Redistricting Wars

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There are threads on Alabama and maybe Ohio, but they seem to be happening across the country. And the 'Pubs are generally losing so far.

A judge rules against a Republican challenge of a congressional redistricting map in New Mexico

A New Mexico state judge has ruled against a Republican Party challenge of new congressional boundaries approved by Democrats that divvied up a politically conservative oil-producing region.

Louisiana Republicans are in court to fight efforts to establish new Black congressional district

Voting rights advocates are locked in a court fight with Louisiana’s top Republicans over whether the state must follow Alabama’s court-ordered path in drawing a new, Black-majority congressional district.
 
Gerrymandering may be more of a habit now than a necessity. Winners learn how to win away games. With both parties shifting their demographics and values, winning candidates find votes in new and possibly random locations.
 
One wonders if the reason conservatives are "losing" isn't because their redistricting maps are unlawful, but because the courts are liberal.
 
Every state should bar officials in power from making districts. It should be an independent commission which draw lines based on the region and the population.

For example, no district near Cleveland would be the same district by Columbus in Ohio.....like Gym Jordan's district
 
There are threads on Alabama and maybe Ohio, but they seem to be happening across the country. And the 'Pubs are generally losing so far.

A judge rules against a Republican challenge of a congressional redistricting map in New Mexico

A New Mexico state judge has ruled against a Republican Party challenge of new congressional boundaries approved by Democrats that divvied up a politically conservative oil-producing region.
New Mexico Judge Fred Van Soelen upheld the state's congressional map after Republicans alleged the map was significantly gerrymandered.

The judge ruled that the map was created in a manner that weakened GOP voting power but said it did not meet the necessary legal standard of an "egregious" gerrymander, according to the Associated Press.
:cool:
 
Michigan has an independent commission. Dems gained some ground. Some black voters are still pissed because the commission's solution is more blending of urban and suburban districts with fewer black majority districts. The lawsuit drags on and the commissioners that thought they would be done years ago still need a budget to hire lawyers.
https://www.bridgemi.com/michigan-g...s-dilute-power-black-voters-trial-will-decide
The rules should be simple: population and proximity.
 
Having a 4-1 Republican advantage over Democrats wasn't enough for the MAGAts.
The MAGAts wanted it all.
Pigs get fed, hogs get slaughtered.
 
Wisconsin Supreme Court asked to draw new legislative boundaries over Republican objections

Democratic voters hoping to undo Republican-drawn Wisconsin legislative district maps are telling the liberal-controlled state Supreme Court that it should draw new maps by March.
This was to be the crowning achievement of the Wisc Republican party until a "librul' Supreme Court justice was elected, at which time it became their worst-case-scenario. They asked her to recuse herself from the upcoming Supreme Court decision about the case (because they knew it would then be a tie, and no redistricting would happen). Their reasoning was paper-thin: the candidate (now Justice) had "commented" on the case on the campaign trail. She declined to recuse, the Repubs attempted an end-around recall prior to her being sworn in (!!!) and failed.

The Wisconsin Republican Party is fucked.
 
One wonders if the reason conservatives are "losing" isn't because their redistricting maps are unlawful, but because the courts are liberal.
6-3 on the SC, you are saying that is a liberal split there?

Do you get tired of being wrong all the time? Or does your medication not let you see it? Feel it?
 
Prairie states may need a completely different way to determine representation as nomadic herding replaces settled farming. Other states may have other reasons to make more stable districts. The end of suburban sprawl will put more division between urban and rural districts.
 
At the same time we have rulings against it in several states, North Carolina somehow thinks they can do it:


North Carolina Republicans Approve House Map That Flips at Least Three Seats

www.nytimes.com.ico
The New York Times|16 hours ago
The gerrymandered congressional map, made possible by a new G.O.P. majority on the state Supreme Court, ensures Republican dominance in a closely divided state.
 
At the same time we have rulings against it in several states, North Carolina somehow thinks they can do it:


North Carolina Republicans Approve House Map That Flips at Least Three Seats

www.nytimes.com.ico
The New York Times|16 hours ago
The gerrymandered congressional map, made possible by a new G.O.P. majority on the state Supreme Court, ensures Republican dominance in a closely divided state.
Well, of course they think they can. They've been getting away with it there for quite some time already and they aren't even shy about it.
 
The Democratic gerrymanders of 2021-2022

Democrats, meanwhile, really went to town with gerrymanders of their own in states they controlled:

  • In New York and Illinois, Democrats made big gains. In each state, they erased four Republican-leaning districts and created three Democratic-leaning ones (each state lost a seat due to population decline). New York’s new map will have 22 of 26 districts leaning to the left of the national average, and Illinois will have 14 of 17 tilted to the left. One potential hiccup for Democrats is that a lower court judge struck down the New York map, but so far the state’s high court has stayed that decision, and it’s not clear if it will go into effect.
  • In Oregon, which is gaining a seat due to population growth, Democrats drew a map with five Democratic-leaning districts and one Republican-leaning district — an improvement for them over the 3-2 status quo.
  • In Nevada, Democrats turned a map where three of four districts leaned Republican to one where three leaned Democratic.
  • In New Mexico, which had two Democratic-leaning districts and one GOP-leaning one, Democrats wiped away that Republican district in an attempt to create a 3-0 map.
That amounts to wiping out 12 Republican districts and creating 11 Democratic districts — an enormous impact on the overall map.
 
All of which is why I say districts need to be drawn by non-partisan teams based primarily on geography and population, with no focus on leanings. People that live together vote together. There should be no input at all from parties or PACS.
 
All of which is why I say districts need to be drawn by non-partisan teams based primarily on geography and population, with no focus on leanings. People that live together vote together. There should be no need for input at all from parties or PACS.
fyp :)

and i agree with your statement, in an ideal world.
 
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