great job!

S [intentionally left blank] A word of explanation why the best scene here is A-tier and not S-tier. It's simple - it doesn't stand as much as Leona's cumming among other first cums. S-tier for me isn't just a normal thing, but something reserved for really exceptional work. However, if this wasn't an internal ranking for RLD's stories, marathon from Perils of Rock'n'Roll Decadence would be right here.

And that's all! I've read over 20,000 words divided into 18 scenes to prepare this ranking and even if that was a lot, I'm still proud I did it. Now, we wait for WHES2 and Rachel/Bryce marathon - wonder how they'll relate to sequences described here.

Bonus - self promotion. I invite you also to read my marathon scene which I published here -> https://www.literotica.com/s/youre-insatiable . Especially as at over 3k words, it's longer than any scene presented here (although I'm just bragging - quality matters, not length).

 

[samu7]

I reread Cursed today and this part is giving me whiplash:

He looked confused. What was she on about? This was exactly what everyone in the county had all of the time! Mindless, meaningless sex! What other type was there? Love? No one loved anyone in Eroshire! All the cheating going was proof enough that no one loved their partners! They were all just looking for the big thrill; the next big cock to ride and suck. What was this silly girl going on about? Love?

Isn't this exactly what the stories pre-GC are like? Just sex sex sex sex sex sex. Are we supposed to believe Theo has a 'connection' with all those women he'd been with and vice versa?

Also when it comes to "personality" that Erith says is SO important, what about Kyle, Theo, or even Jake who fucks constantly? Heavy on Kyle, I can't stress this enough. We've established how much of an asshole he is but the point is that no one cares and sleeps with him anyway? Does that mean everyone is an incel like Nathan? So he's right?

I'm sorry but Kyle who kept following Sarah and Erin around propositioning them with sex -- let's face it, it's harassment -- who did not respect women enough to leave them alone and proceeds to blackmail them for sex anyway is now being held up as some feminist hero... I roll my eyes. Sure, he's gone to therapy and is a "good man" (blergh) now but before that when he's still a jerk he has no trouble getting women anyway, so what's the truth? Sounds like Nathan's pretty accurate to me, saying personality matters is just an excuse (when it comes to this fictional universe of Eroshire).

Again, great story but it shouldn't be written by someone who writes the rest of Eroshire stories.

 

[DarkSollat]

I'm sorry but Kyle who kept following Sarah and Erin around propositioning them with sex -- let's face it, it's harassment -- who did not respect women enough to leave them alone and proceeds to blackmail them for sex anyway is now being held up as some feminist hero... I roll my eyes. Sure, he's gone to therapy and is a "good man" (blergh) now but before that when he's still a jerk he has no trouble getting women anyway, so what's the truth?

Why do you hate Kyle's redemption arc so much? Is it so hard to believe that (some) bad people aren't bad because they're bad from nature but from nurture and can actually change?

Isn't this exactly what the stories pre-GC are like? Just sex sex sex sex sex sex. Are we supposed to believe Theo has a 'connection' with all those women he'd been with and vice versa?

Also when it comes to "personality" that Erith says is SO important, what about Kyle, Theo, or even Jake who fucks constantly? Heavy on Kyle, I can't stress this enough. We've established how much of an asshole he is but the point is that no one cares and sleeps with him anyway? Does that mean everyone is an incel like Nathan? So he's right?

I fully believe that RLD can defend himself just right, but gonna provide my perspective anyway. Because persepective is the key here. Erith says that connection matters - it's her perspective, not an universal truth. Theo, Jake, or any other character may think defferently. If you call it hypocrisy on her part, it's even lampshaded in the story.

 

[samu7]

Why do you hate Kyle's redemption arc so much? Is it so hard to believe that (some) bad people aren't bad because they're bad from nature but from nurture and can actually change?

I don't hate how it's written but I hate the content (and execution?). In GC I was genuinely impressed with his redemption, and it satisfies the need for that particular story because it resolves around three people and he did make up for it to the other two leads in that story. But for everything else, I'm not satisfied. There was very little blowback from the other characters that I can't justify how much actually changed.

He's now free from his father's toxic shackles, yay, but how about other people. He's supported (by other characters) now that he's a 'good man' but he also got support when he's an asshole, anyway. I don't know how to explain it perfectly but to be concise, compared to all the pain he caused people, not just the other leads, he had nothing to lose even had he not completed his redemption. Thus I still can't accept how he's now idolized and treated like some savior of feminism.

