Random News Story I thought you folk might Find Interesting

[CandiCame]

Because you like religion and crazy people, and this has both.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/03/pastor-sean-harris-beat-gay-children-sermon_n_1474510.html

 

[Busybody]

what exactly IS the problem here

as

"you" see it?

 

[CandiCame]

Not everyone looks for problems. Not everyone is argumentative. I thought it was interesting.

I don't like religious people, and I have made that very clear. One of the reasons for that is that there are, in fact, verses that speak of beating the devil out of your child. However, in this day and age, it's difficult to speak without somebody jumping on your case. I know that what this man said was wrong, but I've said plenty of stupid shit, far to much to call someone else out for saying stupid shit. And he truly might not have meant it. He might have just had a derped out moment. That's what he says about it. And like I said, I can't fault anyone for that.

I was just wondering what everyone else thought about it.

 

[blobfish]

Kids shouldn't be beaten, but they should be spanked. No smacking now, Ritalin later. It's no coincidence that school shootings really began with the "creative punishment" generation.

 

[Busybody]

I am sure that those who heard

didnt take it literally



Those that may have, were sick to start with

 

[CandiCame]

Kids shouldn't be beaten, but they should be spanked. No smacking now, Ritalin later. It's no coincidence that school shootings really began with the "creative punishment" generation.

I don't know, I think that punishments should be varied by the child. Beatings don't teach me shit because I don't care if you hospitalize me, I only learn that I don't like you. Having what I did wrong explained to me (lecture) works like a charm. My littlest brother learned better via time-out. My middle brother never learned... ever. Didn't matter what you did to him. Because he's an attention whore, and punishment is a form of attention.

But either way, there's no way to punish the gay away. I mean, regardless of how you're doing it, it's never going to work. You'll just make yourself sad and damage your relationship with the kid.

 

[blobfish]

I don't know, I think that punishments should be varied by the child. Beatings don't teach me shit because I don't care if you hospitalize me, I only learn that I don't like you. Having what I did wrong explained to me (lecture) works like a charm. My littlest brother learned better via time-out. My middle brother never learned... ever. Didn't matter what you did to him. Because he's an attention whore, and punishment is a form of attention.

But either way, there's no way to punish the gay away. I mean, regardless of how you're doing it, it's never going to work. You'll just make yourself sad and damage your relationship with the kid.

I wasn't talking about the gay stuff, just spanking in general. Of course, it also depends on the age and nature of the child. A four year old will just not respond to lectures.

 

[CandiCame]

I wasn't talking about the gay stuff, just spanking in general. Of course, it also depends on the age and nature of the child. A four year old will just not respond to lectures.

I did though. That's all I ever responded to. I was seriously hospitalized when I was three, I remember because my mom was pregnant with my brother, for painting on the walls. My dad beat the living shit out of me, ripped my shoulder up real good, picking me up by my arm and shit, and all I learned was, "Well fuck that guy." Then my mom sat down and explained that she worked at fucking K-mart and they had to buy all my brother's baby shit, and that I sucked at painting, because I was three, and they'd have to spend time and energy and money fixing what I had fucked up, and I felt fucking horrible. I never did it again. I made a pregnant woman in an abusive relationship have to take time off work to redo everything I had fucked up, inhaling paint fumes, etc. I cried my eyes out because I was the biggest prick in the world.

Of course... I don't know how many people can guilt-trip a three year old as well as my mom. She was good at that shit. "Don't call child services, because if you do, they'll separate you and you'll never see your brother again, and it'll be all your fault!"

...That might be some underlying cause of my suicidal depression...

 

[about_average]

I was just wondering what everyone else thought about it.

I think generally analogies should be in the context of the time. When the Bible speaks of cutting off the hand or plucking the eye that offends, such violence was quite common, even if it was only an analogy.
Today it's not quite so acceptable.

