nightmares....

[veryblueeyes]

Hello Watergirl... Thank you for your kind response.

I dreamed about my ex last night, as the reason I am up as this hour.

We need to work on things in the conscious to aleve the subconscious.

Noor,

I am working on the meditation thing.

Watergirl,

Noor has some really good advice.

Kisses to you.

Blue

 

[Avery_Chisholm]

I had one of those this mornin we were burying my cuz and she came back from the dead in the hearse and then my dad had bought one of those austin mini's asked me to park and wait i didn't listen parked it and got out and those damn ticket people cut off half my mirrors', and then 3 people proceeded to smashed into the car puttin it on 2 wheels all along i'm thinkin i'm going to have to go in and explain this

 

[potatohead]

Re: Re: Re: nightmares....

Thank you very much....

Unfortunately, at the time I awoke, the person was 3 timezones away and could not call...

I shall endure.

Oh hun, I'm only two time zones away LOL.

Just like Bombi I rarely ever remember my dreams, they're kind of like my gigs in a way...I only remember the really good and the really bad. Everything else turns into mush. My mom always says that she has vivid dreams and can remember every detail, in a way I'm jealous of that. She often dreams of her brother and her grandmother (both RIP) and has vivid dreams about them. In a way I guess it keeps their spirit alive.

I've noticed that there is a pattern of eating just before bed and having trouble sleeping and having bad dreams/mind activity. It's usually because I've had something with a strong kick like garlic bagel chips or ranch Doritios. I've switched to eating milder stuff at night like mozzarella sticks or making a ham & cheese wrap and it's helped tremendously.

Every so often I'll have the falling dream where I feel like I'm falling and I wake up clutching the bed for dear life, trying to catch my breath. I have much more vivid day dreams...usually of a car accident. I think I know what that's about and I can probably link it to a specific incident...

 

[potatohead]

Re: dreams

I had another dream about a friend who is in the midst of a divorce - in my dream, he deliberately set fire to a large mansion like home, because there was nothing in it he could salvage, it had all aged away to rotted or filthy tatters. In my dream, there was the most beautiful, sweet little blonde girl, maybe 4 or 5 or so, who was his daughter - he doesn't really have any kids... and she was so sad and wistful about her home being burned down - but she was ghostly...

*shakes head*

any thoughts on these? I'm attributing them to stress.

It's weird that both of your dreams have something to do with fire. I know that means something.

The house with nothing that could be salvaged is probably about a past or current relationship that's ending badly and isn't worth saving or maintaining. Sometimes it's better to rip the whole thing down and start again. I've been through that before in my life and I can see it on the horizon in the next year or two. Maybe not a total rebuild but something on the professional level...

The ghostly child is most likely a representation of the child that could've been had the relationship endured. Maybe she was sad because she knew what could've been...that could've been her existence. Wouldn't that make you sad? I know it would make me sad.

 

[captain snakebite]

Any of you good folks tried this one?

Next time you find yourself in a dream, make an effort to look at some part of your physical self - hands, feet, whatever. You'll probably find you can then (more or less) grab hold of the experience and be a participant rather than just being along for a ride in your own imagination.

It's not that easy but it can be done. You need to be in that 'I think I'm dreaming but I'm not entirely sure' area - something to do with your consciousness always being on tickover in the background I think.

It's pretty funky anyway.

 

[bigpimprob]

take sleeping pills..ambien. awesome...sleep thru the night, and feel good. drugs are not for all...just a suggustion..good luck

 

[veryblueeyes]

take sleeping pills..ambien. awesome...sleep thru the night, and feel good. drugs are not for all...just a suggustion..good luck

I took Ambien for a while, but they are really addictive. Plus, I woke up feeling weird the next day. OTC sleeping pills do nothing for me. I fall alseep and then I wake up from a dream a lot of times and just lie there. I even did that when on Ambien. Strange.

Thanks

blue

 

[veryblueeyes]

Any of you good folks tried this one?

Next time you find yourself in a dream, make an effort to look at some part of your physical self - hands, feet, whatever. You'll probably find you can then (more or less) grab hold of the experience and be a participant rather than just being along for a ride in your own imagination.

It's not that easy but it can be done. You need to be in that 'I think I'm dreaming but I'm not entirely sure' area - something to do with your consciousness always being on tickover in the background I think.

It's pretty funky anyway.