I fully believe that RLD can defend himself just right, but gonna provide my perspective anyway. Because persepective is the key here. Erith says that connection matters - it's her perspective, not an universal truth. Theo, Jake, or any other character may think defferently. If you call it hypocrisy on her part, it's even lampshaded in the story.

Thank you for this because now I see this story and the subsequent message from Erith's perspective. It is her perspective, but it is also supported by Erin, Beatrice, etc. I think it's dishonest to not admit that the last couple stories had used a certain approach as an integral theme. I don't have complaints about that, but approach like these is gonna invite critique. Kyle was a total fucking creep who faced no repercussion for being such that either way it's gonna be offputting to me (and I think some people) to read his character from this approach.

 

[DarkSollat]

He's supported (by other characters) now that he's a 'good man' but he also got support when he's an asshole, anyway.

I don't fully understand what you mean by support, but I assume you mean he had friends and a line of girls to fuck even when he was an asshole.

In that case, I'd maybe agree with you if we were talking about adult people. But those characters are just kids - high schoolers or early university students. At this age, kids - including girls - are often impressed by bullies. I was bullied in school and some of them were accompanied or even encouraged by girls. Kids are cruel. But they grow out of it, usually.

Also, I don't think Clyde bullying by Kyle was especially bad. He said a few mean things, but nothing what would scar a man for life. He was much worse for Peter, but ASA is full of Early Installment Weirdness.

 

[samu7]

I don't fully understand what you mean by support, but I assume you mean he had friends and a line of girls to fuck even when he was an asshole.

In that case, I'd maybe agree with you if we were talking about adult people. But those characters are just kids - high schoolers or early university students. At this age, kids - including girls - are often impressed by bullies. I was bullied in school and some of them were accompanied or even encouraged by girls. Kids are cruel. But they grow out of it, usually.

Also, I don't think Clyde bullying by Kyle was especially bad. He said a few mean things, but nothing what would scar a man for life. He was much worse for Peter, but ASA is full of Early Installment Weirdness.

Perhaps 'respect' is a better word? When he was an asshole he is not exactly shunned by people around him, worshipped even. I'm not only talking about the children because the adults seem to all let it slide too, teachers, counselors, etc. and didn't he cuck a few woman's husband? Seems like he's respected regardless of changing or not. I guess personality doesn't matter

 

[DarkSollat]

Perhaps 'respect' is a better word? When he was an asshole he is not exactly shunned by people around him, worshipped even. I'm not only talking about the children because the adults seem to all let it slide too, teachers, counselors, etc. and didn't he cuck a few woman's husband? Seems like he's respected regardless of changing or not. I guess personality doesn't matter

Teachers ignoring bullying? Never heard of it. Except I did.

Also, the EU counselor was in fact despising Kyle before he had changed.

And about those wives they in fact just looked for a big cock not striking personality.

 

[samu7]

And about those wives they in fact just looked for a big cock not striking personality.

Right so personality doesn't matter in Eroshire, lol

I guess they meant charm in place of personality. being charming =/= necessarily good personality though

Also, I don't think Clyde bullying by Kyle was especially bad. He said a few mean things, but nothing what would scar a man for life. He was much worse for Peter, but ASA is full of Early Installment Weirdness.

I guess you're right. It's not bad. perhaps I was too harsh on ON's Kyle (and in turn too soft on Clyde?) but then again no one stands up for clyde except sarah. it's disheartening regardless

 

[RedLegoDragon]

This has been a fun read! I'm happy my shitty free porn stories are inspiring such strong emotional reactions in people!

Reading your comments have inspired a few extra scenes for my upcoming re-write of Just Another House Party. Although it's focused on Ali (about time, poor lad!) I can squeeze in some extra lines for Kyle and Erin.

 

[DarkSollat]

A new RLD's story, Wet Hot Eroshire Summer Pt. 02, dropped yesterday, so today, I'm providing my review. As I consider RLD my online buddy, it pains me greatly that I need to say that for me, WHES2 is just mid. Not that it was objectively bad, but cerainly not in my taste.

But it's not like I dislike all of it, because they were things I enjoyed. Everything around the main sex scene was certainly at least good, and sometimes great. A physical fight between Mac (FMC of WHES1) and Rachel (FMC of WHES2) who would fuck Bryce (MMC of both)? Giggled like hell. Standing sex next to the door to Rachel and Charlie's bedroom? Great! Fucking on the stair? Great! Muffled orgasms during both of the above? Same! The main sex scene itself? G... Good. But, it's a part of the main personal theme of the work, which is Rachel's struggling with her real appearance as a homo lycan, i.e. tall *********my with a lot of (head) hair. It was great to read how everyone, and finally herself, accepted her true form, and the utilization of it during sex - through not exactly the most erotic thing for me - was pretty fun as well.

