Moderators on the GB?

Should the GB have Moderators?

  • Yes, but make them anonymous

    Votes: 28 18.8%
  • Yes, but show their names

    Votes: 34 22.8%
  • No

    Votes: 59 39.6%
  • No, I'd quit

    Votes: 12 8.1%
  • Learn to use the ignore button,

    Votes: 16 10.7%

  • Total voters
    149
Bluesboy2 said:
I misquoted you, but my point is the same. The rules are NOT enforced and it makes it an Unsafe place to post anymore.

Yes, your post could get buggered, maimed or killed in some of the threads around here!
 
Mia62 said:
It really shouldn't be that difficult to understand that some members here have no desire to ever let her into their lives based upon what she did to people here....just as some have no desire to befriend Killswitch et al.

Sometimes, I swear you're deliberately obtuse.

I didn't say I was having difficulty understanding why people don't want to interact with her anymore.

I was simply responding to YOUR assertion that you couldn't understand why people WOULD. Forgive me please, for answering to your comment.
 
Calamity Jane said:
I was simply responding to YOUR assertion that you couldn't understand why people WOULD. Forgive me please, for answering to your comment.

No, I am sorry I didn't realize that is what you were doing. It didn't come across that way especially as you took the opportunity to slam me just because I have a different opinion.

I understand that you are friends with her...I just don't think that others should be chastised for their choice regarding their feelings towards her.
 
Mia62 said:
No, I am sorry I didn't realize that is what you were doing. It didn't come across that way especially as you took the opportunity to slam me just because I have a different opinion.

I understand that you are friends with her...I just don't think that others should be chastised for their choice regarding their feelings towards her.

I wasn't slamming you. I'm truly sorry that you took it that way.

I was simply attempting to illustrate to you that sometimes, history does not a person make.
 
Guess I missed a few posts when I was off teaching....

1) moderated or unmoderated, either the Lit guidelines need to be enforced across all the forumss equally, or the guidelines need to be done away with. Rules which are not enforced are meaningless and a joke. I do find it amazing how much the thought of having a mod on the GB distresses some of the people. That for them, it is more acceptable to have the people they say they like talking to leave than to have a bit of order restored.

2) going off to one of the other forums does not suit me. I am interested in general discussion. Since the analogy fits and has been touched on a couple of time, at this point I am interested in a gated community version of the GB where I feel the guidelines will be enforced. If spending my time and effort at one of the existing forums is the only way I'll find that, so be it. I would prefer not to have my topics limited by the intent of the forum.
 
Lancecastor said:
You can't ban someone from an anonymous message board, you twits.

It's...not...possible.

So the rest of it is social contract...abiding by the rules is voluntary...and the only true sanctions are those of your peers.
This is true. Unfortunately, it is also impractical.

There are no sanctions against trolls/hackers/stalkers here. As many have said, there is no way to ban someone. They'll just create new identities.

It has been said over and over, the only way to deal with undesirables is to ignore them. Do not "take them on". Do not add fuel to their fire. Do not appease them. Attention is their crack cocaine. When will people learn?

That's right... Never [not Never the poster. Never as in not ever]

The community has to decide that if this kind of behavior is unacceptable to them, then they need to shun these individuals. Don't post to their threads. Don't acknowledge them. Stop perpetuating the behavior by joking about it.

This is not to say that you should ignore behavior that is against the rules [solution: report post to Moderator/Admin] You should not ignore behavior that is illegal [solution: report to ISP and police]
 
linuxgeek said:
Guess I missed a few posts when I was off teaching....

1) moderated or unmoderated, either the Lit guidelines need to be enforced across all the forumss equally, or the guidelines need to be done away with. Rules which are not enforced are meaningless and a joke. I do find it amazing how much the thought of having a mod on the GB distresses some of the people. That for them, it is more acceptable to have the people they say they like talking to leave than to have a bit of order restored.

2) going off to one of the other forums does not suit me. I am interested in general discussion. Since the analogy fits and has been touched on a couple of time, at this point I am interested in a gated community version of the GB where I feel the guidelines will be enforced. If spending my time and effort at one of the existing forums is the only way I'll find that, so be it. I would prefer not to have my topics limited by the intent of the forum.


Well put and thank you.
 
Eumenides said:
I don't get this. Instead of asking for a mod, why not just go to a moderated forum? Part of what I like about the GB is that it's not moderated. If you ware worried that you're going to be in more danger if there's not a mod, then go to a place on the net that has a mod. Don't restrict it for those of us who enjoy a modless board.

