Nude Day 2011 Contest Support Thread

[Boxlicker101]

So far, I have two entries, and expect to post two more. Three of them will probably be in the middle of the pack, which is what usually happens, and the other will contend for the coveted Last Place (tm) award.

Now, I gotta get busy on those last two stories.

 

[Darkniciad]

Just think of the troll votes you have so far as camouflage from the rest of the trolls.

That actually does happen, and it's why minimum or barely above minimum vote stories will sometimes win the contests.

Trolls are like any other vandal. If they're wandering around looking for something to destroy, and somebody has already beaten them to it, there's no fun in messing it up any more. They move on down the street and throw rocks through somebody else's windows. If they're resorting to flinging dog poo at the side of a place where all the windows are already broken, you can bet your ass they had a personal reason for hitting that house.

If a low vote story gets bombed a couple of times, it falls off the troll radar, and becomes less visible to regular readers. Then the sweeps come through, wipe out those couple of low votes, and the story vaults up into the top spot.

People ( and I use that term loosely in many cases ) like to bitch about low vote stories winning, but it's not some conspiracy by the site, or the author, or anybody else. It's just troll nature combined with the website's efforts to counteract it. If anybody's at fault, it's the trolls for bombing the story into oblivion before regular readers ( who might have voted 3-4 and dropped the rating ) could find it.

Real life example:

Me and a couple of my buddies used to toilet paper our own houses around Halloween. We hung it artfully, using the old pink, white, and blue Charmin they used to make so that the dew turned it red white and blue *laugh* Charmin holds up to the elements fairly well, so it would survive through a couple of nights, weather permitting. It was everywhere, but there was a critical difference to someone doing it as a prank: We'd hung it in such a way that you could tear it down in just a few minutes, with only a few shreds here and there to show for it.

Our windows never got soaped. Nobody broke our pumpkins, or anything else. Somebody had "beat them to it", so they moved on to the neighbor's houses. Then the morning after Halloween, we spent a half hour tearing it down and bagging it up while the neighbors spent half a day scraping parafin off their windows.

Sure made the cops stop and scratch their heads when they saw us doing it in broad daylight, though.

I also used to 4-bomb any story of mine that picked up 9 votes of 5. A perfect 5 score making the toplist was an open invitation for half a dozen 1s. Dropping it to 4.90 with my 4 vote put it on the outer edges of the troll radar, but left it in a position to still attract readers.

 

[TxRad]

I don't have to worry about troll bombing my own stories, I have one already that drops three 3's on every story I post the minute it posts.

Anyone want to guess who it is?

 

[Darkniciad]

I don't have to worry about troll bombing my own stories, I have one already that drops three 3's on every story I post the minute it posts.

Anyone want to guess who it is?

*Laugh* I was a new writer in a niche category that developed just enough of a loyal following to pick up 10-12 5s fairly quickly.

Now, with the new scoring system, the changes in the toplists, and a larger following, the self-inflicted injury is no longer necessary.

 

[SuperHeroRalph]

Sometimes we all must bite the bullet and pay homage to the one great man, the most talented writer on this site. No, I'm not talking about myself, I'm talking about the one, the only, the great, Sir Scouries.

Below is the link to the story that I wrote to honor the man. It's a true account of his life story. It's a touching love story about a man and his (ahem) woman (lol).

The link to the story is below.

http://www.literotica.com/s/nude-day-every-day-is-nude-day

 

[LunaEroticaMystica]

Helpful advice, DG Hear.

DARK, great analogy and clever preemptive move with the toilet paper. How are you? Did your story ever take off?

I've picked up a few more votes and reads on my other stories, as well. I never really paid attention to that before, so it was nice to see. No new comments on those stories, but didn't really expect any after the fact.

My winter holiday "Wynter of Contentment" story, "Shifting Illuminations," "TLC," and my chronic pain story "Rain Pixie" each picked some up. That one is probably my most personal. The former three picked up more than one each. Brainstorming Summer Lovin'.

 

[scouries]

http://www.buckaroosfunnypictures.com/files/piks/uglybaby.jpg
superheroralphie

what came first – the chicken or superheroralphie?

the things I miss by having scouries on iggy. I suppose the chicken comment refers to me? What can I say; I like animals that live in hen houses and have high chicken-to-cock ratios…And if you're going to say something, you can at least include some sort of "why is the chicken crossing the road" comment. Geesh. What do I have to do get a bad joke around here?

Oh, and I took that pic. No need for google.

I didn’t know it was somebody’s avatar! Promise. I probably should have guessed given all the other avatars present.

