Moderators on the GB?

[Bluesboy2]

First, after several of us had our posts removed, LAurel created a statement that accounts would not be treated in that manner any longer.

I do not think Draah deliberately left the info up there to harm her. There are numerous explanations for this, I feel quite sure, than a deliberate lack of action because she wanted this woman harmed.

Was Draah informed in a credible manner and by the person involved that real life harm would come from the info being around?

Was she fully informed about what was going on - or was it some vague innuendo?

Lavy, you obviously did not read her and Bob's chat logs, where she CLEARLY states she did so deliberately to cause the person in question problems.

 

[Calamity Jane]

I figure that probably is true which is why I feel a new General Disscusion forum with a mod would be the best route. Those who just can't deal with the idea of a moderator can stay in the freeforall. Those who want a general discussion area with a security team on-call can take their discussions to it.

If it isn't done, the loss of long term users on the GB is still going to happen. The difference will be between if they are spending time on a different forum than the unregulated GB or if they are just gone.

The part I'm having a hard time wrapping my head around is that all of these people are requesting a mod, as if that would be a full-time, 24/7 gig.

But most mods have real lives. They have jobs. They have families. There's still a time-frame issue. And, if it's YOUR personal info, even 10 minutes is going to seem like forever while you're waiting to have it removed.

Also, several of the posters on this thread, claiming they want a moderator, are also bitching about the behavior of a MODERATOR. Does that not strike anyone else as silly?

A mod isn't a fix.

 

[honeylick]

Draah's deliberate lack of action did in fact cause REAL harm to a person who wanted thier personal info removed from the board.

deliberate lack of action?

as i understand, she was WORKING when the thread(s) [you are referring to] were posted.

mods aren't here 24/7.

you spend more time talking about how unsafe this place is, how unfair things are, and how you have been wronged.

you might want to think about another lit break.

 

[Queersetti]

I figure that probably is true which is why I feel a new General Disscusion forum with a mod would be the best route. Those who just can't deal with the idea of a moderator can stay in the freeforall. Those who want a general discussion area with a security team on-call can take their discussions to it.

If it isn't done, the loss of long term users on the GB is still going to happen. The difference will be between if they are spending time on a different forum than the unregulated GB or if they are just gone.

If you create a separate Moderated GB you might as well rename this board Troll Chat. So those who want unmoderated discussion will just be screwed. There wouldn't be much point in us hanging around Lit at all.

 

[lavender]

Lavy, you obviously did not read her and Bob's chat logs, where she CLEARLY states she did so deliberately to cause the person in question problems.

I read them.

That's not the content I read though.

 

[Bluesboy2]

I read them.

That's not the content I read though.

Re-read them.

 

[linuxgeek]

The part I'm having a hard time wrapping my head around is that all of these people are requesting a mod, as if that would be a full-time, 24/7 gig.

But most mods have real lives. They have jobs. They have families. There's still a time-frame issue. And, if it's YOUR personal info, even 10 minutes is going to seem like forever while you're waiting to have it removed.

Also, several of the posters on this thread, claiming they want a moderator, are also bitching about the behavior of a MODERATOR. Does that not strike anyone else as silly?

A mod isn't a fix.

Unfortunately, for the GB as it stands a mod or a platoon of them would likely not make a different. The main problem with the GB comes down to the attitudes of the people on it.

 

[Bluesboy2]

deliberate lack of action?

as i understand, she was WORKING when the thread(s) [you are referring to] were posted.

mods aren't here 24/7.

you spend more time talking about how unsafe this place is, how unfair things are, and how you have been wronged.

you might want to think about another lit break.

Nope she clearly states her deliberate intent in Bob's logs. No mistaking it.

 

[lavender]

Re-read them.

I read them three times at the time they were posted.

I came to these conclusions then.

 

[Calamity Jane]

If you create a separate Moderated GB you might as well rename this board Troll Chat. So those who want unmoderated discussion will just be screwed. There wouldn't be much point in us hanging around Lit at all.

Exactly.

I just cannot imagine whining to Laurel and Many that they should make Lit suit ME.

If you don't like it the way it is, find somewhere else to post. Seriously. We'll all be happier.

 

[lavender]

Nope she clearly states her deliberate intent in Bob's logs. No mistaking it.

Then quote us the exact paragraph or sentence. I don't save that kind of garbage on my computer.

 

[Never]

We want homeland security to protect us. What is the color level of fear around here?

azure

 

[Bluesboy2]

Then quote us the exact paragraph or sentence. I don't save that kind of garbage on my computer.

