OK, the Queen Mum's dead. So what?

p_p_man

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It can't be said that it was unexpected, unless the Royals think they're immortal, so why have we Brits been subjected to day in and day out of constant news updates on the state of play?

Her death isn't really a news worthy item.

She was nearly 102...

She's left behind enough questions about her influence over the Royal Family (the most recent one being the Charles "I wish I were a condom", Camilla and Diana situation) to question whether she really was the angel of light that she's being painted to be. But all that's for the future. After she's finally buried.

No what's woken me up from my stupor, is watching Charles this afternoon speaking about his grandmother in such a rehearsed and stilted way that his words must have come straight from the Palace Press Office. That lad was never a very good actor in the first place. I remember his acting debut at University.

And to cap it all, during one of the news updates (I really don't know how many updates you can have over a dead person) we were informed, with a shot of the Queen and the Princess Royal on horseback in the background, that the Queen was bearing her grief "stoically"!

Good grief! Stoically? Is the whole family built of such tender fragility that the death of 102 year old woman, who has been confined to her bed for a couple of weeks, came as such a total shock.

Of course not. But what it does show is that the Palace mandarins should be replaced as soon as possible if the Windsors have any hope at all of surviving the next few years.

They're a bunch of German midgets anyway, struggling against an inbred handicap of not being too bright.

But I'm a fair man. At least give them a chance at going it alone, unfettered by protocol so rigidly enforced by their advisers.

We might all be pleasantly surprised...

Though I doubt it.

ppman
 
Lol p_p_man... you just get cooler with every post, I swear.

It does seem silly that the UK press seems to be making such a huge deal about the Queen Mum's death, but I have a question as to determine why this is happening: is it her death that people are concerned with, or her life? I doubt many people are surprised that she died at over 100 years old, but that doesn't mean they won't/can't grieve -- besides, she was the Queen's mother, and it must be hard to lose her at any age...

I guess what I'm saying is your question is legitimate (and funny), but you might be focusing on the wrong part of the picture. Of course, it makes sense if you're trying to criticize the country/monarchy/government...
 
BustyTheClown said:
Lol p_p_man... you just get cooler with every post, I swear.

Of course, it makes sense if you're trying to criticize the country/monarchy/government...

:D

Don't think I've ever been called cool before!

No the post is not trying to criticise but to bring things into perspective.

My own mum died last year at 98 and although there was a certain sadness that a familiar figure had disappeared from my life, I certainly didn't go around 'stoically' keeping a stiff upper lip.

There are many questions about the Queen Mother's life which will eventually be asked. Notwithstanding the Charles/Camilla/Diana setup I mentioned above. There's also the popular myth that she and the King stayed in London throughout the blitz.

I've heard, from sources I shall not reveal, that in fact they went to Windsor Castle each night which was more or less out of harms way.

That, to me, makes more sense than hanging around Buckingham Palace waiting for a doodlebug to fall.

It's just that suddenly we're meant to regard her as a lovely old lady who worked hard all her life for the monarchy. I can't deny she worked hard, as she was doing more or less right up until the last moments, but a sweet old lady? I have my doubts.

And if I hear one more time that she was "loved" by the nation I swear I'll take a horsewhip to Charles myself. Not because it's his fault that we are all meant to "love" her, but just because I think the cretin deserves it and should have it done to him years ago.

:)
 
I think the reason everyone is soo sad is that Diana and the Mum went ..... that only leaves the Queen and Charlie to go!! At least with thos 2 also gone, maybe the royals might make a come back with Prince Willy!
 
royal funerals anywhere in the world are big news
all the families are related
besides it has been a slow news weekend
 
Well p_p man I have to agree, at 101 who didnt see it coming?Now If Chucks mom would resign and turn the throne over to him:)
 
Hey, Peeper........

I agree with you 100%, all points!

Why don't you just throw them out, refuse to believe, Ding the King, Cream the Queen, whatever?


That's what we did!! :D

RhumbRunner:cool:
 
Re: Hey, Peeper........

RhumbRunner13 said:


That's what we did!! :D

RhumbRunner:cool:

Yeah but the one that you did was as mad as a hatter!

Oh! I see what you mean...

:D
 
I wish her a good rest for that tired ass of hers, and all but

Lemme just ask a irrelevant question here....


What good is a royal family if it can't rule?

What a bunch of pompus malarcky is that about?

I say abolish the royal family. It doesn't do a lick of good to keep putting on airs when there is nothing to be done by them that benifits anyone or anything but a bunch of tabloid magazines and the fools who buy into them.

