Money and Sex

[jeninflorida]

We all enjoy (and possible love having) money and most of us love sex but can the two go together? Sex for money is taboo in today's American culture but in a round about way we all do it. The traditional romance model is that the man asks a woman out and pays for the date. So isn't that paying for sex in a way?

But that isn't my point about, my point is can a couple, or a man or woman be seduced by money? Movies like Indecent Proposal made it so freaking hot!

So, can fiction incorporate sex for money with out pissing off readers?

 

[estragon]

I guarantee you, anything you post will piss off one reader. And this holds true for every single one of the 50,000 or so writers who post on the internet sites. So go ahead and write what you want.

 

[litfan10]

What turns on some people will piss off others so you can never win. In the end write what you like and that will be more than good enough.

 

[PennLady]

But that isn't my point about, my point is can a couple, or a man or woman be seduced by money? Movies like Indecent Proposal made it so freaking hot!

So, can fiction incorporate sex for money with out pissing off readers?

I'd say yes, it can, with some reservations. First, as others have said, no matter what you write, you'll piss of someone. Second, it would depend on how you incorporate it. Third, it would (I would think) depend greatly on the characters and their motivations and reactions.

And while I don't think it would piss me off, I doubt I'd in general like it (just one example). Movies like Indecent Proposal (which I haven't seen and don't care to) do not make it look hot to me. They make it look like someone has to make a tough choice and someone will get hurt.

 

[jeninflorida]

I agree with what was said above and that its 100% impossible to please everyone and a story that's taboo or edgy will upset some people. I like the idea of of a couple that is seduced by an older, more established couple.

Normally, this would kind of irritate me as why would a wife do something like that but …

Is there anything more intoxicating then the seduction of wealth and power? Maybe this is a taboo because many feel that money buy's happiness?

 

[jeninflorida]

I'd say yes, it can, with some reservations. First, as others have said, no matter what you write, you'll piss of someone. Second, it would depend on how you incorporate it. Third, it would (I would think) depend greatly on the characters and their motivations and reactions.

And while I don't think it would piss me off, I doubt I'd in general like it (just one example). Movies like Indecent Proposal (which I haven't seen and don't care to) do not make it look hot to me. They make it look like someone has to make a tough choice and someone will get hurt.

that is the down side to a story like this...and a drama story like this someone does get hurt. maybe that's the point of some erotica, that its not erotica till someone gets hurt. okay that's more along the lines of BDSM and I totally stole that from my friend Tiffany.

IRL I know that money doesn't buy happiness, it might rent it for a couple hours but that's about it.

In today's time, I think the money thing would really connect with readers as this recession has been a killer and seems to be never ending. Still, I think most readers might hate a woman that succumbs to the money seduction

 

[TE999]

In trying to please everyone, you please no one.

Money talks, bullshit walks.

Words to live by.

 

[voluptuary_manque]

I have two stories up about the most reputable and most expensive brothel in the state. It's across from the state capitol building and has been passed down from mother to daughter for six generations. Grandma is the richest woman in the state!

And, for those who care, they scored rather well and I have received no unkind comments on either one. Yes, you can write about sex for money and have it well-received.

 

[jomar]

Jen, as a middle aged man I'm surprised you even ask this question.

 

[jeninflorida]

Jen, as a middle aged man I'm surprised you even ask this question.

Well I've started and stopped this story about ten times. Each time, get to this point and think, “girl, what the hell are you doing”

funny, as I'm talking to a character in my head but the characters actions are pissing me off and really irradiating me. However, its drama and every story needs drama and conflict.

Not sure why today, but riding my bike I realized that this is fiction and fictional characters do stuff like that. Stuff that one would never do in real life. Stuff that makes you ask, “What are you doing”

 

[voluptuary_manque]

Uh, people in RL frequently do stuff that makes a sensible individual ask, "WTF were you thinking . . . with??" That's why you have the Darwin Awards, America's Funniest Home Videos, Stupid Crooks, etc.

 

[jeninflorida]

Uh, people in RL frequently do stuff that makes a sensible individual ask, "WTF were you thinking . . . with??" That's why you have the Darwin Awards, America's Funniest Home Videos, Stupid Crooks, etc.

lol that is so true! thanks for the laugh

 

[RodenAddison]

We all enjoy (and possible love having) money and most of us love sex but can the two go together? Sex for money is taboo in today's American culture but in a round about way we all do it. The traditional romance model is that the man asks a woman out and pays for the date. So isn't that paying for sex in a way?

But that isn't my point about, my point is can a couple, or a man or woman be seduced by money? Movies like Indecent Proposal made it so freaking hot!

So, can fiction incorporate sex for money with out pissing off readers?

It's a story right? This is a culture where in a lot of places it's illegal to pay for sex, but you can buy a license and pay two people to have sex, film them and make money from it. Even more perlexing than trying to understand how people will feel is trying to understand the logic of govt. regulation.

There are people who live to be offended and to be pissed off - so let them. Don't take what they say to heart.

That said, I don't pay for sex, and nobody has offered to pay me. (Taking offers.)

 

[MaxSebastian]

I think it all depends how huge a sum of money it was on offer. A couple offered $100 million for example, for one night's adultery, might have to seriously think. I forget how much they were offered in Indecent Proposal.

I think that kind of choice could prove interesting, but you'd be best to find some kind of new twist to keep it fresh.

 

[voluptuary_manque]

It was one million.

 

[jeninflorida]

I think it all depends how huge a sum of money it was on offer. A couple offered $100 million for example, for one night's adultery, might have to seriously think. I forget how much they were offered in Indecent Proposal.