I do, but have no inclination to take the time to go find it.
Just because you don't recall it doesn't make it untrue.

 

[Mia62]

you are just a bit bent out of shape because you aren't privvy to people's conversations with 'draaah, laurel, et al. regarding any of the geebee's happenings... past, present or future.

bitter is your color snookums. you wear it -so- well.

Au contraire, I am totally happy with the fact that I have zero communication with alexandraaah. She is not one I desire to interact with in any form whatsoever.

 

[Queersetti]

The part I'm having a hard time wrapping my head around is that all of these people are requesting a mod, as if that would be a full-time, 24/7 gig.

But most mods have real lives. They have jobs. They have families. There's still a time-frame issue. And, if it's YOUR personal info, even 10 minutes is going to seem like forever while you're waiting to have it removed.

Also, several of the posters on this thread, claiming they want a moderator, are also bitching about the behavior of a MODERATOR. Does that not strike anyone else as silly?

A mod isn't a fix.

I also think it ought to be pointed out that anyone who takes a GB Moderator job might as well accept the fact that their posting career will effectively be over. Can you imagine how much shit a GB Mod will take every time they post? They couldn't dare to voice their opinion on any contentious subject or express a personal opinion about another poster.

So I would expect a high turnover. No one is going to give their time for long to mod a board on which they aren't welcome to post.

 

[Pookie]

I do, but have no inclination to take the time to go find it.
Just because you don't recall it doesn't make it untrue.

I don't recall it either.

 

[Queersetti]

Unfortunately, for the GB as it stands a mod or a platoon of them would likely not make a different. The main problem with the GB comes down to the attitudes of the people on it.

It would then follow that for a moderated GB to succeed, the moderators would have to police not just for rules violations, but for inappropriate attitudes.

 

[Calamity Jane]

I also think it ought to be pointed out that anyone who takes a GB Moderator job might as well accept the fact that their posting career will effectively be over. Can you imagine how much shit a GB Mod will take every time they post? They couldn't dare to voice their opinion on any contentious subject or express a personal opinion about another poster.

So I would expect a high turnover. No one is going to give their time for long to mod a board on which they aren't welcome to post.

This is true too. I've moderated chat rooms and forums. In both cases, it ruined the chatting/posting experience.

 

[Calamity Jane]

I do, but have no inclination to take the time to go find it.
Just because you don't recall it doesn't make it untrue.

LOL

"Take my word for it. Never mind that I clearly have an agenda."

Also, I think it should be pointed out that 'making someone's life difficult", if in fact that was said, is a far cry from "I know that this person is receiving death threats as a direct result of this information, and I refuse to remove the info anyway."

 

[Queersetti]

Exactly.

I just cannot imagine whining to Laurel and Many that they should make Lit suit ME.

If you don't like it the way it is, find somewhere else to post. Seriously. We'll all be happier.

The more I consider the situation, the closer I come to deciding that the creation of a separate modded GB would be a deal breaker for me.

 

[Calamity Jane]

The more I consider the situation, the closer I come to deciding that the creation of a separate modded GB would be a deal breaker for me.

Unless we called it PG-Lite. Then it would just be funny.

 

[linuxgeek]

If you create a separate Moderated GB you might as well rename this board Troll Chat. So those who want unmoderated discussion will just be screwed. There wouldn't be much point in us hanging around Lit at all.

I don't know... most of the people I am hearing say a mod is a bad idea for the GB seem to feel that just putting the trolls on ignore will keep them here.

The plan old little pissant, give me some attention 'cuase I have the maturity of a 12 year old troll doesn't bother me. They show up, I put them on ignore and go on my merry way. My main issue is the lack of enforcement of the guidelines which exist.

There are 11 rules and then a follow up statement that "Anything else goes". Doesn't make an exception for the GB. Either the rules need to be enforced and habitual violators dealt with, or the rules need to be thrown out.

 

[honeylick]

Au contraire, I am totally happy with the fact that I have zero communication with alexandraaah. She is not one I desire to interact with in any form whatsoever.

i did a rudimentary search on your posts vs. her name, since oct 1, '04.

you've either posted her name, or quoted her in 36 of your posts.

that's a lot of non-interaction.

 

[Midsummer Dream]

No, but I play one on literotica.com.

Darn, I was going to ask you to be my attorney--I needed a good attorney for a child custody case. I don't suppose the judge would be willing to hold it on the General Board of a porn site--so I guess I'm out of luck.

 

[linuxgeek]

It would then follow that for a moderated GB to succeed, the moderators would have to police not just for rules violations, but for inappropriate attitudes.

naaa.. people just need to stop proving the cynics are right.