But then comes a thing which I didn't enjoy the most, and which is a huge part of this work. I'm talking about more lore about homo magicus - y'know, succubus (like Erin's grandmother), werewolves (like Rachel), vampires (like Zhu), or dryads (like newly introduced Frankie). WHES2 introduces glam, a kind of natural spell which allows them to conceal their true form under fully human disguise. Initially, I though it would be like in the TV show Grimm or Harry Potter when this alternative form is set to one, and I would be fully ok with this. But then, it turns out that with training, they could just fully alter their apperance, to the point of growing a tail or dick. It turns the concept into something too powerfull. Like, Frankie uses it to change herself into Rachel and Rachel into herself to make the cheating sex easier for Rach - it changes the cheating field too much. There are many example of world breaking powers in fiction, and this is one of them.

What else did I don't like? At the beginning, I was promised a risky backseat sex scene. And although the scene is there, it's doesn't feel like a risky backseat sex scene, because the risk isn't a factor. The narration doesn't include this, focusing instead on Rachel, but her seeing what happens has no impact on anything. Close to the end, in turn, we have a really weird scene when Mac and Rachel find Zhu fucking with Bryce... only to strangle her and have threesome with the guy on their own. It was mean and turned me off, even if ultimately, Zhu accepted this course of action (and masturbated herself to eight orgasms). The threesome itself was also just a quick description, and despite I have nothing against shortathons, this one failed to interest me. The main marathon was fun, but ultimately pretty tame, same as Bryce's first cum (the latter is sadly a footprint of WHES series).

There are also some other scenes I wanted to tackle, but in positive light this time. Double footjob under the table with all characters being aware but not fully aware was fun. The ending scene with three couples having sex in the car during traffic was fun. Charlie knowing about Rachel having sex with Bryce and her knowing about him having sex with Frankie and Mac (this, I didn't anticipate) was fun. All of it combined make me think that WHES assemble would turn into sex-positive group when everyone fucks everyone and everyone is happy about it (maybe with Bryce sharing his power with other guys?), somewhat akin to Erin-centered clique.

To summarize, I think this work falls somewhere between tiers D and C of RLD's work. I didn't fully enjoy it, but also don't think it was the waste of time. As always with art, it comes to personal views and preferences - this one just doesn't fully fit mine.

 

[VerbalAbuse]

One day I'm going to write a sex scene that'll go on for fucking pages.

Your first story (70k words) has a 50k words sex scene. There are published novels shorter than your scene. The entire history of the Roman Empire had been told in less than that.

 

[RedLegoDragon]

Your first story (70k words) has a 50k words sex scene. There are published novels shorter than your scene. The entire history of the Roman Empire had been told in less than that.

True, but ASA had multiple sex scenes in those 50k words. I'm talking about writing something similar to The Perils of Rock n Roll Decadence's main sex scene, which is somewhere around 120k words (feel free to correct me on this, @The_shadow_rising )

 

[VerbalAbuse]

True, but ASA had multiple sex scenes in those 50k words. I'm talking about writing something similar to The Perils of Rock n Roll Decadence's main sex scene, which is somewhere around 120k words (feel free to correct me on this, @The_shadow_rising )

It was only one scene, as I've read it. But, of course, you may take a different view on that.
Still, go ahead and write that 8 pages long ejaculation. I'm sure it will have its readers.

 

[The_shadow_rising]

True, but ASA had multiple sex scenes in those 50k words. I'm talking about writing something similar to The Perils of Rock n Roll Decadence's main sex scene, which is somewhere around 120k words (feel free to correct me on this, @The_shadow_rising )

I have no idea, I remember it in pages rather than words. It was a lot

 

[Durken82]

Quick overview: To make a hot guy Kyle stop tormenting her sweet boyfriend Peter, 19 yo Erin cheats the latter with the former, discovering that he can satisfy her so much better than the guy she loves.

So trite. It competes with black man / white (blonde) woman as the most trite concept here.

I ignore those stories since they have no originality and I've already read a few of them so I know how they'll end.

 

[GlennJenko]

I'm so happy this thread is here. I've had a lot of thoughts around RLD's works for a while, so a space to air them out where the author may see them is great. Yes, comments are a thing, but those are centred around individual stories.

