Prop. 2

[Sallad]

Passed. 3:1... I'd like to say I can't believe it... but I live in Texas. I expected it.

Incase you don't know what I'm talking about, Texas voters just voted yes on passing a Texas Constitutional amendment to ban gay marriage.

 

[dizzylia]

Passed. 3:1... I'd like to say I can't believe it... but I live in Texas. I expected it.

Incase you don't know what I'm talking about, Texas voters just voted yes on passing a Texas Constitutional amendment to ban gay marriage.

Unfortunately, it's not all that surprising, being Texas and all. How close was the vote?

 

[Sallad]

Unfortunately, it's not all that surprising, being Texas and all. How close was the vote?

3 to 1 pretty much. I think 74% to 26% was the official report.

 

[kbate]

The numbers are almost exactly in line with the polls which consistantly tell us that 80% of people do not want Gay Marriage to become legal.

This represents 13% more than voted for President Bush. Hatred for us crosses party lines.

 

[Tymeless]

yeah ain't that the truth.

 

[dizzylia]

3 to 1 pretty much. I think 74% to 26% was the official report.

26% is still better than it would have been ten years ago. It's just... slower there. Heh.

Good luck!

 

[Nirvanadragones]

Yet, it's just so sad and frustrating, is it not? I mean why on earth should this still be an issue? Two people meet, fall in love, and want to spend the rest of their lives together, maybe have a kiddie or two and a dog and a cd collection. Why on earth are they not allowed to do this legally?

It makes me angry. Who the hell do they think they are to make decisions like that? If the GLBT community were to make a decision about whether hetero marriages should be "illegalised"... HAH. just imagine that for a second.

Yeah i know i'm being mallicious. Please forgive. I think i'm PMSing...

 

[sxxyblueyes]

I haven't heard of this til now but can't say I'm surprised either. Seeing as how it's coming from GWB's home state and how against that whole thing he is.

I just think it should be up to the individuals involved if they want to get married or not. It shouldn't be up the the government to determine whether two people are allowed to marry based on their sex alone. If two people love and care for each other, then why should their gender matter?

 

[Sallad]

The thing is, we have to remember that, unfortunately, the GLBT community is still an oppressed minorty in MOST of the US. I think the time will come, but probably not soon.

In 1967 (not even 30 years ago) 16 states still hade anti-miscegenation laws in tact (no mixing of the races). Things will change, just not a soon as we'd like them too, I know.

 

[Nirvanadragones]

Agree - and it gets worse... I'm originally from South africa where the first general fair election was held in 1994. How fucked up is that?!

The thing is, we have to remember that, unfortunately, the GLBT community is still an oppressed minorty in MOST of the US. I think the time will come, but probably not soon.

In 1967 (not even 30 years ago) 16 states still hade anti-miscegenation laws in tact (no mixing of the races). Things will change, just not a soon as we'd like them too, I know.

 

[Nabokov]

In Michigan a similar prop was passed last November. We can take heart that this kind of bullshit law will be overturned eventually. Our culture seems to move back and forth between Right wing and Left wing thought every 20 years or so. This kind of proposition is an example of overreaching in the worst way. In the end, I think the reasoning will shift along the following lines:

If any person of conscience actually thinks about gay marriage, they will understand that another's marriage says nothing about themselves. What does Bob and Judy's marriage down the block have to do with me? Any marriage is primarily meaningful to those who are (or are to be) married. It seems the rancore is over the state sanctioning gay marriage, but again, it says nothing to me that so and so are married. Why do I give a shit? In what way does it HURT me that so and so are married? The only possible issue I can see with gay marriage is: what happens when the relationship fails --how do you divide up the assets? We cannot easily apply the gender norms used to decide hetero divorces and custody battles. But, this problem is already being worked out with gay relationships and the courts anyway.

As the public slowly moves away from the right, I think they will back off. I only hope it happens sooner rather than later.

 

[Guest]

Passed. 3:1... I'd like to say I can't believe it... but I live in Texas. I expected it.

Incase you don't know what I'm talking about, Texas voters just voted yes on passing a Texas Constitutional amendment to ban gay marriage.

that sucks.

 

[Quint]

Yeah sucks to be Texas. I could go on but I don't have words. I too am just waiting for the current generation to get too old to vote and the next generation to step up and start mopping up the mess.

 

[dizzylia]

Yeah sucks to be Texas. I could go on but I don't have words. I too am just waiting for the current generation to get too old to vote and the next generation to step up and start mopping up the mess.

Which is generally how it works, and which is why I still have hope. Everyone ages at the same sixty seconds per minute.

It does bother me when politicians take it upon themselves to tell me what's moral and what isn't. I'd like to find an innocent politician first. Then maybe I'll let them talk to me about morality.


-dizzy


(Edited for grammar check.)

 

[buttpluglover]

prop 2

hm... here, Prop 2 was for a bond issue to fund a massive transportation improvement, including FINALLY finishing that f'in 2nd Ave subway line.

Yours is more important; you win.

My parents are Texas residents but were in SC this week... I don't think they voted; I wonder how they would've voted.

/not gonna ask

 

[pintip2]

pintip2 If two guys were to marry.....

that sucks.

they would be cheating on each other n a very short time so what would it get you as a group??

 

[Sallad]

they would be cheating on each other n a very short time so what would it get you as a group??

I can't wait for one of our local homos to come in here and whoop your ass for that very stereotypical statement you just made. Why post in the GLBT, if you have no respect for that community, asswipe?

 

[John Doe]

Yeah, but it's not all bad. They can still have buttsex there.

 

[Sallad]

Yeah, but it's not all bad. They can still have buttsex there.

Actually... I think anal and oral are still technically illegal here.

 

[John Doe]

Actually... I think anal and oral are still technically illegal here.

Homosexual sodomy was recently legalized, or rather, the law against it was overturned.

Background on Lambda Legal's case challenging Texas's "Homosexual Conduct" law

Slate article

Details of Supreme Court case

 

[Sallad]

Homosexual sodomy was recently legalized.

Background on Lambda Legal's case challenging Texas's "Homosexual Conduct" law

Slate article

Details of Supreme Court case

Well slap my ass... I didn't know
Good to know.
But it sorta takes the fun out of it when it's not wrong anymore doesn't it?

 

[John Doe]

Well slap my ass...

Okay.

I didn't know
Good to know.
But it sorta takes the fun out of it when it's not wrong anymore doesn't it?

Well, some of the fun perhaps. Maybe I just like buttsex on its own merits.

 

[Sallad]

Okay.



Well, some of the fun perhaps. Maybe I just like buttsex on its own merits.

I agree completely. But of course it makes it more fun if you could get in trouble for it.

 

[leopardlover]

Thank the heavens for vt and mass...

 

[John Doe]

I agree completely. But of course it makes it more fun if you could get in trouble for it.

Ooh, you like to be naughty?