Mind over body??

glorfindale39

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The mind or the body, what rules us? Obviously the answer is both, but the real question is what is the balance? In my younger days I choose to be celibate believing that my mastery over my body would enhance my mind. I don’t know if it did, but not focusing at all on sex certainly did free up a lot of time in college to study. ;) But now as I get older I have finally begun to explore my sexuality, and have found that the more you enable your own pleasure, the more you free you body from your mind. In other words the harder it is to control the impulses of your own body.

Think of this example. If you are in a monogamous relationship, and you are propositioned by someone you are attracted too, you under go a small battle within yourself. Do you stay faithful and listen to the rational thing your mind is telling you to do, or do you have sex listening to your hormones telling you to mate like bunnies. The thing that is interesting is the conflict. The thing that amuses me the most is the rationalization the human mind can try to come up with to fulfill the desires of the body. You know the little things you say to yourself: “Only once.” “It is human nature.” , or any other number of countless things that may allow you to win the battle over your own reason. I think fortunately most of us listen to our mind most of the time, and this really gets to the root of my question.

Some philosopher’s clam that it is mans ability to reason that makes us human. Others say we are just base animals like the rest of the birds and bee’s. I think it is the conflict between the physical animal side of our existence, and the ethereal mental side of our existence that makes the quintessentially human experience.

What do you think? Do you have any examples of how you have fought this type of battle within yourself and what it meant at the time?

G.
 
Not a single person has a comment on this? Come on, none of you have ever been in a situation where you felt conflict between your phyical desires and your mental responsibilities?

G.
 
I'm not sufficantly buzzed enough to get that philosophical at the moment. Perhaps tomorrow evening.
 
god...what a fucking awesome mind you have to go with that body. How the hell am I suppose to think when you are all stretched out there ready to be devoured?:p


I'll try.

I've never been in that position that you spoke of. Never had to choose should I be faithful or should I fuck him. I have internal rules...ethics...morals..whichever word you want to choose that helps guide me in making the right decisions. If I love my partner, that love would rise above all other feelings of temptation at that moment. I wouldn't hurt him for a few moments of selfish pleasure.

Or so I'd like to think, lol.:devil:
 
I have difficulty believing that no one has EVER had a situation where they were at odds with their heart and their mind.

In this instance most of it boils down to temptation I think. What is more desirable? To have your body's momentary pleasure appeased or your mind satisfied for a longer period of time. I can't say that I don't like having my body pleased because I do. However I find that which stimulates my mind to have a far greater affect on me.

I wouldn't be tempted to have an affair if I were in a monogamous relationship. I was in one for over 7 years and though I'd been propositioned by some lovelies, it was never worth the overall outcome. It never will be.

I had this situation in high school though which led to my not having any serious relationships for quite a while...it left the door open for such a moment to occur without any guilt, uncovering of secrets, or pain. Momentary pleasure was not as important to me. Even though I am not in a monogamous relationship I have other factors to consider before my body moves into action. My mind rules over this body.

(However a quickie now and then does seem quite the turn on)
 
You've really answered your own question. As for what I think, I found out that I wasn't strong enough to follow my head when I should have. I was in a situtation just like the one you presented. I'm not proud to say that I didn't listen to my head like I should have. I gave into my body and let it lead me to where it wanted me to go.

I learned just how easy it was for me to justify what I did. It caused me to look at myself in a very unflattering light and to try and figure out when I had become so weak and where my morals went. It wasn't the way that I was raised and it went against everything that I believed in. I still don't have the answers to any of those questions.

Take the right path, the one that you know in your head (and probably heart) is the way that you should go. As tempting as some things are, they usually aren't worth the end results.
 
Wow, posts from three of Lit’s absolutely loveliest ladies. I am honored.

First, JL you can post in my threads anytime, and please do! I understand what you are saying, but let me ask you this. You have never felt any moment of conflict between physical desire and your mind? Not even in this cyber world? Not even with all the men I’ve seen clamoring to be your sex slave? Besides the last line in your post says, “or so you’d like to think.” Does that not speak to the conflict.

