Objectification

[Homburg]

Love it! And calling her "sweety" just makes it even better. Contrast. mmmm

Oh yes, that's a must. I use "please" and "thank you" and ask. It is used with the same sort of emotional content as you'd expect from a cop. Polite, but somewhat impersonal and an order, not a request. Adding in the little nicknames like "sweety" give it added spin. The tone is a bit smug and ever so slightly mocking. That added tint gives the emphasis that really nails the emotional tone down. The look is what usually makes her blush.

And adding another layer is the fact that I am clothed and she is naked.

Rawr.

 

[myinnerslut]

Oh yes, that's a must. I use "please" and "thank you" and ask. It is used with the same sort of emotional content as you'd expect from a cop. Polite, but somewhat impersonal and an order, not a request. Adding in the little nicknames like "sweety" give it added spin. The tone is a bit smug and ever so slightly mocking. That added tint gives the emphasis that really nails the emotional tone down. The look is what usually makes her blush.

And adding another layer is the fact that I am clothed and she is naked.

Rawr.

and from the flip point of view, i love the simple objectifiying positions such as being on my hands and knees (or on my stomach if my shoulder complians too much) with his feet resting on my back.

or being a pen holder while hes working. whether its holding it in my mouth or kneeling with my head to the floor and my ass in the air, and various writing implements being held in various...umm.... places

 

[twysted73]

Is the attraction being in the other's presence as not the focus but there indirectly to serve in a less then engaging capacity?

 

[Homburg]

Is the attraction being in the other's presence as not the focus but there indirectly to serve in a less then engaging capacity?

That's likely part of it. Part of it is going to be the absolution of identity and removal of need for conscious choice and thought. There's less self-consciousness needed than even telling her to "sit there and look pretty". Without worrying about anything but holding that position, her mind is free to wander, observe, absorb, and spin quietly in place. If it is done right, she spins the way you want her to, and feels very submissive in her service.

It helps if she is kinked in that direction.

 

[twysted73]

Would you be so kind as to give me one or perhaps two of your better situations?

I'm interested in the psychological impacts far more then cramping calf muscles.
(though that, too, must be taken into consideration)

I plan something in a few weeks and I'd like to encorporate this as well.

 

[Homburg]

Would you be so kind as to give me one or perhaps two of your better situations?

I'm interested in the psychological impacts far more then cramping calf muscles.
(though that, too, must be taken into consideration)

I plan something in a few weeks and I'd like to encorporate this as well.

I haven't done all that much. Hadn't done footstool duty until a bit more than a week ago, but found that to be hot. I was on the couch and she was laying naked at my feet. I ha dmy laptop and was doing some work, and we had a movie on. Had her get up on knees and elbows or hands and knees, and rested my feet on her back. Whenever I did not need my pen, I would have her hold onto it for me, in her teeth at first, and more intimately later.

I've also used my gal/s as pillows in similar situations, as well as having her just stand there and hold something for me while I did something else. It's largely a matter of having her do something simple and still, and fulfilling a function that an endtable, footstool, or some other piece of furniture might serve, and then paying as much visible attention as I would to that table or stool to her.

There are all sorts of other scenarios, but those are ones I've actually used and enjoyed. They don't really have to be complex things. It is, for me at least, more of hanging out and being close without really being active, and is thus a great way to recuperate from more energetic activities.

 

[FFOTS4Life]

I have a good friend who was been exploring the world of BDSM far longer than me...she is a sub and loves objectification play...I saw this post on here the other day and asked her about it.

She claims it is the hardest thing for her to do...but she also feel like it is her greatest accomplishment as a sub. She is often a footstool or table for her master (she is a 24/7 slave.) She has also been a coat rack for the company and ashtray.

I was there for the ashtray bit...It was very uncomfortable for me at least...because all of their guests had to act as though they she was not even there...hard for me because she was the reason I was there in the first place. I also have to admit at its core it was rather exciting...watching her being treated as less than human. I know it was an extremely difficult challenge for her. I think her Dom even struggled with it a bit...keeping it up and all.

She told me the hardest one for her to be was a toilet for her Master. *Cringes* I know...

Overall I think it could be a lot of fun for people with more experience in a D/s relationship or for people with this particular fetish...

It at least from what I have learned would be an extremely hard task....Not sure it would be one I would ever be up for though.