We want homeland security to protect us. What is the color level of fear around here?
 
Just would like to point out that neither Lit nor Draah were a direct cause of any harm that came upon a person outside of Lit.

Until you acn prove Lit or Draah had actual knowledge that any harm would come about from these actions and then failed to heed these warnings could they be considered to have caused harm to another person.

Nowhere have I seen any information that indicates this was the case.
 
Lancecastor said:
This is all a crock of shit.

You can't ban someone from an anonymous message board, you twits.

It's...not...possible.

So the rest of it is social contract...abiding by the rules is voluntary...and the only true sanctions are those of your peers.

In the most extreme case, no it isn't. But generally the everyday trolls and hotheads that threaten death aren't the most erudite computer personnel. Those can be dealt with, and those are the general ones that make the most nuisance.
 
linuxgeek said:
Guess I missed a few posts when I was off teaching....

1) moderated or unmoderated, either the Lit guidelines need to be enforced across all the forumss equally, or the guidelines need to be done away with. Rules which are not enforced are meaningless and a joke. I do find it amazing how much the thought of having a mod on the GB distresses some of the people. That for them, it is more acceptable to have the people they say they like talking to leave than to have a bit of order restored.


While I don't disagree that the rules need to be enforced, there is a flaw in your argument in regard to people leaving. And that is that, the day a moderator's name goes on the GB, a great many very good posters are going to log out for the last time. So, the "we need a mod to keep people from leaving" argument is a non-starter for me.
 
I think it should be left as it is. Unmoderated. I have no idea what Bob, MWG, Desiqn, Killswitch, Hanns and whoever else did. And honestly, I don't want to know. I just know that I need to keep my information to myself. No real name, location, gender etc.
I will remain a mystery to everyone.
 
CoolidgEffect said:
We want homeland security to protect us. What is the color level of fear around here?

These days, I figure the GB runs at an orange.
 
Mia62 said:
...what I don't get are all the people who treat draaah as though nothing happened.

you are just a bit bent out of shape because you aren't privvy to people's conversations with 'draaah, laurel, et al. regarding any of the geebee's happenings... past, present or future.

bitter is your color snookums. you wear it -so- well.
 
So Heretic...what makes you think that carving Lit in your graven image is any less reprehensible to me than anarchy is to you?
 
lavender said:
Just would like to point out that neither Lit nor Draah were a direct cause of any harm that came upon a person outside of Lit.

Until you acn prove Lit or Draah had actual knowledge that any harm would come about from these actions and then failed to heed these warnings could they be considered to have caused harm to another person.

Nowhere have I seen any information that indicates this was the case.

Draah's deliberate lack of action did in fact cause REAL harm to a person who wanted thier personal info removed from the board.
 
linuxgeek said:
These days, I figure the GB runs at an orange.

I'm eating an orange that's nearly big enough to hold all of the GB. Like a little planet.
 
lavender said:
Just would like to point out that neither Lit nor Draah were a direct cause of any harm that came upon a person outside of Lit.

Until you acn prove Lit or Draah had actual knowledge that any harm would come about from these actions and then failed to heed these warnings could they be considered to have caused harm to another person.

Nowhere have I seen any information that indicates this was the case.

Are you an attorney? If not, you should be. That was well said. Even if I have no idea what you are talking about.
 
Queersetti said:
While I don't disagree that the rules need to be enforced, there is a flaw in your argument in regard to people leaving. And that is that, the day a moderator's name goes on the GB, a great many very good posters are going to log out for the last time. So, the "we need a mod to keep people from leaving" argument is a non-starter for me.

I figure that probably is true which is why I feel a new General Disscusion forum with a mod would be the best route. Those who just can't deal with the idea of a moderator can stay in the freeforall. Those who want a general discussion area with a security team on-call can take their discussions to it.

If it isn't done, the loss of long term users on the GB is still going to happen. The difference will be between if they are spending time on a different forum than the unregulated GB or if they are just gone.
 
Bluesboy2 said:
Draah's deliberate lack of action did in fact cause REAL harm to a person who wanted thier personal info removed from the board.

First, after several of us had our posts removed, LAurel created a statement that accounts would not be treated in that manner any longer.

I do not think Draah deliberately left the info up there to harm her. There are numerous explanations for this, I feel quite sure, than a deliberate lack of action because she wanted this woman harmed.

Was Draah informed in a credible manner and by the person involved that real life harm would come from the info being around?

Was she fully informed about what was going on - or was it some vague innuendo?
 
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