Nucular vs Nuclear

[Topher]

calling me nieve, because I don't agree with you is a perfect example of argumenta ad hominem

I knew that when I typed it, but I don't think it is quite in the same league as what I said to kitty, for example. It is more of a criticism on your thinking on the question at hand than a slam on your native composition. If I had said "you believe that because you are an idiot" then that would have been more egregious.

And, btw, it's argumentum ad hominem. I was using the plural above.

 

[just pet]

is this a snow job?

The man's a well connected dumb ass member of the lucky sperm club

I love this

Can I quote you?

nieve?http://www.vtr.net/~gaz/gra/de%20paja%20y%20nieve.jpg

 

[JazzManJim]

What is the median score for someone entering Yale?

Any trained monkey can score well on those tests. Bush did go to one of the most prestigious boy's schools in the US (forget the name).

My ACT translates to an SAT 1470. Where was my Yale acceptance letter (to be fair I didn't bother applying).

You've answered your own question. The President applied and you did not.

You made the point that the President is an imbicile. I've proven that he was, insofar as the SAT measures intelligence, above the median at the same age as college freshmen in 2002.

I've further asserted that the nearly unanimous opinion among those who have spent appreciable time with the President is that he is intelligent.

Lastly, I assert that his policies favor long-term gain over short term gain, despite considerable political pressure to the contrary. Delayed gratification is a hallmark of intelligent and critical thought, as well as emotional maturity.

You've yet to disprove either of my first two points and you can not disprove my third. In fact, what you have demonstrated here is that you will cling to a premise despite concrete evidence to the contrary, which is in no way a sign of mature critical thought.

 

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[Topher]

He received a bachelor's degree from Yale University in 1968,

Already addressed

then served as an F-102 fighter pilot in the Texas Air National Guard.

as a result of his family's pulling strings in order to get him out of having to go to Vietnam.

President Bush received a Master of Business Administration from Harvard Business School in 1975. After graduating, he moved back to Midland and began a career in the energy business. After working on his father's successful 1988 presidential campaign, he assembled the group of partners that purchased the Texas Rangers baseball franchise in 1989.

All due way more to familial connections than to any talent on Bush's part. He is the scion of an very influential American family. Yes, he is educated, but he is not a scholar. Frankly I expect a little respect for knowledge in my president. This one made a mockery of all the advantages that were given to him as a result of his birth.

 

[Topher]

Maybe I should have put it in quotes. I was using it sarcastically. No, calling me Nieve was a slam. You don't know shit about me and how I think, so don't call me nieve.

You just don't like when someone disagrees with you.

I know that you don't know how to spell "naïve". Sorry, I suppose that was petty, but you can only judge what you see here. I'm not going to be afraid to state my opinion because I am afraid of hurting someone's feelings when I disagree with him.

No, I don't like it when someone disagrees with me. Apparently you don't like it either. Wow, we are both human.

 

[Mellon Collie]

Let me ask you a question. What is the median SAT for an applicant entering college?

In 2002, it was 1020.

Any idea what the President's SAT score was when he entered Yale?

It was 1206.

That score and that his father also attended Yale was quite enough to gain him entry.

How was is possible for him to have a 1206?

I was under the impression that the scores are in increments of ten.

 

[just pet]

How was is possible for him to have a 1206?

I was under the impression that the scores are in increments of ten.

The score is in base 8

silly girl

 

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[Mellon Collie]

The score is in base 8

silly girl

No, I was right, it's scored in increments of 10.

"The exam is divided in two parts, verbal and mathematics, each of which are scored on a scale from 200 to 800 in increments of 10."

From: http://rvgs.k12.va.us/faculty/jdrewry/aps/labs/StateoftheSAT.htm

And just for good measure, it also says so here: http://www.testmasters.com/default.asp?item=35

I don't see how he could have a score of 1206.

 

[Topher]

You've answered your own question. The President applied and you did not.