 

[myinnerslut]

i dont think i would describe it as hard to do. the difficult part for me is any pressure they gets put on my right shoulder, and when it gets too much i shift position, from my hands and knees to flat on my stomach perhaps. i have medical issues with my shoulder and in the spirit of "dont break your toys" this shift is perfectly alright and in fact advisable.

for me, being under his feet, as i often refer to footstool time, is a very powerful thing. it almost immediatly throws me into a service mindset and leaves me a very happy girl. i seem to fade out, in a way, kind of like subspace except i am still mentally present and jump to when given an oppurtuniy to serve. periods of time will pass while i stay still, content under his feet, happy to be serving. im not sure what one would call that. ive heard tales of slavespace before but never experienced it or talked about it so mabye this was that? or mabye not. it really akes no difference to me what one calls it, i just know it is a very satisfying experience for me and allows me to serve in a way that emphasizes my position in our relationship.

 

[ataxia.girl]

my problem with most of the "go be my footstool" scenarios is even if they are fairly spontenous they are still somewhat contrived and, in fact, done for the purpose of putting the bottom in a state of feeling like an object. This means the Top acknowledges from the outset that we are doing this whole thing because i know you are a subject but i want to make you feel like an object to assert my Dominance. That is cool and feels great but it doesn't tend to be the type of objectification that wets my panties.

To truly feel like an object the Top has to be in a space where that's exactly what you are to him. Walking through an airport or a bookstore i will sometimes get a little jolt when i catch an obviously successful man looking me over not because he wants to get to know me but simply because i am a nice "thing" to look at, a nice part of the scenery. Its different than when sitting at a bar and they are actively trying to overhear what you are saying to someone else, actively figuring out how they might pick me up.

The above scenario of being under the gaze of an anonymous man is not nearly as powerful as when i know a D well and have a connection with them and their own frame of mind suddenly shifts and i see in their eyes i just changed from person-they-are-attached-to to thing-for-their-pleasure. But they have to let themselves go there and feel that. Once they see me as merely an object i literally have no choice but to see myself as such. There is no action or scenario they must orchestrate to bring about some object-state in me.

When he looks at me in that way i know under no uncertain terms that no matter how many books i read, no matter how much money i make, no matter what social standing i attain or whatever else i accomplish there are times when the whim of his own mind, and dick, reduce me to just a piece of ass. This really only works well if i know the person and already have a bond with them. The reversal is crucial and felt more strongly the deeper the bond.

The Top has to let themselves feel it though; let themselves go to that dark place where she really is merely an object and once they are able to do that there would seem to be little effort required for the sub to feel the same.

 

[twysted73]

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The Top has to let themselves feel it though; let themselves go to that dark place where she really is merely an object and once they are able to do that there would seem to be little effort required for the sub to feel the same.

Thank you.

 

[unfoundiamond]

To you know who.

Oh shit.

Well this was nice you *hole.

My book too. Ew. That's yucky.

I have to go puke, wipe my milk off your face and learn you silly *itch.

Damn. **heaves**

And objects? What like a computer? Like a image?

Or like a person, a real living breathing F*in body to hold and F* for hours...

Yes, objectification, like when a person is so far and emotionless you equate them with a object.

Got it,

You know, if I sat around online all day I may have paragraphs and astericks to post and appear very longwinded and wise. (I met a "dom" like that once)

He was twisted, like me, but had no real life expirience, just online bibble babble.

(This post is directed and is recognized, no need to respond or repremand me, I am gone, just had to say)

You people remind me of that song, "Im cooler online"

Ah, you just had to with the book didn't you, *heaves*

 

[VelvetDarkness]

ive heard tales of slavespace before but never experienced it or talked about it so mabye this was that? or mabye not.

For me personally, the difference between sub and slavespace is fairly simple. In subspace, I zone out completely and become unresponsive. All my senses are heightened (but conscious thought ceases) and I ride off on multiply orgasmic waves of sensation. That's amazing and he does take me there but in subspace, I am too far gone to do anything other than lie there and be used by Master. I am effectively useless to him when in subspace.

Slavespace is a kind of heightened consciousness (whereas my physical senses are dulled) so that, instead of drifting off and leaving the world behind, I am anchored completely in the here and now. In slavespace I obey him immediately and without conscious thought or consent. I obey as unthinkingly as though I am an extension of his own body; an arm or a leg. I will climax on command but they are lighter, gentler orgasms that allow e to continue giving him my complete attention and service.

In both spaces, I don't really think on any level. Nothing exists beyond Master and whatever is happening. I am completely in the moment and have no notion of how much time may have passed. It is a kind of meditative state and very good for the submissive soul.