But I just thought it was one of those inexplicable, random internet things and thought it was totally appropriate given whose image page it was. And the chicken doesn’t seem to be crossing the road; instead it, much like our superhero, seems to be aimlessly walking down the middle of it. Lost. Unable to find the other side…like his stories – unedited and almost always incomplete…

Now ralphie, admit it, you liked your google image page didn’t you?

And what does 75B4 refer to?

And can someone explain why little ralphies picture page have so much darkboy junk? I mean just about everyone else is represented by just their avatar – heck we got the doc, oggman, miss sin, killer, owlman, tio, 2 dixies, the talking writer, miss odious, sourwitch, and even the unmentionable one(?).

But our boy darkie has his avatar, some of his fake graphs, his name 2 or 3 times, even the covers from some of his awful woods books on ralphies page. I always guessed there was some connection between the two – can anyone spell ALT? No, not you tex, we don’t want to tax your brain too much this early in the day by having you try to spell 3 letter words.

I think though that it’s the last line of pics that is the best one – look who’s there! The girl in the snow, then the girl with the greatest puffies of all time, then our missing SURVIVOR contest moderator lauren h (no wonder we couldn't find her - she was hiding here), then ralphies nemesis followed by the brilliant boxman (although he seems to be trying to emulate his survivor partner with all his promised nude day entries – lets just hope that the quality of his stories don’t fall to ralphian depths) and then of course there’s yours truly – finally bringing a little class to this page.

I'm more than happy to help…​

[size=+2]james r scouries esq.[/size]
Multiple A.I.R. AWARD winner, MILLION SELLER,
Author of the MOST COMMENTED on
and the MOST VOTED on story on LITEROTICA

km on sir scouries: You're an intelligent person with an ability to articulate your deep thinking. To semi-quote Kurt Hummel, I hope you don't mind me being honest with you because it comes from a place of respect. …of course she was on crack when she wrote the above…

 

[AlwaysHungry]

That actually does happen, and it's why minimum or barely above minimum vote stories will sometimes win the contests...

If a low vote story gets bombed a couple of times, it falls off the troll radar, and becomes less visible to regular readers. Then the sweeps come through, wipe out those couple of low votes, and the story vaults up into the top spot.

Would it make sense to "weight" the scores of entries that have high numbers of votes, so that 150 "4" votes would be worth more than 30 "4" votes?

 

[TxRad]

Would it make sense to "weight" the scores of entries that have high numbers of votes, so that 150 "4" votes would be worth more than 30 "4" votes?

Then you would have everyone writing in the Incest category and no one in a lot of the other categories.

 

[Boxlicker101]

Would it make sense to "weight" the scores of entries that have high numbers of votes, so that 150 "4" votes would be worth more than 30 "4" votes?

They already do that to a limited degree. If the scores of two stories are tied, the one having the most votes is ranked ahead of the other. Of course, that's just a tie-breaker. A story with 25 votes and an average of 4.80 would win over a story with 1,000 votes and an average of 4.79.

An oddity, though. The scores are carried out to two decimal places so a story having a score of 4.8045 and 25 votes would lose to a story having 4.795 and 26 votes.

 

[Boxlicker101]

Then you would have everyone writing in the Incest category and no one in a lot of the other categories.

That's true. I have one story in the First Time category, which is quite a popular category, and the story has over 400 votes. My earlier entry is an essay and has only 8 votes. I expect this one to win the last place (tm) prize.

 

[DG Hear]

I probably get as many votes as most writers here on Lit. The way I see it is we have a place to post our stories free of charge. The contests give writers an extra boost, a reason to write a story and a longer posting period in which to be read.

I get a lot of votes both negative and positive. It does make it harder to win a contest but I would prefer the readers and the votes to having less readers and less votes just so I could win a contest.

One suggestion is simply increase the minimum vote to say fifty (just a random number) That way any stories with less then the given amount of votes wouldn't qualify.

I don't expect to win when I enter a contest. As I have said before, I do it for the quick posting and the fun of being a part of the contest.

I have two stories in the contest. Both in the 4.40+ range. One has 891 votes and the other 570. So I'm no threat to anyone and I sit back and enjoy the roller coaster ride.

Good luck all
DG

 

[sr71plt]

I probably get as many votes as most writers here on Lit.

Negative. You probably get more votes than most everyone else posting to Lit. gets--combined.

 

[Darkniciad]

Would it make sense to "weight" the scores of entries that have high numbers of votes, so that 150 "4" votes would be worth more than 30 "4" votes?

