Orgasms! Orgasms! Orgasms!

[yukonnights]

Woah!!! Thank you

On point 3, I come from a different place than Lit. I know my audience, personally. I see them and interact with them, giving them that opportunity to steer my stories to their delight. I get direct and explicit feedback and have the opportunity to fix the things that they don't like. I don't know how that translates out here IRL where you have no idea who's reading your stuff and voting or down voting them seemingly at random.

I will admit that pandering to the crowd deserves a

Question: Does that mean I can keep putting Ambien in my coffee?

I would think you could keep the Ambien...and maybe even add a dash of something stronger on occasion (strictly medicinal mind you...and on occasion for inspiration...all in the quest for believable writing.) It's been a fun discussion and I hope you find you don't have to pander too much. I don't recall you ever saying what you hoped to write here...is that a secret still? If not, I'm sure inquiring minds would like to know.

 

[JamesMiehoff]

Back to the OP's question, it all depends on motivation.

To quote an old girlfriend (actually she wasn't old, this was just a long time ago), "I suck you off first because the first one is the easy one and you aren't getting off that easily."

She later amplified that by adding, "You're a nice guy and you feel guilty, so you eat me until I come a few times or until your cock robs the blood from your brain and you mindlessly fuck me for an hour or two. If I didn't suck you off first, we'd be done in 10 minutes and you would be asleep and I'd be frustrated."

So it all depends on the motivation about how many orgasms you can fit into a page. Do you want one big one and go to sleep or do you want a good story?

The more the merrier as long as there are lots of good descriptions.

James

 

[Zeb_Carter]

Right, my short stories are rarely limited to a single sex scene. Some can cover years or decades. So, that's right, it's not "short story equals a single sex scene" for me.

Again, you misunderstood the statement. You've have had a bad habit of doing that lately.

 

[Hypoxia]

How many orgasms are too many in an average (2 to 3 Lit-page) length story?

...I'm seriously interested what you think about stories that always have the female and/or male character cumming two or three times in course of one, albeit protracted, sexual encounter.

The implication is straight one-on-one MF fucking with no extreme kinks. There's more to love than that.

I wrote an 9-LIT-page Romance tale with exactly one blowjob. No more were needed. I've snarkily written of nineteen women in an oral daisychain with uncountable orgasms. More would have been welcome. More than once, I've written of a young man cumming into his partner four times in an hour while bringing her to long, extended orgasms, in varied positions. I've written of multi-orgasmic groups and gangbangs. I've written of drug-enhanced superfucks. These tales are all fantasies, so reality can be stretched a bit.

What do I think of all that? Hey, I'm trying to entertain wankers. How about "stories that always have the female and/or male character cumming" repeatedly? Well, don't overdo it. Unless it works.

 

[JanusGoneAwry]

I would think you could keep the Ambien...and maybe even add a dash of something stronger on occasion (strictly medicinal mind you...and on occasion for inspiration...all in the quest for believable writing.) It's been a fun discussion and I hope you find you don't have to pander too much. I don't recall you ever saying what you hoped to write here...is that a secret still? If not, I'm sure inquiring minds would like to know.

OT My audience was pretty vanilla so my first couple of stories are published in Erotic Couplings where I’ll publish more pieces while I work on some more adventurous ones :caning: if you know what I mean. The creative landscape here is a bit intoxicating which I enjoy immensely. I’m particularly enjoying reading work from authors in different genres.

 

[KeithD]

Again, you misunderstood the statement. You've have had a bad habit of doing that lately.

I admitted that I'd read it wrong and apologized to you. I haven't kept track of your recent habits. Interesting that you keep track of mine (or pretend you have to be snarky).

 

[JanusGoneAwry]

The implication is straight one-on-one MF fucking with no extreme kinks. There's more to love than that.

I wrote an 9-LIT-page Romance tale with exactly one blowjob. No more were needed. I've snarkily written of nineteen women in an oral daisychain with uncountable orgasms. More would have been welcome. More than once, I've written of a young man cumming into his partner four times in an hour while bringing her to long, extended orgasms, in varied positions. I've written of multi-orgasmic groups and gangbangs. I've written of drug-enhanced superfucks. These tales are all fantasies, so reality can be stretched a bit.