Thanks Captain. I have certain dreams that I know are a dream. It's almost like floating in between the real world and dream world. I had one of those last night. Kind of a feeling that I knew it was a dream and I could wake myself, yet could not. Though this was not a nightmare. Nightmares are harder for me to shake, as they are so REAL. Buried deep in the subconscious. Thanks for the advice.

Blue

 

[captain snakebite]

Very welcome Blue.

The post was sort of meant as a follow-on to Mistress K's words (1/16/2004) but I 4got to add the quote (damn!)

It is something many people can teach thanselves to do, and I guess it's probably helpful that you can distinguish between the 'cool, I'm dreaming' dreams and the 'how the hell did I get stuck in here' ones. Might be worth a try on the former, then with luck you might be able to grab the bad ones by the scruff of the neck and kick some subliminal ass.

Fingers crossed for ya.

 

[ABN_Ranger]

For about the past 8 years I've had constant nightmares. Same thing over and over again, the whole reliving a traumatic event. It got bad... really bad, to the point where Ang hadda sleep with the body pillow we got her when she was pregnant between us because I thrashed around so violently, I'de wake up and she'de have bruises or be all soar from me kicking around. If I was lucky, I'd get about 45 minutes of sleep a night. It all got about a hundred times worse when we sent troops into Afghanistan and then even worse when we went into Iraq. So along comes the intensive therapy once a week at the VA hospital and Ambien. I hate taking sleeping pills, hell it's a fight to get anything stronger than Motrin in me, but the Ambien worked. I still have the occasional nightmare, but not so often... or at least I sleep through them now... I guess you'de have to ask Ang about that. Anyway... that's my take on the nightmares. They're different for everyone, the way one person deals with them may or may not work for another. Good luck with them.

J

 

[DarkMuse]

I never used to remember my dreams. When I slept that was (I suffer from Insomnia). when I CAN sleep I'm so exhausted that I'm in deep sleep right away. Lately, I dream, then wake up, dream, then wake up, dream, then wake up. I maybe get 1 hour of sleep a night.

The dreams are never rational. I dream often of my ex. I also have weird dreams related to movies, stories, etc. My subconcious is terribly active lately.

I seem to hit deep sleep when I'm at my boyfriend's place, with him in bed beside me. I'm not sure why--maybe because I'm more at ease there?

 

[abandago62]

Some would clasify this as a night terror....

However, other may classify this as an alien abduction.

Abductions, night terrors, Out of Body Experiences, Near death experiences may all be very well related. Symptoms are simular.

>>"From the "Matrix".....
Morpheus
I can see it in your eyes. You have the look of a man
who accepts what he sees because he is expecting to
wake up. Ironically, this is not far from the truth. ........

it's there, like a splinter in your mind
driving you mad.

Like everyone else you
were born into bondage, born into a prison that you
cannot smell or taste or touch. A prison for your
mind.... <<<<

 

[veryblueeyes]

For about the past 8 years I've had constant nightmares. Same thing over and over again, the whole reliving a traumatic event. It got bad... really bad, to the point where Ang hadda sleep with the body pillow we got her when she was pregnant between us because I thrashed around so violently, I'de wake up and she'de have bruises or be all soar from me kicking around. If I was lucky, I'd get about 45 minutes of sleep a night. It all got about a hundred times worse when we sent troops into Afghanistan and then even worse when we went into Iraq. So along comes the intensive therapy once a week at the VA hospital and Ambien. I hate taking sleeping pills, hell it's a fight to get anything stronger than Motrin in me, but the Ambien worked. I still have the occasional nightmare, but not so often... or at least I sleep through them now... I guess you'de have to ask Ang about that. Anyway... that's my take on the nightmares. They're different for everyone, the way one person deals with them may or may not work for another. Good luck with them.

J

ABN... I know how you feel. I used to sleep screaming from my real life nightmares to the point my ex was pinning me down, trying to make me wake up. Be careful of Ambien. It is really addictive. My doctor only gave me one refill, as he said that you become dependent on it. Just my take...

I am glad that you are sleeping better and that your wife supported you through them.

Blue

 

[veryblueeyes]

I never used to remember my dreams. When I slept that was (I suffer from Insomnia). when I CAN sleep I'm so exhausted that I'm in deep sleep right away. Lately, I dream, then wake up, dream, then wake up, dream, then wake up. I maybe get 1 hour of sleep a night.

The dreams are never rational. I dream often of my ex. I also have weird dreams related to movies, stories, etc. My subconcious is terribly active lately.