All that would accomplish is that Incest and LW would win everything by default. Despite much angst and screaming about GM, Sci-Fi, Non-Human, etc. placing in contests, there's actually far more variety than a score/vote total system would generate.

Those two categories generate such a disproportionate number of votes per story that it would be impossible for any other category to compete. The contests would end up filled completely with those two categories, save a few outliers.

As it stands, some categories have advantages and disadvantages, but it's possible for nearly any category to place ( as a review of past winners shows ). Certain contests lend themselves to certain categories as well. There's obviously a Horror bias for Halloween, an E&V bias for Nude Day, etc.

LW is probably the one exception because of the incredible amount of hate voting going on there ( which doesn't always get swept because of the way one of the sweeps seems to work ) Pulling off that hat-trick would require someone with an incredible reader base, an excellent story, and a hella lot a luck. DG Hear is probably one of the few who could manage it.

 

[LunaEroticaMystica]

Trolls are out in full force today. Anyone else notice?

 

[TxRad]

Trolls are out in full force today. Anyone else notice?

Does a score that looks like a yo-yo count?

 

[kromen]

Trolls are out in full force today. Anyone else notice?

No, but my reply alone is a beacon call. I'll get hit soon enough.

 

[AlwaysHungry]

You know, it never occured to me that the category would play a big role in the voting. I chose "interracial" even though other categories could have applied. I thought that the pool of voters was drawn mainly from the contest announcement. The interracial element of my story is quite minor, and may be a disappointment from people who expect to be aroused by interracial mingling.

I think that contest entries should be a special category, separate from the normal category process.

 

[kromen]

I shot myself in the foot, one Winter contest, with a humor/satire story. Barely qualified in the votes. I didn't win the last place contest, but I knew it was hovering.

 

[bashfullyshameless]

Pull & Revise

So I think I'm gonna pull my story, and probably go through it with revisions.

I got a private feedback letter that helped me see that it comes off as much darker and more problematic than I intended, or at least that it can be easily read that way. There are a few elements in it that weren't so much me trying to be kinky/racy as a writer as they were me trying to be expedient.

Ultimately I gave myself a little under a week to write for this contest, because I'm hoping to push on with doing more novels & marketable stuff with my time. I rushed this, and I don't think I put out as good a product as I could as a result. I think I could fix a lot of this given another day's work, and I owe it to myself & to readers to put out that effort.

Thing is -- I have no idea whether I'm better off pulling it entirely and resubmitting it, thereby starting fresh, or if I should leave it on and submit a revised version to slip in under the same name. I suspect it's more honest to start fresh, since I think there'd be some fundamental differences to the story.

Honestly, given that this is the whole contest deal, I think I'm just a little concerned about which option is cheesier than the other. I'm not really all that hopeful of winning. I'm more concerned about being a good sport.

 

[LunaEroticaMystica]

TxRad, I'm sure it does.

Bashfullyshameless: There have been authors that edited all the way up until the last day. I remember one author changing their ending completely. It's allowed. So, really it is up to you which way you want to go with it. If you remove completely, you will lose votes, comments, scores, hot factor, favorites, etc.... If you leave it and just edit it, you will maintain all of that. You could always leave a comment under your story explaining your feelings and your changes. You've already got quite a few of each. If it were me, I'd just edit and resubmit. You might disappoint those who already favorited you. Good luck with your decision.

Kromen: What do you mean about your response?

AlwaysHungry: Category is one of the trickiest things to navigate here, especially when you have options of where to place the story. This board is helpful for advice on that.

 

[kromen]

Luna: I know are trolls that like to pick certain writers out of thin air to one-bomb, and sometimes they find the person who may voice an opinion that they may not care for and try to decimate their score. I've had my score drop twice last week, but it's been climbing back up to a respectable mid-4. Don't mind my paranoia, lack of sleep does it every time. Did I tell you how much I liked your entry?

 

[LunaEroticaMystica]

Kromen: Oh you meant here on the boards. I thought you meant on your actual story. True. Oopsy. Yup, lack of sleep here too! You did and I responded to your comment. I used to respond individually/privately, but easier to just respond under the comments. I really appreciate the feedback you gave me. Your comment summed it up so nicely: "Fight to become a woman again." Would have made a great tag line. I have to get moving on reading the entries. I'll leave you a comment for you once I do.

 

[kromen]

Wow. The Mod Gods have smiled upon me. I decided to enter at least one more tale into the contest, on a whim, and in less than 12 hours since submission it has posted.

http://www.literotica.com/s/my-next-door-neighbor-3

I'm leaving it at no more than two entries. Anymore, and I'll just dilute the product.

 

[LunaEroticaMystica]

Nice!