 

[blobfish]

I did though. That's all I ever responded to. I was seriously hospitalized when I was three, I remember because my mom was pregnant with my brother, for painting on the walls. My dad beat the living shit out of me, ripped my shoulder up real good, picking me up by my arm and shit, and all I learned was, "Well fuck that guy." Then my mom sat down and explained that she worked at fucking K-mart and they had to buy all my brother's baby shit, and that I sucked at painting, because I was three, and they'd have to spend time and energy and money fixing what I had fucked up, and I felt fucking horrible. I never did it again. I made a pregnant woman in an abusive relationship have to take time off work to redo everything I had fucked up, inhaling paint fumes, etc. I cried my eyes out because I was the biggest prick in the world.

Of course... I don't know how many people can guilt-trip a three year old as well as my mom. She was good at that shit. "Don't call child services, because if you do, they'll separate you and you'll never see your brother again, and it'll be all your fault!"

...That might be some underlying cause of my suicidal depression...

Well, I was referring to a fairly light spank, not a vicious beating. I was never beaten, but I got a hard spank many times. I'm pretty fucked up, but that sure as hell isn't what caused it. That sort of thing never hurt anyone.

 

[Tryharder62]

Not everyone looks for problems. Not everyone is argumentative. I thought it was interesting.

I don't like religious people, and I have made that very clear. One of the reasons for that is that there are, in fact, verses that speak of beating the devil out of your child. However, in this day and age, it's difficult to speak without somebody jumping on your case. I know that what this man said was wrong, but I've said plenty of stupid shit, far to much to call someone else out for saying stupid shit. And he truly might not have meant it. He might have just had a derped out moment. That's what he says about it. And like I said, I can't fault anyone for that.

I was just wondering what everyone else thought about it.

You know, I think the you are right. The pastor in this article sounds crazy. In all honesty I just really feel bad that you lump all religious people into one big group. I know you put me in that bunch and it just makes me sad.

 

[Tryharder62]

I did though. That's all I ever responded to. I was seriously hospitalized when I was three, I remember because my mom was pregnant with my brother, for painting on the walls. My dad beat the living shit out of me, ripped my shoulder up real good, picking me up by my arm and shit, and all I learned was, "Well fuck that guy." Then my mom sat down and explained that she worked at fucking K-mart and they had to buy all my brother's baby shit, and that I sucked at painting, because I was three, and they'd have to spend time and energy and money fixing what I had fucked up, and I felt fucking horrible. I never did it again. I made a pregnant woman in an abusive relationship have to take time off work to redo everything I had fucked up, inhaling paint fumes, etc. I cried my eyes out because I was the biggest prick in the world.

Of course... I don't know how many people can guilt-trip a three year old as well as my mom. She was good at that shit. "Don't call child services, because if you do, they'll separate you and you'll never see your brother again, and it'll be all your fault!"

...That might be some underlying cause of my suicidal depression...

I'm sorry that that happened to you. I agree that lectures or verbal wounds can be just as harsh as physical wounds. There was a lot of violence in my childhood home too. Mostly between my parents. It wasn't uncommon to wake up and have to break up fights. One time I stopped Mom from stabbing him. Our mom's should have had a great time together. I hope you can see that as an adult that that precious little boy wasn't a prick. He was simply being a precious little boy.

 

[CandiCame]

I'm sorry that that happened to you. I agree that lectures or verbal wounds can be just as harsh as physical wounds. There was a lot of violence in my childhood home too. Mostly between my parents. It wasn't uncommon to wake up and have to break up fights. One time I stopped Mom from stabbing him. Our mom's should have had a great time together. I hope you can see that as an adult that that precious little boy wasn't a prick. He was simply being a precious little boy.

No, that was a pretty douchebag thing to do. I shouldn't have painted the walls. Now people pay me to do murals. Que ironico. But yeah, I did suck. I don't even remember what it was supposed to be, but I failed at it.

 

[doctor_insanus]

The only good that religion and beatings provide these days involves Catholic schoolgirls.

I don't want priests or pastors involved with the discipline of children. At all.

 

[fair_warning]

Yes, people like that Pastor are scary people because he is speaking to an audience that are not discerning or critical. They are there, in church, because they have faith - and probably would never dream of questioning the Pastor's word.