Sometimes I can become burdened by my slavery. We all have bad days and real life still throws spanners in the works and sometimes my lifestyle can seem more of a burden because as Master's slave, I sometimes bear the brunt of what is happening in his life as well as my own. When things have got flat and tiresome between us, this kind of intense stuff binds us together again and reminds us why we go to the trouble of being as deviant as we are despite the world's total lack of understanding at times. It reminds us both what we really mean to each other and just how close our M/s dynamic has made us.

 

[JMohegan]

I have a good friend who was been exploring the world of BDSM far longer than me...she is a sub and loves objectification play...I saw this post on here the other day and asked her about it.

She claims it is the hardest thing for her to do...but she also feel like it is her greatest accomplishment as a sub. She is often a footstool or table for her master (she is a 24/7 slave.) She has also been a coat rack for the company and ashtray.

I was there for the ashtray bit...It was very uncomfortable for me at least...because all of their guests had to act as though they she was not even there...hard for me because she was the reason I was there in the first place. I also have to admit at its core it was rather exciting...watching her being treated as less than human. I know it was an extremely difficult challenge for her. I think her Dom even struggled with it a bit...keeping it up and all.

She told me the hardest one for her to be was a toilet for her Master. *Cringes* I know...

Overall I think it could be a lot of fun for people with more experience in a D/s relationship or for people with this particular fetish...

It at least from what I have learned would be an extremely hard task....Not sure it would be one I would ever be up for though.

You don't have to do this the hard-core way. Lower case o "objectification" serves as a wonderful outlet for my playful streak.

Tell her to pose as an inanimate object. Consequences for a lapse in position! Then deliberately try to distract her, make her laugh, whatever. This is a lot of fun for me.

 

[the captians wench]

There are all sorts of other scenarios, but those are ones I've actually used and enjoyed. They don't really have to be complex things. It is, for me at least, more of hanging out and being close without really being active, and is thus a great way to recuperate from more energetic activities.

This is what I think does it for me.

I was telling Jounar about a dream I had not too long ago. It involved something he said to me oh gosh months and months ago. He said he wanted to use me as his ashtray. The idea he originally had in mind, I believe, was a lot more complicated than my dream.

The dream was simple. We were laying in bed, watching a movie or something. I was laying on my stomach with my head towards his feet. My knees were bent and legs leaning up against the headboard. He was sitting up, his back resting against the headboard. This put the small of my back right at his reach, so while he smoked he would very casually tap his ciggy ashes into that cup naturally made by the small of my back resting in that position. I would lovingly rub my head against his leg, or kiss his knee from time to time, but over all it was just very casual. Sort of had the same feel as when my ex and I would curl on the couch and watch movies.

The reason I'm so inlove with that dream, has little to do with me having ashes stored on my back, and everything to do with the casual intimacy displayed.

 

[ataxia.girl]

The dream was simple. We were laying in bed, watching a movie or something. I was laying on my stomach with my head towards his feet. My knees were bent and legs leaning up against the headboard. He was sitting up, his back resting against the headboard. This put the small of my back right at his reach, so while he smoked he would very casually tap his ciggy ashes into that cup naturally made by the small of my back resting in that position. I would lovingly rub my head against his leg, or kiss his knee from time to time, but over all it was just very casual. Sort of had the same feel as when my ex and I would curl on the couch and watch movies.

The reason I'm so inlove with that dream, has little to do with me having ashes stored on my back, and everything to do with the casual intimacy displayed.

That is a lovely dream!

 

[FFOTS4Life]

You don't have to do this the hard-core way. Lower case o "objectification" serves as a wonderful outlet for my playful streak.

Tell her to pose as an inanimate object. Consequences for a lapse in position! Then deliberately try to distract her, make her laugh, whatever. This is a lot of fun for me.

See...that sounds fun... I would be up for it if the experience was more like this. My friend however has been with her Dom for six years and everything they do is hard-core...truth be told that is what they enjoy.

Thanks for the suggestion though.

 

[JMohegan]

See...that sounds fun... I would be up for it if the experience was more like this. My friend however has been with her Dom for six years and everything they do is hard-core...truth be told that is what they enjoy.

Thanks for the suggestion though.

My shorthand syntax was clearly misleading! I should have written: "I enjoy telling a woman to pose...." etc.

I didn't mean that you should suggest this to your friend. I was writing it for your benefit, since you said you didn't think you'd be up for objectification. Just throwing out ideas for a different type of fun.

 

[FFOTS4Life]

My shorthand syntax was clearly misleading! I should have written: "I enjoy telling a woman to pose...." etc.