What do I think of all that? Hey, I'm trying to entertain wankers. How about "stories that always have the female and/or male character cumming" repeatedly? Well, don't overdo it. Unless it works.

Well now I have goals!!! Your body of work is impressive and I hear the message loud and clear. What’s funny about it is I’ve always kept to what the story calls for. I haven’t written a story that I didn’t believe in and it was only coming here with the diversity and sheer volume of work that I felt myself wondering if my stories were up to snuff. I’ve read a bunch of your posts and your message on this topic is pretty consistent “do what the story requires no more no less”. I appreciate that!!

 

[Hypoxia]

Your body of work is impressive...

Thank you, thank you. [/me buffs fingernails on lapel]

I’ve read a bunch of your posts and your message on this topic is pretty consistent “do what the story requires no more no less”.

There's a bit more than that. Minimalism can work. So can fleshing-out the story to give it depth and flavor. I don't really NEED to explain various things but I do anyway because 1) fun and 2) tasty. So in a series, I tell how steam engines work. Hey, some people here write obsessively about cars. Okay...

So I'm not, “do what the story requires no more no less”, but, "do whatever you think the story needs". That may including cutting out vast sections that don't really go with the flow. I can usually tell when I've gone too far.

One model of writing: it's sculpture. I may sketch the framework of a story, then plop a lot of clay onto that armature, and then shave some off and plop more on, and push stuff around till it looks right.

More orgasms may be needed. Don't be frugal... unless that works.

 

[JanusGoneAwry]

So I'm not, “do what the story requires no more no less”, but, "do whatever you think the story needs". That may including cutting out vast sections that don't really go with the flow. I can usually tell when I've gone too far..

I sit corrected

 

[KeithD]

While you're sitting, you might as well write a story.

 

[JanusGoneAwry]

While you're sitting, you might as well write a story.

It was a dark and stormy night when Harry met Sally. It was the night before they were going to enter Thunderdome so they fucked like bunny rabbits.

The end.


It’s a work in progress

 

[Hypoxia]

Let us not descend into 20-word story territory. Please.

50 words at least. That's a lot in German. They can be long.

 

[Zeb_Carter]

I admitted that I'd read it wrong and apologized to you. I haven't kept track of your recent habits. Interesting that you keep track of mine (or pretend you have to be snarky).

Snarky, that would be a good Alt for you. And I don't keep track, I do read threads though and have the god awful mind that retains almost everything I read. Of course it's a little flaky with the spoken word. And I bet you still suffer from having to have the last word.

 

[SimonDoom]

One model of writing: it's sculpture. I may sketch the framework of a story, then plop a lot of clay onto that armature, and then shave some off and plop more on, and push stuff around till it looks right.

I hadn't thought about a sculpture model of writing, but I like it.

A model I work with is to think of a short story as like a zen garden. It's not a duplication of nature, but a recreation of it through the artful placement of essential elements, which create a facsimile of nature. A truly artfully done garden is pleasing without mimicking nature. I think of a story like that.

 

[ElectricBlue]

I hadn't thought about a sculpture model of writing, but I like it.

A model I work with is to think of a short story as like a zen garden. It's not a duplication of nature, but a recreation of it through the artful placement of essential elements, which create a facsimile of nature. A truly artfully done garden is pleasing without mimicking nature. I think of a story like that.

That's a nice little analogy, Simon, being a fan of gardens and Zen myself .

 

[vanmyers86]

Originally Posted by Hypoxia

One model of writing: it's sculpture. I may sketch the framework of a story, then plop a lot of clay onto that armature, and then shave some off and plop more on, and push stuff around till it looks right.

I hadn't thought about a sculpture model of writing, but I like it.

A model I work with is to think of a short story as like a zen garden. It's not a duplication of nature, but a recreation of it through the artful placement of essential elements, which create a facsimile of nature. A truly artfully done garden is pleasing without mimicking nature. I think of a story like that.