Fooey.

Donate the profits of stripping them of their throne to the new National English Dental Program.
 
Re: I wish her a good rest for that tired ass of hers, and all but

Starfish said:
Lemme just ask a irrelevant question here....


What good is a royal family if it can't rule?

What a bunch of pompus malarcky is that about?


Are you sitting comfortably?

They are there for insurance. If we should ever be invaded or internal strife brings about another civil war the Royal Family is intended to provided a flag around which all Brits loyal to the old order can rally. They will become the focal point.

As they were during the Second World War when there were plans to evacuate them to Canada where they could set up a Government in Exile.

If the UK becames a Republic and we end up with President Blair or President, whatever that Conservative half-wit is called, I'd be the first to say "Long Live the King!"

I agree with there raison d'etre, it's the actual family I've got problems with.

The Windsors have had there day. They saw us through a turbulent 20th Century. It's time we considered appointing another family to take over the reins...

"Will all those who are applying for the job PLEASE make sure you have filled in the application form correctly. Take a seat in reception and you will be called shortly."

:)
 
P_P_Man

Gotta agree about the Queen Mum - hardly a fucking surprise that she carked it at 101.

Now she's going to be lying in state for another week - wont she get a bit whiffy by the time they bury her?
 
As far as the press coverge goes, it's been a cheap subject to report. They just dig through the archives and rehash some old stories. Hardly high quality investigative reporting.
It's far cheaper for the TV companies to put on an obituary programme than to make a game show and on a Bank Holiday weekend, who's watching TV anyway?
 
I am not a great fan of the royals myself, but you have to admit that when a person of her stature and fame dies, it is valid news.

I thought the royal family were only around anymore for the tourism industry. :D

Oh, get this...my fiance is looking into buying a property in Scotland that if he purchases it, comes with a title. That is so weird, that a person can buy a title. Anyway, the property comes with title and has a history that goes back 400 years. Two families were arguing over it, and finally decided to put it up with the property and sell the property.

So, if I bought the property, would that make me Lady Sateema? heh.
 
Sateema Lunasi said:

So, if I bought the property, would that make me Lady Sateema? heh.

Depends on what the title is your ladyship...

:)
 
a conversation is probably happening like this now as we speak

President bush - I've been thinking. that seeing as your queen mother has passed away and the country is in official mourning
that now would be a good time to bomb Iraq while the smoke screen is up

Tony Blair - (with tounge firmly up bush's ass) Definately no one will even notice and hopefully there will be no coverage in the papers as they are all full up of monarchy agendas
 
Apparently having the Royal Family is far more cost effective to our country than having a President. Strange as it may seem, the dotty old dears are cheaper than if we were to have someone like Lord Margaret of Thatcher voted in as Prez.

They give us a tourist industry, and since they don't actually interfere in the democratic process like, say, the House of Lords do, I say people should worry about more pressing matters.

Long live the Queen!
 
VanB said:
P_P_Man

Gotta agree about the Queen Mum - hardly a fucking surprise that she carked it at 101.

Now she's going to be lying in state for another week - wont she get a bit whiffy by the time they bury her?

Glad I am not the only one that thought that!
 
Not a nice thought is it?

BTW - I think the Royal family are great entertainment value. Now if they'd just stop whining about what a tough life they have I'm sure everyone would like them better!
 
p_p_man, I totally hear what you're saying with the "Why is she suddenly a sweet old lady now that she's dead?" I highly doubt that people in such stressful, precarious positions in society like King or Queen could be considered sweet or wonderful all the time. Everyone has their flaws, and for some reason when a person is in a (governmental) leadership position, those flaws are magnified ten-fold, if not more.

My great grandmother died a couple years ago at the age of 102. It was no surprise, and my family handled it pretty well as such -- but for some reason, even though I hardly even knew the woman, I cried when I heard she died; I later found out that she was a racist and not exactly the most respectable person on the planet. However, I don't think my reaction would have changed a whole lot had I known that information about her before she had died.

I think that might be what is happening with the Queen Mum's death; unless a person really was a bastard in life, people that knew (of) her seem to want to forget all the dinks and dents in the deceased's character and whatnot, and just show general respect and sadness at her passing. I'm not sure what moves people to do that, but I think it's a phenomenon that is quite frequent... And that's my 2p. :)
 
I'm just glad the best of England crossed the pond so we don't have to deal with the silly Royalty shit except in Hollywood.
 
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