I seem to hit deep sleep when I'm at my boyfriend's place, with him in bed beside me. I'm not sure why--maybe because I'm more at ease there?

I believe that is a sense of security for you to be at your boyfriends. Normally, and Noor, correct me, if I am wrong, dreams happen during REM sleep. Which means that you really do not awaken, it's a pause in sleep and you quickly enter REM again, which makes the dream continue or a new one happen. I think I am right on this, but I may be wrong.

Sincerely,

Blue

 

[CelticFrog]

ABN... I know how you feel. I used to sleep screaming from my real life nightmares to the point my ex was pinning me down, trying to make me wake up. Be careful of Ambien. It is really addictive. My doctor only gave me one refill, as he said that you become dependent on it. Just my take...

I am glad that you are sleeping better and that your wife supported you through them.

Blue

I used to have to do a lot more than just sleep with a pillow. I have HAD to kick my own husband in the groin to wake him up from a dream in which he started strangling that warm body in front of him, thinking it was the enemy. And other similar things.

J is good about not taking Ambien very often. Usually days when he feels himself having a rough time. The other therapy is helping too, making those Ambien nights fewer and farther between. They'll never be completely gone, and we will live with the PTSD every day, but I have an amazing husband that is willing to work HARD on that PTSD and heal to the best of his ability.

There is NO WAY I would ever not support this man. None. And at the risk of tooting my own horn, I can't imagine not being there for him every second. It's become imbedded in my entire being.

J is also very good about being wary of drugs in general, especially the ones that can create in a person dependency. Not to mention the fact that he HATES 'not being able to sleep light'.

Ang

 

[veryblueeyes]

Ang and ABN...

Wonderful people that you are. Ang... I cannot even show the amount of appreciation that I have for you. To deal with someone with Post Traumatic Stress, is very much hard and you are a trooper. ABN... I have found that going to yogo has helped me in my PTSD. It was suggested meditation, but I am finding yoga very releasing. I don't sleep very much, as you may see the hour in US time that I am posting... Though I am getting closer. One thing that I have found, also, is to tell a bedtime story of good things. Lovely things that you will hopefully dream out. It has worked a couple of times for me. Wishes both of you sweet dreams....

Sincerely

Blue

 

[kmac3323]

Thanks Captain. I have certain dreams that I know are a dream. It's almost like floating in between the real world and dream world. I had one of those last night. Kind of a feeling that I knew it was a dream and I could wake myself, yet could not. Though this was not a nightmare. Nightmares are harder for me to shake, as they are so REAL. Buried deep in the subconscious. Thanks for the advice.

Blue

Hello Blue:

The floating between awareness and dreams along with the inability to wake up is probably a disorder called sleep paralysis (SP). SP is usually accompanied by the sense that there is a looming presence nearby or an event that is just about to happen. This part of the disorder is called either hypnagogic or hypnopompic hallucinations.

SP is fairly common and some sleep experts say that most 'alien abductions' are actually SP/HH events. Out-of-body experiences and vivid dreams are commonly reported. These dreams can lead to the night terrors-and they are so much more intense than nightmares. You are partially concious and feel and believe them to be real. And the episodes can last for what seems to be a really long time. And you're unable to move throughout the dream.

I had SP/HH constantly for years and it was a living hell. The onset is almost always triggered by some stressful event or life-change. Or some unresovled trauma or conflict in some area of your life or personal relationships reaches a level that it intrudes into your sleep. PTSD, death of someone close to you, serious or chronic illness, etc all can be the trigger.

But the good news is that most people can reduce or eliminate them by learning and implementing certain techniques and practicing good "sleep hygiene". And reducing the stress that comes from the trigger situation.

My frequency was cut in half within a week of just learning what it was called and reading everything I could find on the subject. And knowing it's fairly common, treatable and that I wasn't going insane.

Google the phrase "sleep paralysis" and start reading a few sites that give an overview of the symptoms and treatments.

For starters NEVER sleep on your back. That is when these events are most likely to occur. I strapped a tennis ball to the waistband of my shorts for a while to keep from rolling over onto my back. Don't nap during the day.

I intended to just tell you to look it up on Google but once I get started....... Post back or PM me and I can give you a bunch of great sites to check out and lots more information about it---if you're interested in the ramblings of this n00b.

kmac

 

[phoenix1224]

Ok.. Just woke out of a dream. Sheets were soaked with sweat, I had chills and the thought of the nightmare was still there. I have these every now and again. I still can remember, with clarity, every bit of the dream. What does one do to relieve themselves of the dream? It follows me through the day.