Oh please! Even had I been accepted, this son of a firefighter captain could not have hoped to have paid the tuition. Sure, there actually was a good chance that I would have been accepted. I wouldn't have been able to attend unless some rich benefactor had paid for it though. You still haven't refuted the assertion that wealth and privileDge were the primary factors in his educational course.


You made the point that the President is an imbicile.

No, I did not make the point that the President is an imbecile. However, I did make the claim that he is. To prove it either way would require far more research and citations than I assume either of us is willing to put the effort into.

To clarify, what I mean by that is that I expect his intelligence to be at or slightly below the national average. Of course he is not a technical imbecile (what is that? IQ 60?), but he isn't very bright by my estimation. I expect more from the President.

I've proven that he was, insofar as the SAT measures intelligence, above the median at the same age as college freshmen in 2002.

But you said nothing of Ivy League freshman, which would have been a more valid comparison.

I'm just saying that proper training can turn a 1000 SAT into a 1200 one. What was the average SAT score for his fellow (what is it? Andover something?) graduates?

I've further asserted that the nearly unanimous opinion among those who have spent appreciable time with the President is that he is intelligent.

Hearsay.

Lastly, I assert that his policies favor long-term gain over short term gain, despite considerable political pressure to the contrary. Delayed gratification is a hallmark of intelligent and critical thought, as well as emotional maturity.

His administration has shown that it can forestall short-term gain. I don't think someone who can't delay his gratification long enough to wait until he is not in danger of being around hot microphones before calling someone an "asshole" is demostrating emotional maturity by your definition.


You've yet to disprove either of my first two points and you can not disprove my third. In fact, what you have demonstrated here is that you will cling to a premise despite concrete evidence to the contrary, which is in no way a sign of mature critical thought.

If you seriously think that you have offered "concrete evidence" of anything then I question your critical thinking skills.

 

[Topher]

I thought there was a 'd' in privilege twice. How embarrassing. Well, I guess that is what comes of not having it.

 

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[Topher]

I know this, I checked it [/B]

Come back to me when you get a perfect score on a language-use section of a standardized test:

https://forum.literotica.com/attachment.php?s=&postid=4336863

 

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[Topher]

No, I just realize that I don't have it easy.

"My education message will resignate amongst all parents." - Shrub

 

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[Topher]

Thats paper means nothing to me. What does is you make simple English and grammar mistakes all the time.

Use that score you have, put it to work

That (peice of?) paper means nothing to me. What does mean something to me is that you make simple mistakes of English grammar all the time. [I think you meant to say spelling, however.]

Use that score you have; [or .] put it to work.

Yes, I do occasionally make mistakes in spelling, and I also make typographical errors from time to time. I am usually a very good speller; I just had the misfortune of employing a word with which I obviously had a problem.

However, I think it would be rather difficult to claim that my language use is especially unpolished in comparison to that of the majority of the posters to this forum.

 

[estevie]

*chuckles*

Do you 2 realize you have argued over spelling and grammar for the last 3 pages?


Here's my opinion.

There is no reason to speak or spell incorrectly. Look it up.

 

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[Topher]

Everybody else has it easy? And you don't?

You are claiming to be Mr. Intelligent, yet you make sinple English mistakes. If indeed those are you scores, use your English scores.

Most don't have it easy, but few sit around wallowing in self pity like you.

So far I have misspelled "privilege" and I have been accused of violating an obscure and very formal rule regarding the use of the word "both" with an adjective which someone took to be a noun (i.e. "human").

I didn't really think about it at the time, but the person who called that an error is wrong. One does not say "we are both talls." Somewhere between Anglo-Saxon and Modern English adjectives began not to agree in number. If I had said something to the effect of "we are both cops" then you would have a point. The word "human" can be either a noun or an adjective in this specific context, however.

Thank you. <bow>

 

[Topher]

lol, I don't claim to be the genius here. He is, Im just having a good time pointing out he is not perfect.

Btw, when did I claim to be a genius in this thread? (Yes, I have bragged about being smart elsewhere, but I was really trying very hard not to do so in this thread.)