I didn't mean that you should suggest this to your friend. I was writing it for your benefit, since you said you didn't think you'd be up for objectification. Just throwing out ideas for a different type of fun.

LOL...sorry for the misunderstanding....it does sound fun...Sir I hope you are reading this....

 

[Netzach]

Bondage hoods and things help me immensely with this. Take away the face and it's just natural, really, I don't have a second thought without the visual.

 

[myinnerslut]

Bondage hoods and things help me immensely with this. Take away the face and it's just natural, really, I don't have a second thought without the visual.

that concept reminds me of a fantasy i had about an auction. in the fantasy the girl was put through a hole on the wall so that only he legs, ass, and lower back were exposed. the bidders the had a chance to test the responiveness of the girl without having to deal with her as person. she was simply an ass with a number attatched so she could be identified.

this fantasy was enacted and as part of it, i was put through a wall so that i could be tested for responsivness by the biders. it was a very objectifying experience to hear myself talked about by number not name, to hear my physical attibutes debated. with my face on the opposite side of the wall, it was easy to look at my backside without thinking about the full person. at one point the bidders wished to see how my ass reddened and began to test it, only interested in my ass, not the rest of me. very hot night for all involved.

 

[DreamSensualist]

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[Homburg]

this fantasy was enacted and as part of it, i was put through a wall so that i could be tested for responsivness by the biders. it was a very objectifying experience to hear myself talked about by number not name, to hear my physical attibutes debated. with my face on the opposite side of the wall, it was easy to look at my backside without thinking about the full person. at one point the bidders wished to see how my ass reddened and began to test it, only interested in my ass, not the rest of me.

Carpentry + perversion = hot objectification

This was a fun time. I need to set up that wall again some time. I can certainly see the appeal, though I am not one for hoods. This was a situation where the face was removed from sight, and she really did become an ass with no person attached. I hadn't thought about it from an objectification standpoint as it was not the goal of that scene, but it does fit.

 

[twysted73]

enjoyable.........utterly.

 

[rida]

I've found this thread very interesting and wanted to add a, perhaps, different example of objectification.

The scenarios described so far are all played out withing the frame of an established committed emotional (although LD in many cases) relationship. A dynamic where the pyl is also loved and cared for.

As MIS said, one of the appeal for the pyl in such a relationship is that it reinforces her power position within the relationship; objectification puts her in the place she belong: subordinate, to serve, for his convenience and pleasure.

I would like to describe the feeling of objectification, within a totally different dynamic.

I've been seeing a Sadist in the last few months.

The dynamic is such at the moment that the exchanges between plays are, on his part very brief and to the point with the scope to assess where I stand after the previous play and set a date for the following encounter. We always start out as a nice conventional date even thou little words and actions here and there quickly put me in my place. When we get to the play place, I've not been allowed, so far, to look at him. The play is all about what He wants, taking what He wants and getting what He wants. It has nothing to do with me and what I want; my pleasure is nowhere in the picture. It makes me feel as all I am is just a willing body, that all the value that there is to me is how well I satisfy His desires. He will indulge me when He is done, but it still feels like the way you would care of a possession that you wish to be able to use again: even aftercare is somewhat objectifying.

Part of me wishes to develop a closer relationship and felt at first put of by the distance and shortness. And especially while going through sub-drop I am desperate for more closeness, more emotions, more attention, and He has made it clear that He is interested to here my thoughts (they are honestly in no form to be communicated at the time) and be there for me within the limits of his time.

But the fact is that, as soon as I regain my balance, I keep the distance myself. Part of me, I discovered, is totally enjoying this feeling of being just a willing body, something that you can and will replace if it does not work or perform as expected, something that you turn to when you need to scratch a hitch.

I know that the longer we interact, deeper connections will develop and this feeling of just being a body without identity will slowly fade. I wish before that happens to experience how it would feel to skip the friendly drinks before play and the down time afterward and go straight to play and than have him pack up and leave while I straighten up the room ...

 

[Netzach]

Carpentry + perversion = hot objectification

This was a fun time. I need to set up that wall again some time. I can certainly see the appeal, though I am not one for hoods. This was a situation where the face was removed from sight, and she really did become an ass with no person attached. I hadn't thought about it from an objectification standpoint as it was not the goal of that scene, but it does fit.

Uh, you guys.

First of all that is effing hot. I am going to be fantasizing about the lower half of a femme sticking out of a wall now for days.

Second of all - people tell me MY bondage is elaborate, ha.