Mr. Speaker! We Need To Get Back To Benghazi

[Que]

You appear to understand that there's NO SCANDAL here! What cover-up? What lies were said that led to the deaths of the four men?

OMFG talking points. Who the fuck cares? Is this the ENTIRE scandal? Sunday morning talking points were changed?

What's more scandalous: Colin Powell lied to the UN, parroting talking points that led TO deaths of thousands. That's a scandal!!!

The fact that you and 26% of the public are not scandalized by being lied to in such an egregious way, does not make it not a scandal.

It simply makes it a scandal that you personally have little interest in, and no stake in seeing it brought to light.

 

[RjThoughts]

So many posts here start that way, who exactly are you referencing?

People who don't agree with the bullshit "investigations"

 

[RjThoughts]

The fact that you and 26% of the public are not scandalized by being lied to in such an egregious way, does not make it not a scandal.

It simply makes it a scandal that you personally have little interest in, and no stake in seeing it brought to light.

Egregious is what Bush did!

 

[RjThoughts]

The fact that you and 26% of the public are not scandalized by being lied to in such an egregious way, does not make it not a scandal.

It simply makes it a scandal that you personally have little interest in, and no stake in seeing it brought to light.

Lied to -

I'm hitting 50 this summer, and I've been lied to and fucked over by EACH and EVERY PRESIDENT since 1981!

Reagan cost me thousands in tuition aid
George I taxed me after saying he wasn't going to
Bubba lied about a blowjob :O
GW lied to get into a war
Obama might have lied about talking points

 

[Que]

, when a White House email was released showing that a top Obama aide had suggested that an administration spokeswoman defend the president's policy regarding the Arab Spring and the Muslim world following a series of anti-American attacks that included the September 11, 2012, assault on the US diplomatic facility in Benghazi. As part of the interagency effort then underway to prep then-UN Ambassador Susan Rice for appearances on several Sunday morning talk shows—the exercise that produced the Benghazi talking points Republicans have been howling about ever since—Ben Rhodes, a deputy national security adviser, wrote that one goal for Rice was to "underscore that these protests are rooted in an Internet video, and not a broader failure of policy."

Mother Jones...ha! Why am I not surprised that you read that?

Shall I dig up some Alex Jones for 'balance'?

Look at how HARD the writer worked to set a frame to suggest that Rice was invited on those talk shows for ANY OTHER REASON than to explain to the public why an ambassador was assassinated in a terrorist attack on Benghazi.

No one cared about the hooligans in Cairo.

This wasn't spin to provide a favorable context, this was flat out replacing known, written intelligence with a false narrative strictly for political purposes using our UN ambassador as a spokesperson for the Obama Campaign.

If this was Carville grinnin' and spinnin' it would be fine.

It was given with the full weight of the State Department and the implied support of the full intelligence community. And it was a lie.

...and when it did not at all match the intelligence provided to Congress questions were asked.

So they lied to Congress about the lies on TV.

When caught lying to Congress, they lied about lying. They are STILL trying to pretend that the video had ANYTHING at all to do with Benghazi. That they were "forthcoming" in any of the hearings thus far.

 

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[dan_c00000]

Mother Jones...ha! Why am I not surprised that you read that?

Shall I dig up some Alex Jones for 'balance'?

Look at how HARD the writer worked to set a frame to suggest that Rice was invited on those talk shows for ANY OTHER REASON than to explain to the public why an ambassador was assassinated in a terrorist attack on Benghazi.

No one cared about the hooligans in Cairo.

This wasn't spin to provide a favorable context, this was flat out replacing known, written intelligence with a false narrative strictly for political purposes using our UN ambassador as a spokesperson for the Obama Campaign.

Favorable context say like fake WMD in Iraq? They never said it wasn't a terrorist attack they were talking about what caused the terrorist attack.

And it seems like you've got literally on evidence to refute that claim. Finally, it seems you're a bit mad at the guy who not only just took down your lack of Benghazi bullshit but also wrecked GOP hero Mitt Romney.