'‘If your hand is causing you to sin, cut it off.' He's not speaking literally. He's speaking figuratively, using hyperbole to convey the importance of the offense." Once again, we are presented with a biblical conumdrum, to take advice from the bible literally or not. And we all know that violence and brutality was a way of life then - so, I wonder, how many hand choppings or eye gougings happened as a result of taking hyperbole literally? Oops!!

 

[Tryharder62]

The only good that religion and beatings provide these days involves Catholic schoolgirls.

I don't want priests or pastors involved with the discipline of children. At all.

Lol. That first part is so funny . I like your avatar by the way. When my dad died I first saw the popular Christian One Keep Calm and Carry On in a store on a stamp that you use with an ink pad . That saying helped me at a rough time. Since then I have seen Keep Calm and Eat a Cupcake series at Barnes and Nobel and now yours. Maybe I should start a thread. LOL.

I had a lot of cool calming moments after dad died. It was raining when he died and my dad loved the rain. I found this neat wall hanging that said Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass. It is about learning to dance in the rain.

 

[CandiCame]

Lol. That first part is so funny . I like your avatar by the way. When my dad died I first saw the popular Christian One Keep Calm and Carry On in a store on a stamp that you use with an ink pad . That saying helped me at a rough time. Since then I have seen Keep Calm and Eat a Cupcake series at Barnes and Nobel and now yours. Maybe I should start a thread. LOL.

I had a lot of cool calming moments after dad died. It was raining when he died and my dad loved the rain. I found this neat wall hanging that said Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass. It is about learning to dance in the rain.

That's actually not a religious thing. That's an English morale booster from WW2. You could get bombed at any moment, so the government started putting those up as little pick-me-ups.

 

[Image]

Not everyone looks for problems. Not everyone is argumentative. I thought it was interesting.

I don't like religious people, and I have made that very clear. One of the reasons for that is that there are, in fact, verses that speak of beating the devil out of your child. However, in this day and age, it's difficult to speak without somebody jumping on your case. I know that what this man said was wrong, but I've said plenty of stupid shit, far to much to call someone else out for saying stupid shit. And he truly might not have meant it. He might have just had a derped out moment. That's what he says about it. And like I said, I can't fault anyone for that.I was just wondering what everyone else thought about it.

Ummm, no... You could practically see the spit and foam coming out of his mouth when he talked about "breaking the wrist".

This wasn't an accidental stupid. It's the real thing...

 

[Tryharder62]

Yes, people like that Pastor are scary people because he is speaking to an audience that are not discerning or critical. They are there, in church, because they have faith - and probably would never dream of questioning the Pastor's word.

'‘If your hand is causing you to sin, cut it off.' He's not speaking literally. He's speaking figuratively, using hyperbole to convey the importance of the offense." Once again, we are presented with a biblical conumdrum, to take advice from the bible literally or not. And we all know that violence and brutality was a way of life then - so, I wonder, how many hand choppings or eye gougings happened as a result of taking hyperbole literally? Oops!!

All spoken languages of the world, both past and present, have idioms, metaphores and mannerisms of speech. Some Western/ English idioms "He's in hot water" or "He's in a jam" mean that he is in trouble. Also if one is fired or canned they are not burnt or put in a can, they have lossed their job. I think it is important to know about the language of the times.

 

[Tryharder62]

That's actually not a religious thing. That's an English morale booster from WW2. You could get bombed at any moment, so the government started putting those up as little pick-me-ups.

Really, I did not know that. I just know I've seen them around alot. Above the one I have is a crown and the one at B&N a cupcake and then the one here. Thanks for telling me. Neat!!

 

[Tryharder62]

I can't see what is on top of Doctor Insanus's. Do I want to know? LOL

 

[CandiCame]

Really, I did not know that. I just know I've seen them around alot. Above the one I have is a crown and the one at B&N a cupcake and then the one here. Thanks for telling me. Neat!!

Yeah, they got super popular because of Dr Who. The one with the crown is the original. That's the English Queen's crown.