And no... I am not pyscho. Just a bad dream that I cannot shake.

Do any of you have those type dreams? How do you shake them?

Blue

I couldn't tell you... I've been having the same recuring nightmare on occasion since I was six... I just fall right back to sleep... I've seemed to have gotten used to it... But, all my dreams are extremely vivid and weird...

 

[veryblueeyes]

Thanks.... for all responses. As I just woke out of one. Had to take a shower, as I was dripping in sweat. I came online to email my sister, as it is too late here to call...

 

[logan ross]

i as with most people had nightmares for years as a result of a abusive father until a friend introduced me to lucid dreaming.
it pretty much helps you control and take back your dreams. what i have done is create a character for myself and when something is going wrong in my dream i become this strong and powerful person and i take control of the situation and wake myself up.
i have even experienced out of body sensations while lucid dreaming. its now been years since i had anything close to a nightmare. and the character has become a part of me in everyday life.

 

[shy little fairy]

me dying

my worst dreams are about me dying young - being murdered or killed in a car crash, etc. all the pain i see of my family members leaves me waking up w/ an actual ache in my chest from sorrow (for those of you who have ever lost someone, etc, you know that the term broken-hearted probably came from the fact that you truly can feel a physical pain from grief).
sometimes my friends are there too, and this hurts me even more, especially when my best friend is at the funeral and i see how hurt she is.
the problem w/ some dreams, whether realistic pain, or monster-type nightmares, is that everything we think we know, comes from our brain. so when we wake up in the morning, and our brain is "remembering" what has happened - we believe it instantly, because, well, that's what we always do.

 

[GeorgeWBush]

Hi very.

I get them now and then most are were my brakes go out in my car i have put a hole in the wall trying to hit my brakes.

But some are about a loved one and the ones i dream about are dead and i think they are telling me they are watching over me a strange way of saying it.

My heart is pounding a mile a minute and it feels like it's going to burst.

Then there are some i do not remember after i wake.

I hope you can work them out so you can get a restful sleep.

 

[veryblueeyes]

Hi very.

I get them now and then most are were my brakes go out in my car i have put a hole in the wall trying to hit my brakes.

But some are about a loved one and the ones i dream about are dead and i think they are telling me they are watching over me a strange way of saying it.

My heart is pounding a mile a minute and it feels like it's going to burst.

Then there are some i do not remember after i wake.

I hope you can work them out so you can get a restful sleep.

GW... You are always so sweet to me. Great big hugs for you. My dreams are of traumatic events that happened to me and of my brother dying. For the events that happened to me, is the type that wake me up. For the dreams of my brother, I know I am dreaming, I know that he is gone, but my body doesn't let me wake up. It like I posted before, it's that in between sleep and awake. I am going to look up what kmac said, as I can't stand it. My troubles with sleeping, I believe stem from my nightmares. I would rather not sleep, or else my mind will not let me sleep, so that I don't have to deal with it, which lead to my insomnia.

Kisses


Logan... Lucid dreaming? Would you explain more. As some of you might have seen I have posted at very strange hours (I am in AZ). I would like to know more about it.

Blue

 

[potatohead]

Thanks.... for all responses. As I just woke out of one. Had to take a shower, as I was dripping in sweat. I came online to email my sister, as it is too late here to call...

You could've called me...I was just getting in bed

 

[thickspear]

hmmm....my good thoughts to those of you who are troubled by these dreams...i too have had vivid, troubling dreams such as car crashes and out of body experiences...they're very real and now many years later i still react to the fears when i pass some of the places i've dreamed about....

and though i've experienced these things they do not occur very often and when they do i can usually relate them to a particular stressful situation...

here's a question i have about creative dreaming....i'm able to create music, choreography, archetecture and more in very realistic ways which completely elude me in conscious life...

i often enjoy the space between waking and sleep just to experience the fascinating machinations of part of my mind that is otherwise unavailable to me...and...

on two seperate occaisions i have had the sense that something was amiss while awake...and i've made statements for which i had no rational explanations... but these two different statements (one prior to a plane crash, the other was someone who seemed healthy dropped dead of a heart attack the day after i observed him on tv and observed that he appeared to be on the verge of a heart attack, something i've never said before or after)...

so i guess what i'm asking is are your dreams portals into information you don't have while awake ?

i hope my musings and observations haven't hijacked this thread...

ts