You people are deep. I think of stories like those creatures from Alien, scrabbling at my thoracic cavity walls until they burst forth and cover innocent bystanders with KY and slime.

Just me?

 

[SimonDoom]

You people are deep. I think of stories like those creatures from Alien, scrabbling at my thoracic cavity walls until they burst forth and cover innocent bystanders with KY and slime.

Just me?

Don't sell yourself short. This is deep, too. Just in a really sick, twisted way.

Not that there's anything wrong with that.

 

[JanusGoneAwry]

Thank you, thank you. [/me buffs fingernails on lapel]
One model of writing: it's sculpture. I may sketch the framework of a story, then plop a lot of clay onto that armature, and then shave some off and plop more on, and push stuff around till it looks right.

A model I work with is to think of a short story as like a zen garden. It's not a duplication of nature, but a recreation of it through the artful placement of essential elements, which create a facsimile of nature. A truly artfully done garden is pleasing without mimicking nature. I think of a story like that.

You people are deep. I think of stories like those creatures from Alien, scrabbling at my thoracic cavity walls until they burst forth and cover innocent bystanders with KY and slime.

Just me?

So pretty OT but another fascinating aspect of the craft. I never really thought about the different roads we take to achieve the goal of writing a "good story" but of course it makes complete sense.

For me, I start with a high-level concept of where the story, or scene if you prefer, starts and the basic premise of what will happen but I don't get too detailed because as I fall into the story it IS the forest and like the forest it is living and breathing with lots of imperfections and paths that can be taken. I often feel like I am a recorder of the events and circumstances acting on my characters. My stories write themselves and frequently take me in unforeseen ways.

For example, I was very fond of a dancer that loved fancy masquerade masks. I used to buy them for her and she would hang them on her walls at home. I decided to write her into a story with a masquerade ball as the setting. I was going to be one of those fuck a stranger stories and I was fine with that. The story had other ideas though. First, it wanted to be set in New Orleans so I did research on hotels that would likely have lavash masquerade balls. Then it decided that the ball was just a gateway to a darker and more interesting plot as Summer (my protagonist) was drawn into a party taking place in the old money part of the city. I won't share more details here because I plan to publish it after a good deep editing session later this spring but the point is that the story wanted to go that way and I was along for the ride.

I am not implying that I am not making word choice and other specific decisions while writing it but I actually do fall into my imagination and thus the story takes shape organically.

Anyone else????

No?

Just me I guess

 

[TxRad]

The writer writes characters. The characters write the story.

Sounds so simple doesn't it.

 

[ElectricBlue]

I often feel like I am a recorder of the events and circumstances acting on my characters. My stories write themselves and frequently take me in unforeseen ways.

...

Anyone else????

No?

Just me I guess.

No, not just you. All of my stories happen that way; minimal plotting, zero planning, sometimes just an opening scene. I always start writing with only the leading characters in mind, then other characters just arrive, streaming up from my subconscious demanding to be written. My job as writer is to keep up.

 

[Hypoxia]

The writer writes characters. The characters write the story.

Sounds so simple doesn't it.

How A Writer Works gives us a basic starting point: What do you want to say? Beyond that, writing is exploration. We figure out what we're thinking as we write it. It's a maze.

 

[rutger5]

Interesting thread. But it got me thinking about how multi-orgasmic readers respond to a story versus mono-orgasmic readers.

For me, as a typical male, despite how many orgasms are described, it's "one and done" ... I get one orgasm out of the story. I might be good for another one after the refractory period, but not right away. By then, I'm on to the next story.

But for women who can ride an orgasm for longer, or who experience multiple orgasms within a short period of time, is the reading experience different? Can women get a separate orgasm from each description of sex in a single short story? I really don't know. I've never asked a woman this.

A story of mine had a woman comment that she came thrice without touching her clit and another commented that she came 2 or 3 times though she wished I had gotten to the action (sex I'm guessing) quicker.
So, much like what type of story to write or the perfect length of a story I'm guessing there are many answers to the question. As far as others said in regards to the original question - it depends on the story. If it is how many orgasms occur in each sex scene then go with what makes sense and is plausible and how many orgasms happen in each story it will depend on the story.