Obama's speech on race

[MeeMie]

Oh, it's well established:

er.

Oops.

None so blind as those who have no head:


Obama Attended Hate America Sermon

Sunday, March 16, 2008 7:14 PM


Obama claims he was completely unaware that the Reverend Wright’s trademark preaching style at the Trinity United Church of Christ targeted “white” America.

Clarification: The Obama campaign has told members of the press that Senator Obama was not in church on the day cited, July 22, because he had a speech he gave in Miami at 1:30 PM.

Writer, Jim Davis, says he attended several services at Senator Obama's church during the month of July, including July 22. The church holds services three times every Sunday at 7:30 and 11 a.m. and 6 p.m. Central time. While both the early morning and evening service allowed Sen. Obama to attend the service and still give a speech in Miami, Mr. Davis stands by his story that during one of the services he attended during the month of July, Senator Obama was present and sat through the sermon given by Rev. Wright as described in the story.

Mr. Davis said Secret Service were also present in the church during Senator Obama's attendance.


Why do you think that Obama changed his answer to "yes" today?
It is well documented by several sources that cannot be impugned. Looks like you haven't done your homework.

 

[HB1965]

Oh, they will believe what they want to believe. I'm convinced that all the Wright matter has done is provide new ammo for those who were never voting for him anyway. And the fact that it's a racial issue makes it perfect.

Anyone else see the irony that the GB's most notorious lifter of other people's words, and in many cases entire articles, is complaining about Obama being a plagiarist?

Yes I did in fact.

You beat me to the punch

 

[busybody..]

None so blind as those who have no head:


Obama Attended Hate America Sermon

Sunday, March 16, 2008 7:14 PM

.

This guy sounds like ME

I LOVE THIS GUY

Of course,the LIB FREAKAZOIDS will soon enough IGGY him as well

 

[HB1965]

None so blind as those who have no head:


Obama Attended Hate America Sermon

Sunday, March 16, 2008 7:14 PM


Obama claims he was completely unaware that the Reverend Wright’s trademark preaching style at the Trinity United Church of Christ targeted “white” America.

Clarification: The Obama campaign has told members of the press that Senator Obama was not in church on the day cited, July 22, because he had a speech he gave in Miami at 1:30 PM.

Writer, Jim Davis, says he attended several services at Senator Obama's church during the month of July, including July 22. The church holds services three times every Sunday at 7:30 and 11 a.m. and 6 p.m. Central time. While both the early morning and evening service allowed Sen. Obama to attend the service and still give a speech in Miami, Mr. Davis stands by his story that during one of the services he attended during the month of July, Senator Obama was present and sat through the sermon given by Rev. Wright as described in the story.

Mr. Davis said Secret Service were also present in the church during Senator Obama's attendance.


Why do you think that Obama changed his answer to "yes" today?
It is well documented by several sources that cannot be impugned. Looks like you haven't done your homework.

I see only one. Not several

 

[breakwall]

None so blind as those who have no head
Why do you think that Obama changed his answer to "yes" today?
It is well documented by several sources that cannot be impugned. Looks like you haven't done your homework.

Looks like you lifted Newsmax's murky "clarification" directly from their inaccurate story from yesterday.

I do my homework.

 

[Wok]

Whacky Won

It will show he sees WRIGHT and WRONG and will stand up against it!

Does not matter BB. He can distance himself all he wants from this, and the ammo will still be there. This is not good for his campaign. I do not care if the candidate is white, black, brown, yellow or whatever. His attendance soured me. I do not care if he slept or missed the sermons. The info was all there.

 

[MeeMie]

Looks like you lifted Newsmax's murky "clarification" directly from their inaccurate story from yesterday.

I do my homework.

You do like hell.

I quoted the article that you brought into question, as the author clarified his statements.

 

[busybody..]

I LOVE WHACKY WON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Queersetti]

Racists are going to find an "acceptable" reason to oppose Obama. If it isn't Wright, it will be something else. I'd prefer they just be honest, but that's not going to happen.

 

[Wok]

I LOVE WHACKY WON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Not so fast. McCain's endorsements are not that great either.

 

[phrodeau]

Does not matter BB. He can distance himself all he wants from this, and the ammo will still be there. This is not good for his campaign. I do not care if the candidate is white, black, brown, yellow or whatever. His attendance soured me. I do not care if he slept or missed the sermons. The info was all there.

Why would you deny someone the freedom to attend the church of their choice?

 

[busybody..]

Not so fast. McCain's endorsements are not that great either.

 

[Wok]

Why would you deny someone the freedom to attend the church of their choice?

Where did I say about his freedom to attend? I can care less where he attends. Does that mean it takes the ammo away against his campaign? Does this mean people will stop voting for him? No. People can vote for whomever they want. That is not for me to decide. This is just my personal view, and again, his attendance soured me.

 

[breakwall]

You do like hell.

I quoted the article that you brought into question, as the author clarified his statements.