 

[jeninflorida]

just another obama lie and cover up. why should we expect anything else

after all, a clinton was involved and history has proven their dishonesty and criminal behavior

 

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[KingOrfeo]

From Salon:

Monday, May 19, 2014 07:45 AM EDT

Put Alan Grayson on Benghazi panel! Why he’s Dems’ best option to expose this clown show

Dems can't boycott Benghazi hearings -- so they should follow one writer's great idea: Let Alan Grayson ruin them

Heather Digby Parton

With the latest Benghazi! ™ extravaganza about to begin, the Democrats are faced with a dilemma. Should they boycott the silly hearings, thus leaving the Republicans to put on their pageant unimpeded, or should they join in with a full panel and add legitimacy to the process? The problem seems to be that whether they like it or not, these hearings are going to be covered. And if the press reaction so far tells us anything, they are looking for a show.

This is why they should follow the advice of Ari Rabin-Havt in the American Prospect who says that a boycott would be a “colossal error.” He points out the unfortunate reality:

Even with limited power, ceding the committee room to Republicans—not to mention the televised hearings—will only allow them to parade their Benghazi myths unimpeded by relevant facts framed in questions from the minority

Yes, one might expect that the media would be able to straighten out all the factual misrepresentations and downright lies, but considering the fact that even Lara Logan and the venerable “60 Minutes” imploding with a full-fledged hoax did little to put the story to bed, it’s highly unlikely that allowing the GOP to harangue and harass Hillary Clinton will put an end to this phony scandal.

In fact, it’s long past time the Democrats understood that they are not as successful as they think they are at letting the Republicans hang themselves. They seem to believe that because all their friends and wealthy donors think the GOP clown show is appalling that it always reads that way in the rest of the country. “Smell-test” scandal-mongering, where people begin to think there must be something to it or they couldn’t get away with spending all this time and money pursuing it, takes its toll.

Nobody in American politics has dealt with this phenomenon more than the Clintons. And the one thing they were known for back in the day, always, was to never let charges go unanswered. They understood very well that expecting the press and the people to see through such inanity and recognize it for the rank partisan hack job it is is a fool’s game.

Still, it doesn’t make a whole lot of sense to try to deal with a three-ring circus by convening an academic seminar. In order to perform their role properly, they need to engage the issue at hand with intelligence and a grasp of the facts but also an ability to guide the questioning in a way that illuminates the absurdity of the hearings as a whole. And yes, they need to provide easy sound bites for the media so they have something to run with.

Luckily, as Rabin-Havt points out, they have the perfect person right there in the Congress to do it: the original “congressman with guts,” Alan Grayson of Florida.

Perhaps people don’t realize that Alan Grayson isn’t just another lawyer/congressman. He’s an experienced litigator who fought whistle-blower fraud cases aimed at military contractors. The Wall Street Journal characterized him in 2006 as “waging a one-man war against contractor fraud in Iraq.” And he was very successful at it. As a politician Grayson is usually seen as a pugnacious fighter always at the ready with a pithy put-down on cable news shows. His floor speeches are often fiery indictments of his political opponents and the power elite.

But that’s not why the Democrats should tap him for the job. As notable as all those characteristics are, they are not where Grayson’s true talent lies. He is a master at the task of committee questioning. During his first term as a member of the Financial Services Committee he practically had bankers whimpering on the hot seat and he took on everyone from Ben Bernanke to Timothy Geithner, eliciting important information. Unlike the vaunted prosecutor the GOP has tapped to lead the inquiry, Trey Gowdy (who specializes in browbeating and histrionic questioning), Grayson is never rude and he isn’t dismissive or insulting. He is serious, composed and extremely well prepared. And when he has the floor he is completely in control.

And yes, choosing him would please the Democratic base and infuriate the Republicans. That should be a feature, not a bug. The Republicans want a show. Grayson will definitely give them one — but it won’t be the kind of show they’re looking for. He’ll elicit the kinds of responses from the Democratic witnesses that are needed to make their case and he’ll skewer the conservative scandal-mongers with the facts.

Rabin-Havt had originally suggested that Grayson simply be on the committee as a member, but he and other progressives, including Credo Mobile, are now suggesting that he should be the lone Democrat assigned. It would be an uncharacteristically bold and brilliant move for the House Democrats to do it.

Grayson says he’s game if they are. Will they have the guts that he has?

 

[KingOrfeo]

I'm surprised Bronzeage hasn't breathlessly rushed in here to spank your ass and tongue Hillary's.

Probably because everyone but you has quite reasonably put jen on iggy. Go thou and do likewise.

 

[IrezumiKiss]

Probably because everyone but you has quite reasonably put jen on iggy. Go thou and do likewise.

He can't. He's locked like that.