I think that kind of choice could prove interesting, but you'd be best to find some kind of new twist to keep it fresh.

wow! But is any person worth $100 million? Thanks for another idea though, very interesting.

Back to the topic, in the movie it was $1 million for 1 night. In my story, the couple is slowly seduced and haven't put in a dollar amount yet. I was just pissed at my character for having feelings and allowing the money to cloud her judgment...but this makes for a great story with the drama and bad choices

 

[Cruel2BKind]

I've always wanted to start a money-for-sex story. One where the boy eventually falls for his lonely older client. I actually had one in my head... But then it morphed into a gritty drama about a poverty-stricken family where the parents are dead and one of the boys is working two jobs to support them and has to go into prostitution just to pay some medical bills.

He eventually falls in love with one of the other rent boys, but he absolutely hates selling himself for money. So I guess anyone reading it will assume that I am very anti-sex worker.

I support legalized prostitution. That way it is safe, regulated, clean, and drug-free.

 

[voluptuary_manque]

After looking the movie up in Wikipedia, I'm not terribly impressed with the husband. He and his wife agree, she spends the night with the millionaire, they get the money and life should go on from there. But no, he gets all self-pitying and insecure. Is he a man or a mouse (hint: squeak, squeak)? People not thinking, that's what.

 

[Stella_Omega]

Well I've started and stopped this story about ten times. Each time, get to this point and think, “girl, what the hell are you doing”

funny, as I'm talking to a character in my head but the characters actions are pissing me off and really irradiating me. However, its drama and every story needs drama and conflict.

Not sure why today, but riding my bike I realized that this is fiction and fictional characters do stuff like that. Stuff that one would never do in real life. Stuff that makes you ask, “What are you doing”

Jen, you NEED to write the story.

Stop worrying about what the hell are you doing, -- or what the character is doing-- get it out there. Let her be an asshole, if that's what it takes. Get a draft written. Then you can maybe put that away, or find someone who can help you tweak it so it all works the way you want it to.

It sounds like that's what you're doing, am I right?

 

[RodenAddison]

Jen, you NEED to write the story.

Stop worrying about what the hell are you doing, -- or what the character is doing-- get it out there. Let her be an asshole, if that's what it takes. Get a draft written. Then you can maybe put that away, or find someone who can help you tweak it so it all works the way you want it to.

It sounds like that's what you're doing, am I right?

I agree completely. Nothing will free you to write more than getting that first story out there regardless. Don't take comments too seriously either (learned this, I'll probably learn it again).

 

[Boxlicker101]

I have two stories up about the most reputable and most expensive brothel in the state. It's across from the state capitol building and has been passed down from mother to daughter for six generations. Grandma is the richest woman in the state!

And, for those who care, they scored rather well and I have received no unkind comments on either one. Yes, you can write about sex for money and have it well-received.

I have written several stories about sex with prostitutes, including some in first person. I will probably write more, because I see nothing wrong with it. I mean I see nothing wrong with writing on the subject and I believe prostitution should be legal, but regulated.

 

[BTTap]

I'll echo the comments in re: no, you can't, and won't please everyone; you will piss people off, regardless of how it's handled; and, write it anyway, if you think it's hot.
Obviously, the basic premise could be handled all sorts of ways. I personally see nothing particularly erotic about prostitution, the mercenary pursuit of money that typifies most prostitute's attitudes, or the idea of being seduced by money.
That said, being seduced by a lifestyle, being drawn in to a tangled web of the super-rich and powerful, being carried away by the fantasy: that I get. If that is the sort of thing you are going for, I think it could be very good.
I've never understood the prostitution fantasy (particularly the street-whore fantasy). Maybe it's a very particular (and very female) fantasy.
Good luck.

 

[mynameisben]

Hell, I'd have sex with Julia Roberts for ten dollars. And if she had a coupon, I'd probably honor that, too.

 

[bashfullyshameless]

There are several stories close to this idea here on the site. I've read at least a couple that involve a husband in a corporate environment allowing/agreeing to have his wife sleep with one or many other people higher up his corporate chain in the hopes of a promotion. Sometimes the sex itself is written pretty well... but inevitably, the stories are rather emotionally brutal on the couple, and the people with the real money are generally complete cockbags.

To some extent, that last bit is realistic: if you're using your wealth to leverage your way into sleeping with married women, it may well be more about ego and exercising power than desire, and it's hard to look at that sympathetically. I can see how a married couple might be turned on yet nervous/troubled by one or both partners sleeping with other people, and again, when it's done for financial gain rather than "hey, we're just open and we have fun with it," that doesn't sound like a solid marriage.

On a personal level, I tend to find these stories disappointing. Promiscuity can be really hot, regardless of whether it's the guy or the woman. Emotional brutality, though, just doesn't really turn me on, and I'm totally turned off in any sex scene wherein I think one participant or another simply doesn't deserve to be getting laid.

None of that, by the way, means you shouldn't write your own; you'll have your own twists to it, your own tone, and you may well do it better by doing it your way. And there is demonstrably an audience for it. You will *absolutely* get comments--almost always anonymous--from readers who go apeshit anytime a female character gets to sleep with more than one guy in a given story regardless of the context for it, so just accept that and move on. There are plenty of other readers who don't have the same hang-up.

 

[desertslave]

Jen, you NEED to write the story.

Stop worrying about what the hell are you doing, -- or what the character is doing-- get it out there. Let her be an asshole, if that's what it takes. Get a draft written. Then you can maybe put that away, or find someone who can help you tweak it so it all works the way you want it to.

It sounds like that's what you're doing, am I right?

Stella is right. As long as it's unwritten it's going to annoy you. Get it written down so you have something to tweak. Set those theoretical characters free!