C, I love this post, thank you for the feedback. In your post you say your mind rules over your body, but then right after that you say but a quickie now and then does seem quite the turn on. I can think of a better example of the conflict between mind and body. Even after such an emphatic statement you make another that speaks to the passions of your body. BTW, I think most of us are ruled by our minds, but we are never free of the influence of out bodies.

PT your right I probably did answer my own question, part of the problem being two damn introspective! Lol As for your post thanks for the insight. Is it not amazing that we can surrender to our passions, and yet still be haunted by our mind. One thing I know though, you are a wonderful lady and you should never look at yourself in an unflattering way.

Okay, now all this thinking has made me think of something else to explore.

What is seduction and how does this conflict play into it?

Think about it. It is the surrender of the mind to the mental and physical stimulation of another. It is the beak down of mental walls we use to steady ourselves, (ethics) and the stimulation of our physical drive to make it have more force over the mind.

G.
 
glorfindale39 said:
Not a single person has a comment on this? Come on, none of you have ever been in a situation where you felt conflict between your phyical desires and your mental responsibilities?

G.


Yes, I have been in that sort of situation before ... last weekend to be exact ...

Not to go into much detail , I did struggle about some of the actions I was doing that night and I kept asking myself if this was the " right " thing to do ... my mind was filled with doubts.

But then my physical side was enjoying it and going along to a certain degree... but then reality kicked in and that little voice in my head told me it was wrong and I stopped what I was doing ....


Do I make any sense ... I don't know.... Agh!:eek:
 
glorfindale39 said:
Wow, posts from three of Lit’s absolutely loveliest ladies. I am honored.

First, JL you can post in my threads anytime, and please do! I understand what you are saying, but let me ask you this. You have never felt any moment of conflict between physical desire and your mind? Not even in this cyber world? Not even with all the men I’ve seen clamoring to be your sex slave? Besides the last line in your post says, “or so you’d like to think.” Does that not speak to the conflict.

Okay, now all this thinking has made me think of something else to explore.

What is seduction and how does this conflict play into it?

Think about it. It is the surrender of the mind to the mental and physical stimulation of another. It is the beak down of mental walls we use to steady ourselves, (ethics) and the stimulation of our physical drive to make it have more force over the mind.

G.




G,
You're forcing me to be serious which is something I'm rarely am here on Lit. I wasn't necessarily saying I've never had any conflict between mind and body. I am human. But it's not been to the degree that I would leave my partner for the sake of fulflilling certain desires. As far as here in the cyber world where as you so eloquently put it I have "men clamoring to be my sex slave" (LMAO) it is all just here. On screen. With words...flirtations. I say words...men/women say them back. I smile. They smile. They go on to live their real lives, I go on to live mine. I've almost always been able to separate here from there, so to speak.

As far as seduction goes, each person is wired differently. What might appeal to another woman as seduction may appear as something else to me. Again, I can't honestly say I've ever been seduced unless I really wanted to be. Sometimes I think seduction is what I'm after more than just fucking. Seduction takes time. For someone to put time into me...to get to know me...I take that as a huge compliment and I begin to feel that pull.

Ok...now do I get to lick that bod?:p
 
Helllo G.

I think that it's perfectly acceptable and neccesary to go through all different phases in your sexual and relationship life.

When I was younger, I let my body rule my mind. I really didn't care about having a relationship, so I did whatever made me happy at the time.

Then I matured and wanted something more, and monogamous. In those relationships, there was never a doubt that I would be unfaithful. That's what made me/us happy then.

Now, I think I'm back to a stage where I don't want a relationship. I need time to myself, and to explore the things that I'd like to have in my next relationship. I don't know if that makes sense, I think what I'm saying is I'm going to try to know myself better, so that whatever relationships happen in the future, it will be satisfying to both my body and my mind.
 
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