His former two top clutch nut-warmers are on their decline. Koalabitch, who used to be instantly chain-tug ubiquitous to ALL of Vette's brain farts, seems to be on a rotating DL and BusyShitstain is on the maglev fast track to becoming Literotica's Most Favorite Flameout…so homeboy's gotta appreciate all the bargain-basement sycophant loser support he can!

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_md3ukoOYpm1qa6g1m.gif

 

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[cjh]

Yep, he has all of the typical Democrat credentials, he's a liar, he's immoral, and he's a corrupted phony:


Rep. Grayson Lowers the Bar
The Florida Democrat manipulates video to make his opponent seem to urge wives to 'submit' to husbands. He didn't.
Posted on September 27, 2010

http://www.factcheck.org/2010/09/rep-grayson-lowers-the-bar/

Has he spread rumors about interracial bastard children yet?

 

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[Sean Renaud]

Yep, he has all of the typical Democrat credentials, he's a liar, he's immoral, and he's a corrupted phony:


Rep. Grayson Lowers the Bar
The Florida Democrat manipulates video to make his opponent seem to urge wives to 'submit' to husbands. He didn't.
Posted on September 27, 2010

http://www.factcheck.org/2010/09/rep-grayson-lowers-the-bar/

That is disgusting. Grayson should have told the truth. His opponent is an a la carte Christian picking and choosing what he wants and still seeking to force you to live by his morals. He's actually worse than those Taliban bastards in that respect.

 

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[Sean Renaud]

I have one trait the left on Lit hates. I'm my own man, and refuse to conform to the kinds of public weakness their political correctness demands. I am an American, I decide who when and why I will ignore somebody. I've never believed in, supported, or been affiliated with, the cowardly mob actions so popular on the left.

ROFL. No you just lack standards. Jen is a moron who never adds anything to a conversation. It's not weakness or political correctness it's sanity. You can build yourself up as much as you like about how you're being your own man but when you're afraid to do something because you might be recognized as part of a group you're still a sheep.

When the truth will suffice, a low class Democrat, having been genetically predisposed, will always advance a lie.

Low class democrats do stoop. (However the guy does want to impose his religious beliefs, he just doesn't believe entirely that women should submit.) It happens.

 

[IrezumiKiss]

I have one trait the left on Lit hates.

uhhh…just one?

I'm my own man, and refuse to conform to the kinds of public weakness their political correctness demands. I am an American, I decide who when and why I will ignore somebody.

http://media.tumblr.com/1f53a807524e32acff9c74d8b96b6e19/tumblr_inline_mlbn8a43rF1qz4rgp.gif

http://24.media.tumblr.com/e6bc158547186ed88bb9fe7a955ac3ea/tumblr_mhi49iZaIn1qzh1mco1_500.gif

http://i.imgur.com/Y88sPTY.gif

Oh Vette…you're such a man's man.

 

[Disgustipated]

I have one trait the left on Lit hates. I'm my own man, and refuse to conform to the kinds of public weakness their political correctness alldemands. I am an American, I decide who when and why I will ignore somebody. I've never believed in, supported, or been affiliated with, the cowardly mob actions so popular on the left.

You're a Fucking liar. You have admitted to being liberal once in your pathetic life. You just lost the final piece of credibility you ever had. Why do you think all the well informed smart people laugh at your sorry ass?

 

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[garbage can]

uhhh…just one?



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:

You're a Fucking liar. You have admitted to being liberal once in your pathetic life. You just lost the final piece of credibility you ever had. Why do you think all the well informed smart people laugh at your sorry ass?

I see the bobsey boys appear in tandem once again.

 

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[IrezumiKiss]

I see the bobsey boys appear in tandem once again.

Speaking of being a tandem bobsey boy, did Vette give you your customary kneepads now that you've supplanted Koala as his main jawn? I know your dental work is good for the job since you keep yap-yap-yapping away like you do...

Ahh yes Left Cheek and Right Cheek, ever notice how they speak with the same mouth? The tagger and the dope dealer both like to claim they speak for the "well informed" the measure of which turns out to be the most incompetent fool to ever claim the right to lead the great American people. What a bunch of stupid fuck ups.

"tagger…"

ha ha ha…ahhh, Vette…you're such a shitty scared little pre-color television-era white male.

Go drink some more nutmilk from the faucet that is BusyShitstain's penis as is your wont...he's much better and more direct at those precision racial insults without the weak coded lingo.

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[phrodeau]

Can vetteman make any posts that don't include a reference to buttocks?