Pontiac to bring back the GTO!!!!!
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Draco
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I think this is the one we're talking about....
http://www.motortrend.com/oct01/holden/holden_f.html
http://www.motortrend.com/oct01/holden/holden_f.html
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GM is almost done cannibalizing their incredible sports car / muscle car history with shitty plastic front wheel drive cars.
Who thought that one day the Monte Carlo SS could get beat down in a drag race with a stock 4 cylinder Nissan / Honda / Toyota?
Who thought that one day the Monte Carlo SS could get beat down in a drag race with a stock 4 cylinder Nissan / Honda / Toyota?
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The beautiful old GTO's:
http://www.classicsportscars.com/5M109176.jpg
And that Aussie thing:
http://www.motortrend.com/oct01/holden/holden.jpg
When will GM realize that people expect more than a nameplate to carry on the automotive heritage.
http://www.classicsportscars.com/5M109176.jpg
And that Aussie thing:
http://www.motortrend.com/oct01/holden/holden.jpg
When will GM realize that people expect more than a nameplate to carry on the automotive heritage.
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Marxist said:
If it weren't for the incredible performance of the new design Corvette, they'd be out of the performance car biz altogether.
Front wheel drive perfomance car is an oxymoron. Drag racing maybe, but a rear wheeler will knock the socks off of ANY front wheel drive once you have to turn a corner. Try a 'power drift' in a front wheel drive anything, and I'll wave at you sitting there picking the corn stalks out of your teeth while I slide by in my '63 Studebaker Avanti.
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SHIT, it's about god damn time GM has done something smart within the last 10 or so years.
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Clitfucker said:SHIT, it's about god damn time GM has done something smart within the last 10 or so years.
There's nothing smart about what they're doing. The "new" GTO is a travesty. (It may be a nice car, but it is no GTO.)
GM is f*ing up left and right. 2002 is the last year for the Camaros and Firebirds and the current Impala makes me weep.
edit - next time, I won't type without my glasses, 2003 should have been 2002
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Kitten Eyes said:
Sorry about that Kitten Eyes. Didn't realize that the new GTO would be an Australian import.
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It has nothing to do with it being an import. The WRX is a kick ass import.
The GTO muscle cars were eight cylinder, rear wheel drive beasts, as were the Impalas. They were all raw cubes, pure motor. Granted, at least this time GM did pick a V8, rwd, but it is not the same caliber as the old GTOs.
edit - I read the article on the Holden, it looks like they filling the Camaro's shoes with that one.
The GTO muscle cars were eight cylinder, rear wheel drive beasts, as were the Impalas. They were all raw cubes, pure motor. Granted, at least this time GM did pick a V8, rwd, but it is not the same caliber as the old GTOs.
edit - I read the article on the Holden, it looks like they filling the Camaro's shoes with that one.
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Kitten Eyes said:
Ok, now I see what you are saying. I just woke up about an hour ago.
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They'll never build 'em like that again.
But do you really expect that? You can't go home again--it's not the '60s anymore, automotively or any other way.
Ford made 5-million Model As. The next time they came out with a 4-cyl, 4-speed that sat four comfortably, it was the Pinto. You can't go home again.
The funny thing about GM is all this trying to capitalise on the old names. The current Impala is not what I think of as "Impala;" I hate that commercial with the guy at the dealer, and the overview of the '59 ragtop--please. It's insulting.
At least Ford didn't call the Pinto a Model A.
But do you really expect that? You can't go home again--it's not the '60s anymore, automotively or any other way.
Ford made 5-million Model As. The next time they came out with a 4-cyl, 4-speed that sat four comfortably, it was the Pinto. You can't go home again.
The funny thing about GM is all this trying to capitalise on the old names. The current Impala is not what I think of as "Impala;" I hate that commercial with the guy at the dealer, and the overview of the '59 ragtop--please. It's insulting.
At least Ford didn't call the Pinto a Model A.
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Re: They'll never build 'em like that again.
The Impala commercial sucks! I understand that you cant go home. I just would like to be able to afford a real GTO to have as my toy car! To think that I used to have one right out of high school and it ended up in the junkyard frustrates me.kotori said:
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Keep the real ones alive.
I know--I even get nostalgic every time I see a '65 Biscayne. (My old man was a cheapskate.) But I think, if only. . .bored1 said:The Impala commercial sucks! I understand that you cant go home. I just would like to be able to afford a real GTO to have as my toy car! To think that I used to have one right out of high school and it ended up in the junkyard frustrates me.
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GM almost got it right when they put together the '95 Impala SS. What a fun driving 4 door car!
Big V8, rear drive, handled like a whale, all that I'd come to expect out of GM.
GM almost got it right when they put together the '95 Impala SS. What a fun driving 4 door car!
Big V8, rear drive, handled like a whale, all that I'd come to expect out of GM.
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