By-ad-large, RLD is a very good writer. The stories are engaging, usually fun and extremely kinky. Though our writing styles are very different, I must say that some of the stuff in the stories either kink, plot or theme wise has inspired me in certain ways in my own writing. RLD's works are well written, though I've noticed sometimes that things could be tightened with an editor. But given in this thread RLD specifies how this is a hobby and all that, I can understand why they'd just like to write without them.

To be a little more focused, I think RLD has an excellent grasp on starting concepts. E.g ASA, AFO and GN are all excellent plots with some interesting characters and dynamics. From the classic (cliche?) boyfriend's bully to the husband/boyfriend's best friend, they're very very hot. I especially like how in AFO the story starts with Alexa already wanting to fuck Theo, while in GN Logan does everything he can to convince himself that he doesn't want to fuck Zehra's brains out (and vice versa).

GN in particular is one of my favourite stories on the site. It has a great set up, you can really feel the attraction and growing tension, and the pay off is wonderful. Which is why I'm sad to say that its sequel massively disappointed me. As I said above, RLD has great concepts, but when taken to sequels I usually find that a whole bunch is retconned to make anything make sense. GN's sequel is no different. Zehra and Logan getting caught is believable, as is potentially the three forming a throuple as the resolution. What I don't find believable, and what doesn't make sense (and what at least one other person has mentioned) is how Zehra convinces Adrian not to leave her. She says she was only interested in Logan because of his friendship with Adrian which is 1) unfair to Logan, and 2) completely retconning what I loved about GN. Zehra makes it abundantly clear that while she loves Adrian, she just reaaalllllyyy wants to fuck Logan too. Again as someone mentioned, there's even that line about Zehra thinking Adrian is the perfect partner while Logan is the perfect lover. Nowhere in there is there any hint of "I'm into this guy cos he's bbfs with my bf."

There's similar problems in the sequel to AFO. I'm meant to believe Mark orchestrated everything in AFO and Kyle knew about it to boot? What? And that Mark is infertile when his inner monologue (i.e he's not saying to anyone but himself) that he'd been to multiple specialists and they all said he was extremely fertile. Was he lying to himself? Was the author lying to us? Part of my disaste can probably be chalked down to not really liking full-on cuck stories and preferring cheating wives, and I do have to agree with earlier praise for the Leona/Alexa scene in AFC. It's just a shame that I didn't really like what was around it.

This is getting longwinded, but to finish I want to touch on the mystical side of RLD's works. In AFO I actually did like the implication that fate just really wanted Theo and Alexa to fuck, and for him to be the father. But in general, it's hard for me to reconcile the GN side of things with, as the author put it once, eldritch sex gods. The writer posited in an author note about where readers drew the line between over the top cum and said sex gods. To me, the answer is simple - the over the top cum doesn't distract from the hotness of the scene or story, where succubi, witches and most recently werewolves absolutely do. I almost think that if I was writing it, I'd make two series - one grounded in "reality" and the other weird and wacky. Because they're both good ideas and the author certainly has the talent for it.

 

[DrPope]

I’m of the considered opinion that the entire Eroshire community belongs in a mass grave …. I don’t know what exactly upsets me about it but it upsets me … it’s like you’re reading it and suddenly realize you’re arguing with a idiot who is going to beat you with experience…. Can’t you do something else to unwind… I hear fly fishing is relaxing

 

[DarkSollat]

GN's sequel is no different. Zehra and Logan getting caught is believable, as is potentially the three forming a throuple as the resolution. What I don't find believable, and what doesn't make sense (and what at least one other person has mentioned) is how Zehra convinces Adrian not to leave her. She says she was only interested in Logan because of his friendship with Adrian which is 1) unfair to Logan, and 2) completely retconning what I loved about GN. Zehra makes it abundantly clear that while she loves Adrian, she just reaaalllllyyy wants to fuck Logan too. Again as someone mentioned, there's even that line about Zehra thinking Adrian is the perfect partner while Logan is the perfect lover. Nowhere in there is there any hint of "I'm into this guy cos he's bbfs with my bf."

I'm self appointed Eroshire ambassador, and even I think it was stupid as fuck. I think it was a matter of RLD transitioning from cheating to sexual openess, and sometimes it was awkward.

 

[Durken82]

suddenly realize you’re arguing with a idiot who is going to beat you with experience

Are you my ex roommate? He loved saying this.