Here's some homework.

The original article citing that Obama attended the sermon in question was written by William Kristol in the NYT.

Please ensure that you read his retraction at the beginning of the article.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/17/opinion/17kristol.html?_r=1&ref=opinion&oref=slogin

 

[Queersetti]

Not so fast. McCain's endorsements are not that great either.

There is a fundamental difference between Obama and McCain in this regard. Obama is being criticized because his long time pastor made offensive and bigoted remarks. McCain knowingly sought out religious leaders who he knew had made remarks at least as offensive as anything Wright said, and actively courted their support. Any guilt by association assigned to Obama via Wright pales next to that due McCain in regard to Hagee, Parsley, et al.

 

[busybody..]

New Black Panther Party Supports Obama?

It looks like Mr. Obama has another “crazy uncle” in his attic:





Apparently anyone can join the MyBarackObama network and create their own page.

And certainly no candidate can handpick who his supporters are. But does he have to allow them to advertise on his website?

Or maybe Mr. Obama has not heard the “New Black Panthers” say anything untoward.

Or perhaps he thinks we need to understand where they are coming from.

 

[busybody..]

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/17/opinion/17kristol.html?_r=1&ref=opinion&oref=slogin

the TIMES hasnt even mentioned Wright story at all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

why would ANYONE read that rag?

 

[breakwall]

the TIMES hasnt even mentioned Wright story at all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

why would ANYONE read that rag?

Well, that's a completely different topic.
I heard you had a subscription to the Washington Post.

 

[Wrong Element]

the TIMES hasnt even mentioned Wright story at all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

why would ANYONE read that rag?

http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/w/jeremiah_a_wright_jr/index.html?8qa&scp=1-spot&sq=jeremiah+wright&st=nyt

That took me 30 seconds.

Idiot.

 

[busybody..]

http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/w/jeremiah_a_wright_jr/index.html?8qa&scp=1-spot&sq=jeremiah+wright&st=nyt

That took me 30 seconds.

Idiot.

I stand corrected

The TIMES has NOT mentioned the VILE comments Wright has made

INCLUDING

God damn America!

 

[Wok]

There is a fundamental difference between Obama and McCain in this regard. Obama is being criticized because his long time pastor made offensive and bigoted remarks. McCain knowingly sought out religious leaders who he knew had made remarks at least as offensive as anything Wright said, and actively courted their support. Any guilt by association assigned to Obama via Wright pales next to that due McCain in regard to Hagee, Parsley, et al.

Right, and that is just as crappy.

 

[busybody..]

Speaking of "God damn America," if you read only the New York Times — if that were your only source of news — you might not even know that Wright had uttered those words. A Nexis search shows that the only place Rev. Wright's "God damn America" proclamation has been reported in the Times was in Bill Kristol's column yesterday. That column was noticed mostly for a factual error — Kristol repeated a claim from an inaccurate NewsMax report — but as serious as that was, it seems that Times readers should at least thank Bill for telling them what the news pages would not.


regarding what The New York Times isn't prepared to tell its readers, Jodi Kantor (the Times reporter covering the Obama story) does use the phrase "God damn America" in this report in The International Herald Tribune (in effect, the Times' overseas edition) Yet, , the phrase appears in none of Kantor's stories for the Times itself. Strange. Is the IHT now the director's cut of the NYT?

 

[busybody..]

Right, and that is just as crappy.

what OTHER religious leaders that Mc has sought

said EQUALLY OFFENSIVE shit?

Ask the DISEASED DICK DANGLER

as a DDD, I dont believe a word he says

 

[Wok]

Speaking of "God damn America," if you read only the New York Times — if that were your only source of news — you might not even know that Wright had uttered those words. A Nexis search shows that the only place Rev. Wright's "God damn America" proclamation has been reported in the Times was in Bill Kristol's column yesterday. That column was noticed mostly for a factual error — Kristol repeated a claim from an inaccurate NewsMax report — but as serious as that was, it seems that Times readers should at least thank Bill for telling them what the news pages would not.


regarding what The New York Times isn't prepared to tell its readers, Jodi Kantor (the Times reporter covering the Obama story) does use the phrase "God damn America" in this report in The International Herald Tribune (in effect, the Times' overseas edition) Yet, , the phrase appears in none of Kantor's stories for the Times itself. Strange. Is the IHT now the director's cut of the NYT?

That's what we have you for, right? We get all the c+p's.

 

[Queersetti]

Right, and that is just as crappy.

I don't believe it is "just as crappy". Obama had a pre-existing relationship with Wright before he stated his offensive views. McCain sought to establish a relationship with people whose opinions were already well known. In addition, Obama has denounced Wright's remarks, McCain refuses to address the bigotry of his supporters, merely stating that he doesn't always agree with them.

I am not saying that you are wrong to be troubled by the Obama-Wright situation, but I believe that McCain's ties to bigoted religious leaders is a much more egregious situation.